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2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1721 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:23 pm

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Throw another name into the mix. SWC called this too I believe


He fits everything we look for: tough nosed defender, good athlete, very switchable and reportedly very hard worker. NBA ready frame too. He’s slipping a bit because his offensive path isnt that clear, but thats not really an issue on our team. If he’s still available around pick 10, I think we’ll trade up for him.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1722 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:58 pm

GoGreen wrote:All I can say is I'm bracing myself for a very boring draft day


Boring?? I think either great job Danny or Fire Da Bum is more likely. It should be anything but Boring IMO.

then again, if Danny trades all the picks, maybe you're right. :nonono:
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1723 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:02 pm

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Semi probably doubles him up. Just isn't into filming his shooting sessions.


I mentioned I was a shooter.. I can get hot in practice and drills. My high of 27 is something I Brag all the time about. BUT MY GAME Shooting was no where near as impressive. So I am always aware of "fool's GOLD"

But having said that, still impressive when combined with his Game footage. I said I wanted him at 26. But 1 he won't be there and 2, Ainge is rumored to trade all of our picks for a 31 YO with maybe only 1 year left on his contract.. soo .. :noway:
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1724 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:06 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Throw another name into the mix. SWC called this too I believe


He fits everything we look for: tough nosed defender, good athlete, very switchable and reportedly very hard worker. NBA ready frame too. He’s slipping a bit because his offensive path isnt that clear, but thats not really an issue on our team. If he’s still available around pick 10, I think we’ll trade up for him.


I do like Okoro. Never mentioned him in my top 4 wish list for 14 since I expect he would be gone.

BUT

If Danny trades all 3 picks for him, I am going into Sniper Mode!!
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1725 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:08 pm

OH and BTW only 4 more Days till the madness/draft
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1726 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:50 pm

playa-hater wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Throw another name into the mix. SWC called this too I believe


He fits everything we look for: tough nosed defender, good athlete, very switchable and reportedly very hard worker. NBA ready frame too. He’s slipping a bit because his offensive path isnt that clear, but thats not really an issue on our team. If he’s still available around pick 10, I think we’ll trade up for him.


I do like Okoro. Never mentioned him in my top 4 wish list for 14 since I expect he would be gone.

BUT

If Danny trades all 3 picks for him, I am going into Sniper Mode!!


Id rather him trade up and get the guy he wants than hear all year about how we just missed trading for him and now he’s a future stud
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Post#1727 » by JHTruth » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:13 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
He fits everything we look for: tough nosed defender, good athlete, very switchable and reportedly very hard worker. NBA ready frame too. He’s slipping a bit because his offensive path isnt that clear, but thats not really an issue on our team. If he’s still available around pick 10, I think we’ll trade up for him.


I do like Okoro. Never mentioned him in my top 4 wish list for 14 since I expect he would be gone.

BUT

If Danny trades all 3 picks for him, I am going into Sniper Mode!!


Id rather him trade up and get the guy he wants than hear all year about how we just missed trading for him and now he’s a future stud


Not high on Okoro at all. At some point you need guys you are pretty sure are going to be a bucket, not just defensive specialist after defensive specialist.
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Post#1728 » by yeleven11 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:23 pm

JHTruth wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
I do like Okoro. Never mentioned him in my top 4 wish list for 14 since I expect he would be gone.

BUT

If Danny trades all 3 picks for him, I am going into Sniper Mode!!


Id rather him trade up and get the guy he wants than hear all year about how we just missed trading for him and now he’s a future stud


Not high on Okoro at all. At some point you need guys you are pretty sure are going to be a bucket, not just defensive specialist after defensive specialist.


I think this narrative that Ainge only drafts defensive specialists needs to go.

Smart, Rozier, and Brown are not just defensive specialists. If you're talking about last year's draft, Langford and Grant are far from finished products and Langford especially has plenty of upside offensively. Robert Williams has problems defensively while being mostly fine on offense as a rim runner.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1729 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:36 pm

JHTruth wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
I do like Okoro. Never mentioned him in my top 4 wish list for 14 since I expect he would be gone.

BUT

If Danny trades all 3 picks for him, I am going into Sniper Mode!!


Id rather him trade up and get the guy he wants than hear all year about how we just missed trading for him and now he’s a future stud


Not high on Okoro at all. At some point you need guys you are pretty sure are going to be a bucket, not just defensive specialist after defensive specialist.


I think the Celtics roster structure affords them the luxury to take it slow and develop Okoro. On different teams, he’d be asked to do too much and he’d likely bust—think Culver on Minny. Here, we’d bring him along slowly a la Jaylen Brown. I think we stand better to actualize his potential.

Okoro can draw contact and flashed some shooting ability in high school/AAU. He needs time and we have the luxury to give it to him.
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Post#1730 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:11 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Id rather him trade up and get the guy he wants than hear all year about how we just missed trading for him and now he’s a future stud


Not high on Okoro at all. At some point you need guys you are pretty sure are going to be a bucket, not just defensive specialist after defensive specialist.


I think the Celtics roster structure affords them the luxury to take it slow and develop Okoro. On different teams, he’d be asked to do too much and he’d likely bust—think Culver on Minny. Here, we’d bring him along slowly a la Jaylen Brown. I think we stand better to actualize his potential.

Okoro can draw contact and flashed some shooting ability in high school/AAU. He needs time and we have the luxury to give it to him.


OK then let me play devil's advocate. How much better is O korero then Romeo Langford. Both seem to have the same type of positive assets but need to improve a lot to be a sure thing as a shoota. If we had a team full of shooters but no toughness then Okoro Would have a higher value in my opinion. And at the same time it's not about is a coral going to be a good prospect or not. But is l Okoro so much better than drafting. 3 good players like a sadiq Bay, a Daniel Oturu and and a Woodard type of talent..

Especially in a draft where players from 5 to 20 are not that far apart
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1731 » by playa-hater » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:12 pm

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Post#1732 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:35 pm

Yeah I get that Okoru looks like a great fit stylistically, but that’s because we’ve already got guys like him — where does he fit in terms of our lineup? Hayward replacement? I don’t like him more than S. Bey.

And damn Bane, 43 in a row is nuts. Anyone know (even unsubstantiated) claims of anyone ever making more?
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Post#1733 » by threrf23 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:47 pm

31to6 wrote:
And damn Bane, 43 in a row is nuts. Anyone know (even unsubstantiated) claims of anyone ever making more?










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Tyler Herro reportedly made 25 in a row at his workout with the Heat last year, and Nik Stauskas was once filmed hitting 46 in a row.
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Post#1734 » by Half-Full » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:50 pm

31to6 wrote:Yeah I get that Okoru looks like a great fit stylistically, but that’s because we’ve already got guys like him — where does he fit in terms of our lineup? Hayward replacement? I don’t like him more than S. Bey.

And damn Bane, 43 in a row is nuts. Anyone know (even unsubstantiated) claims of anyone ever making more?


The more I think about it the more I like the idea of going for Bane at #14. He ticks a lot of boxes, and he won't be there at #26. We need a shooter, and he clearly has that skill, but he also is solid in other areas. Good defender, good passer, a high motor, and high BBall IQ. A four-year player at TCU, he should be ready to step in and play right away.
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Post#1735 » by BostonCouchGM » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:53 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Throw another name into the mix. SWC called this too I believe


He fits everything we look for: tough nosed defender, good athlete, very switchable and reportedly very hard worker. NBA ready frame too. He’s slipping a bit because his offensive path isnt that clear, but thats not really an issue on our team. If he’s still available around pick 10, I think we’ll trade up for him.


6'4.5" SF who can't shoot. Literally the most irresistible prospect for Danny Ainge.
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Post#1736 » by rd26 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:05 pm

I got a chance to talk with Okoro's coach a while back. Obviously all coaches will be high on their kids but a few things stood out.

He said that by far his biggest problem offensively is that he isn't selfish enough. Had zero concerns about his ability to score.

Will miss him more in the locker room and gym than on the court.

Probably the most coachable kid he's ever had.

I'm an Auburn alum, so I'm obviously very biased here, but I certainly wouldn't mind the pick.
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Post#1737 » by yeleven11 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:06 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

Throw another name into the mix. SWC called this too I believe


He fits everything we look for: tough nosed defender, good athlete, very switchable and reportedly very hard worker. NBA ready frame too. He’s slipping a bit because his offensive path isnt that clear, but thats not really an issue on our team. If he’s still available around pick 10, I think we’ll trade up for him.


6'4.5" SF who can't shoot. Literally the most irresistible prospect for Danny Ainge.


Remember when Smart, Rozier, and Brown were all prospects who couldn't shoot?

3PT% this year

Smart 35%
Rozier 41%
Brown 38%

The FO cleary doesnt draft guys thinking they can't shoot. They draft guys who are seen as non-shooters but guys they have reasons to believe that can become better shooters in the nba.

This narrative seriously has to go.
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Post#1738 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:24 pm

Desmond Bane was born the same year as Jayson Tatum.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1739 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:38 pm

playa-hater wrote:
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Not high on Okoro at all. At some point you need guys you are pretty sure are going to be a bucket, not just defensive specialist after defensive specialist.


I think the Celtics roster structure affords them the luxury to take it slow and develop Okoro. On different teams, he’d be asked to do too much and he’d likely bust—think Culver on Minny. Here, we’d bring him along slowly a la Jaylen Brown. I think we stand better to actualize his potential.

Okoro can draw contact and flashed some shooting ability in high school/AAU. He needs time and we have the luxury to give it to him.


OK then let me play devil's advocate. How much better is O korero then Romeo Langford. Both seem to have the same type of positive assets but need to improve a lot to be a sure thing as a shoota. If we had a team full of shooters but no toughness then Okoro Would have a higher value in my opinion. And at the same time it's not about is a coral going to be a good prospect or not. But is l Okoro so much better than drafting. 3 good players like a sadiq Bay, a Daniel Oturu and and a Woodard type of talent..

Especially in a draft where players from 5 to 20 are not that far apart


Is Langford such a good prospect that we shouldnt draft BPA? Especially when he’s going to miss a big chunk of the year next season?

Okoro is a more versatile defender. Much better defender coming out of college. More physical. Theyre not all that different, but the goal is to get a hit out of one of them if we draft Okoro.

As to your question— thats up to Ainge. I want him to trade up and get his guy instead of playing the asset game and whining about how we almost got Herro. Im tired of getting rid of picks in the 20s before their rookie deals are up, just go and get your guy, value be damned.
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Post#1740 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:48 pm

threrf23 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
And damn Bane, 43 in a row is nuts. Anyone know (even unsubstantiated) claims of anyone ever making more?










eta

Tyler Herro reportedly made 25 in a row at his workout with the Heat last year, and Nik Stauskas was once filmed hitting 46 in a row.


Daayyyum thanks! And here I was impressed with Lamar Mundane hitting four, five, six shots in a row :(
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