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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1721 » by ddb » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:35 pm

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Fencer reregistered wrote:Uh, can Bjelica play center?

Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.


It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.
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Post#1722 » by Homerclease » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:42 pm

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Fencer reregistered wrote:Uh, can Bjelica play center?

Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.


It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

He’s light years better than Grant and Semi. Stretch 4 is what this team absolutely needs most. Tbh if he’s really on the block then the deal should’ve already been done
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Post#1723 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:46 pm

I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE
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Post#1724 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:48 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE


Is there a reason to think his play would be more successful here than it's been there?
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Post#1725 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:51 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE


Is there a reason to think his play would be more successful here than it's been there?

Celtics need a big body for the Embiid, Vucevic etc of the NBA world. Baynes makes $7.0 million with a year left on his contract. Knows the Celtics system.

Toronto could be ready to move vets at the deadline
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Post#1726 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:00 pm

What about Thaddeus Young? Usually when that idea is suggested, it's in the context of a ridiculous overpay. But suppose he could be had cheap?

This would be a TPE-splitting idea, as he makes $13.5 million with a partial guarantee next season.
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Post#1727 » by cl2117 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:34 pm

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cl2117 wrote:Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.


It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

He’s light years better than Grant and Semi. Stretch 4 is what this team absolutely needs most. Tbh if he’s really on the block then the deal should’ve already been done

Yeah it's about fit not talent. Same for Barnes, same for Whiteside.

None of them are great, but they do things we need. I'd send seconds for any of them and a first for all of them.

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Celts17Pride wrote:I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE


Is there a reason to think his play would be more successful here than it's been there?

Celtics need a big body for the Embiid, Vucevic etc of the NBA world. Baynes makes $7.0 million with a year left on his contract. Knows the Celtics system.

Toronto could be ready to move vets at the deadline


He looks cooked though. Totally unplayable:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/baynear01.html
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Post#1728 » by Scoonie » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:40 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:What about Thaddeus Young? Usually when that idea is suggested, it's in the context of a ridiculous overpay. But suppose he could be had cheap?

This would be a TPE-splitting idea, as he makes $13.5 million with a partial guarantee next season.


He's one of my Top 5 realistic TPE targets. He'd definitely be a big upgrade over Grant Williams at the 4.
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Post#1729 » by Scoonie » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:42 pm

A guy I'd really like to add is Maxi Kleber from the Mavericks. Don't think they had any intention of trading him, though.
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Post#1731 » by cl2117 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:55 pm

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Fencer reregistered wrote:What about Thaddeus Young? Usually when that idea is suggested, it's in the context of a ridiculous overpay. But suppose he could be had cheap?

This would be a TPE-splitting idea, as he makes $13.5 million with a partial guarantee next season.


He's one of my Top 5 realistic TPE targets. He'd definitely be a big upgrade over Grant Williams at the 4.

He doesn't stretch the floor at all, we already have too many guys clogging the lane in our front court. Don't think Thad fits for us.

I'd rather Temple or Valentine from the Bulls. Both fit into the Kanter $4.7m TPE and are wings that can shoot.
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Post#1732 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:01 pm

cl2117 wrote:
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Fencer reregistered wrote:What about Thaddeus Young? Usually when that idea is suggested, it's in the context of a ridiculous overpay. But suppose he could be had cheap?

This would be a TPE-splitting idea, as he makes $13.5 million with a partial guarantee next season.


He's one of my Top 5 realistic TPE targets. He'd definitely be a big upgrade over Grant Williams at the 4.

He doesn't stretch the floor at all, we already have too many guys clogging the lane in our front court. Don't think Thad fits for us.

I'd rather Temple or Valentine from the Bulls. Both fit into the Kanter $4.7m TPE and are wings that can shoot.


The past two seasons he stretched the floor about as much as Aron Baynes did. (Similar attempts, similar percentages.) Not enough for you from a PF (as opposed to a center, which Baynes is)?
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Post#1733 » by Scoonie » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:07 pm

cl2117 wrote:
Scoonie wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:What about Thaddeus Young? Usually when that idea is suggested, it's in the context of a ridiculous overpay. But suppose he could be had cheap?

This would be a TPE-splitting idea, as he makes $13.5 million with a partial guarantee next season.


He's one of my Top 5 realistic TPE targets. He'd definitely be a big upgrade over Grant Williams at the 4.

He doesn't stretch the floor at all, we already have too many guys clogging the lane in our front court. Don't think Thad fits for us.

I'd rather Temple or Valentine from the Bulls. Both fit into the Kanter $4.7m TPE and are wings that can shoot.


Young shot 35.6% from 3 PT last season and 34.9% the year before that. Not bad for a 4-man. His FG% is always very high as well, and he gives you proven scoring off the bench.

Again, not a top target, but a solid backup plan.
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Post#1734 » by cl2117 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:12 pm

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He's one of my Top 5 realistic TPE targets. He'd definitely be a big upgrade over Grant Williams at the 4.

He doesn't stretch the floor at all, we already have too many guys clogging the lane in our front court. Don't think Thad fits for us.

I'd rather Temple or Valentine from the Bulls. Both fit into the Kanter $4.7m TPE and are wings that can shoot.


The past two seasons he stretched the floor about as much as Aron Baynes did. (Similar attempts, similar percentages.) Not enough for you from a PF (as opposed to a center, which Baynes is)?

Scoonie wrote:Young shot 35.6% from 3 PT last season and 34.9% the year before that. Not bad for a 4-man. His FG% is always very high as well.

There are just better options. Cheaper too.

You don't want Young shooting 3's even if he was solid last year. He operates from the elbow and mid-range in general. Too many of our guys already live there. He'd be replacing the role Theis fills not Grant and Theis is better.

He got proposed as an option on the trade board and I looked into him and even he says he says he's not best out on the perimeter:

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/thad-young-back-his-bread-and-butter-and-bulls-are-benefitting

“I'll go out there and make some (3s) here and there, but that's not the bread and butter of how Thad Young plays,” Young said after the Bulls’ recent win over the Houston Rockets as he compared his usage this season against “camping out around the 3-point line” last season. “And that's not the bread and butter of what the Chicago Bulls need from me.”


Think that all holds true for the Celtics as well. I just don't see him moving the needle for us.
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Post#1735 » by Wes-J » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:14 pm

We got the TPE. Now everybody sans Tatum, Brown, Smart, Pritchard, and Timelord should be made available. That's our core for multiple championship runs.

Let's get those vets now.
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Post#1736 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:15 pm

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cl2117 wrote:
Scoonie wrote:
He's one of my Top 5 realistic TPE targets. He'd definitely be a big upgrade over Grant Williams at the 4.

He doesn't stretch the floor at all, we already have too many guys clogging the lane in our front court. Don't think Thad fits for us.

I'd rather Temple or Valentine from the Bulls. Both fit into the Kanter $4.7m TPE and are wings that can shoot.


Young shot 35.6% from 3 PT last season and 34.9% the year before that. Not bad for a 4-man. His FG% is always very high as well, and he gives you proven scoring off the bench.

Again, not a top target, but a solid backup plan.


Low volume, however, so I'm guessing they were mainly very-wide-open.
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Post#1737 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:16 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE


Is there a reason to think his play would be more successful here than it's been there?

Celtics need a big body for the Embiid, Vucevic etc of the NBA world. Baynes makes $7.0 million with a year left on his contract. Knows the Celtics system.

Toronto could be ready to move vets at the deadline


I would do Teague and a 2nd rounder for Baynes? Or the Kanter TPE, waive Teague and a 2nd rounder for Baynes?
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Post#1738 » by Scoonie » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:18 pm

I have no desire to get Baynes back. He has been bad for Toronto this year.
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Post#1739 » by cl2117 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:22 pm

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Is there a reason to think his play would be more successful here than it's been there?

Celtics need a big body for the Embiid, Vucevic etc of the NBA world. Baynes makes $7.0 million with a year left on his contract. Knows the Celtics system.

Toronto could be ready to move vets at the deadline


I would do Teague and a 2nd rounder for Baynes? Or the Kanter TPE, waive Teague and a 2nd rounder for Baynes?

He's at $7m so it'd have to be part of Hayward TPE, which is a non-starter for me.

Hassan Whiteside is my binkie. I'd settle for Javale McGee. Both should be available for a 2nd and a warm body. Whiteside fits into our smallest TPE from Poirer and Mcgee into the Kanter TPE.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1740 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:42 pm

ddb wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:Uh, can Bjelica play center?

Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.


It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.


Given the reaction to Thompson, the board will be hating on Bjelica within a few weeks

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