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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1721 » by Hal14 » Fri May 23, 2025 1:22 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Anyone have a list of guys the Celtics have worked out?

Only 4 players so far are listed here:
https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-working-out/
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1722 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri May 23, 2025 1:52 pm

Hal14 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Anyone have a list of guys the Celtics have worked out?

Only 4 players so far are listed here:
https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-working-out/

Nobody has been added to the list since the Celtics interviewed Cooper Flagg. Clearly they have made their decision already :wink:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1723 » by djFan71 » Fri May 23, 2025 2:34 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Anyone have a list of guys the Celtics have worked out?

Only 4 players so far are listed here:
https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-working-out/

Nobody has been added to the list since the Celtics interviewed Cooper Flagg. Clearly they have made their decision already :wink:

Seems premature, but trust in Brad I guess.
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Post#1724 » by 165bows » Fri May 23, 2025 3:19 pm

djFan71 wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:

Nobody has been added to the list since the Celtics interviewed Cooper Flagg. Clearly they have made their decision already :wink:

Seems premature, but trust in Brad I guess.

Keeping it close to the vest this year looks like. I feel like they have a few guys they like in this draft based on Brad's interview. He usually does this but dropped a hint about moving back or up either way, and also said they have their list of guys but being that far back they really don't know who will be available.

Also subtly made a big deal about having "plenty of time" to evaluate guys, not even contrasting to last year, but the implication was pretty clear. Wonder if they relied on drafting Scheierman as they had done a lot of work on him from the year before and didn't have to rely on a first draft workout/interview the day after their title all hung over.

Also starting to feel like the get a jump on the cost savings by moving Hauser at the draft before his contract jumps up. Could see a lot of teams in the second half of the draft that would work for, eg Houston (trade back with BRK for more picks then trade those), Orlando at 16 and MIN at 17 make a lot of sense depending on their $ situation.
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Post#1725 » by djFan71 » Fri May 23, 2025 6:40 pm

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Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Nobody has been added to the list since the Celtics interviewed Cooper Flagg. Clearly they have made their decision already :wink:

Seems premature, but trust in Brad I guess.

Keeping it close to the vest this year looks like. I feel like they have a few guys they like in this draft based on Brad's interview. He usually does this but dropped a hint about moving back or up either way, and also said they have their list of guys but being that far back they really don't know who will be available.

Also subtly made a big deal about having "plenty of time" to evaluate guys, not even contrasting to last year, but the implication was pretty clear. Wonder if they relied on drafting Scheierman as they had done a lot of work on him from the year before and didn't have to rely on a first draft workout/interview the day after their title all hung over.

Also starting to feel like the get a jump on the cost savings by moving Hauser at the draft before his contract jumps up. Could see a lot of teams in the second half of the draft that would work for, eg Houston (trade back with BRK for more picks then trade those), Orlando at 16 and MIN at 17 make a lot of sense depending on their $ situation.

The move up quote is interesting for sure. I’ve thought hauser was gone from day 1. Everyone healthy,lessen the tax a little but go for the 3peat. Disaster timeline, get some seconds amongst the other moves.

Btw, I still like 22 for 28 and Huaser for the Hawks and us. They already have 13 for their big get. Then acquire someone who already knows how to play just by moving back 6 slots. Seems like a no brainer. On our end, save money and move up.
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Post#1726 » by Hal14 » Fri May 23, 2025 7:18 pm

djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Seems premature, but trust in Brad I guess.

Keeping it close to the vest this year looks like. I feel like they have a few guys they like in this draft based on Brad's interview. He usually does this but dropped a hint about moving back or up either way, and also said they have their list of guys but being that far back they really don't know who will be available.

Also subtly made a big deal about having "plenty of time" to evaluate guys, not even contrasting to last year, but the implication was pretty clear. Wonder if they relied on drafting Scheierman as they had done a lot of work on him from the year before and didn't have to rely on a first draft workout/interview the day after their title all hung over.

Also starting to feel like the get a jump on the cost savings by moving Hauser at the draft before his contract jumps up. Could see a lot of teams in the second half of the draft that would work for, eg Houston (trade back with BRK for more picks then trade those), Orlando at 16 and MIN at 17 make a lot of sense depending on their $ situation.

The move up quote is interesting for sure. I’ve thought hauser was gone from day 1. Everyone healthy,lessen the tax a little but go for the 3peat. Disaster timeline, get some seconds amongst the other moves.

Btw, I still like 22 for 28 and Huaser for the Hawks and us. They already have 13 for their big get. Then acquire someone who already knows how to play just by moving back 6 slots. Seems like a no brainer. On our end, save money and move up.

Maybe..

But I would hope that Sam Hauser, one of the best shooters in the league..in his prime. On a team friendly contract that has a few more years on it, I would think that could net us a better return than just moving up from 28 to 22.

Orlando has pick 16. There was some articles after they got eliminated by us saying they are officially entering win-now mode and are looking to aggressively take that next step as a team with some moves this offseason. So I wouldn't be surprised if they move that 16th pick, to to get a win-now piece..and they desperately need shooting.

Perhaps Hauser can get us moved up from 28 to 16..

16 could possibly get us Asa Newell, who could end up being our C of the future (but can also play some at the 4 if he's out there with someone like Kornet, Queta, Al..)
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Post#1727 » by djFan71 » Fri May 23, 2025 8:41 pm

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165bows wrote:Keeping it close to the vest this year looks like. I feel like they have a few guys they like in this draft based on Brad's interview. He usually does this but dropped a hint about moving back or up either way, and also said they have their list of guys but being that far back they really don't know who will be available.

Also subtly made a big deal about having "plenty of time" to evaluate guys, not even contrasting to last year, but the implication was pretty clear. Wonder if they relied on drafting Scheierman as they had done a lot of work on him from the year before and didn't have to rely on a first draft workout/interview the day after their title all hung over.

Also starting to feel like the get a jump on the cost savings by moving Hauser at the draft before his contract jumps up. Could see a lot of teams in the second half of the draft that would work for, eg Houston (trade back with BRK for more picks then trade those), Orlando at 16 and MIN at 17 make a lot of sense depending on their $ situation.

The move up quote is interesting for sure. I’ve thought hauser was gone from day 1. Everyone healthy,lessen the tax a little but go for the 3peat. Disaster timeline, get some seconds amongst the other moves.

Btw, I still like 22 for 28 and Huaser for the Hawks and us. They already have 13 for their big get. Then acquire someone who already knows how to play just by moving back 6 slots. Seems like a no brainer. On our end, save money and move up.

Maybe..

But I would hope that Sam Hauser, one of the best shooters in the league..in his prime. On a team friendly contract that has a few more years on it, I would think that could net us a better return than just moving up from 28 to 22.

Orlando has pick 16. There was some articles after they got eliminated by us saying they are officially entering win-now mode and are looking to aggressively take that next step as a team with some moves this offseason. So I wouldn't be surprised if they move that 16th pick, to to get a win-now piece..and they desperately need shooting.

Perhaps Hauser can get us moved up from 28 to 16..

16 could possibly get us Asa Newell, who could end up being our C of the future (but can also play some at the 4 if he's out there with someone like Kornet, Queta, Al..)

I’m all for getting higher, but you have Hauser value PLUS shedding $10M value. ORL can’t offer that 2nd piece since they have their own money problems. I haven’t looked in a while, but when I did I thought ATl made the most sense of teams 1) above us in the draft, 2) trying to win, 3) usable exception that wouldn’t screw them financially.

Would live Newell, though. Possible he or Rasheer are there at 22.
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Post#1728 » by playa-hater » Sat May 24, 2025 2:05 am

Hoopshype latest Mock has Boston getting Yaxel and Raynaud. I would be so pumped.
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Post#1729 » by 165bows » Sat May 24, 2025 1:52 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
165bows wrote:I think if they keep a first rounder Coward is the guy they roll the dice on. They love long wings (think eg Delano Banton) and this guy seems a tad weak in the play making dept but he can actually shoot.

Also I’ve come back around on Alex Condon. Wasn’t sure I loved him with a high pick since sometimes these title winners get a little too much helium or whatever but as a consensus second rounder I’m in on that.

https://www.rookiescale.com/2025-consensus-board/

And obviously Sion James in green is a destined match, plus a couple of udfa bigs are Dylan Cardwell and Viktor Lakhin that I’ve mentioned.

Coward will be long gone by the time the Celtics pick.


Yeah prob is long gone without moving up. Consensus mock I linked has him at 31 but he’s prob not lasting that long.
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Post#1730 » by Hal14 » Sat May 24, 2025 2:33 pm

playa-hater wrote:Hoopshype latest Mock has Boston getting Yaxel and Raynaud. I would be so pumped.

I'm down with getting 1 of them. But idk about both..seems a bit redundant.

There's some differences with them but they're both essentially bigs. Raynaud more of a pure 5, Yaxel more of a PF/small ball 5, but still a bit of overlap positionally.
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Post#1731 » by playa-hater » Sat May 24, 2025 3:37 pm

Ok so my rule is, If at least 10 people on here say they like a player, in this case Coward, I'll buy in.. :D

Don't shoot me on this, but I see a shorter Len Bias in his game :o :nod:
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Post#1732 » by playa-hater » Sat May 24, 2025 3:40 pm

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Hoopshype latest Mock has Boston getting Yaxel and Raynaud. I would be so pumped.

I'm down with getting 1 of them. But idk about both..seems a bit redundant.

There's some differences with them but they're both essentially bigs. Raynaud more of a pure 5, Yaxel more of a PF/small ball 5, but still a bit of overlap positionally.


You sir are not wrong, and of course much depends on who is available. But both short term and long term Boston will need a legit 5 man and a 4 man. Feel both can be that while having the type of intangibles and skill set to play well together.
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Post#1733 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat May 24, 2025 4:02 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Hoopshype latest Mock has Boston getting Yaxel and Raynaud. I would be so pumped.

I'm down with getting 1 of them. But idk about both..seems a bit redundant.

There's some differences with them but they're both essentially bigs. Raynaud more of a pure 5, Yaxel more of a PF/small ball 5, but still a bit of overlap positionally.

The best teams in the league are playing a lot more double bigs lately so I don't think taking two bigs with different skill sets is a deal breaker. If anything, it's leaning into the current trend of the NBA.
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Post#1734 » by Gant » Sat May 24, 2025 4:08 pm

This is a non-issue. Teams rank prospects by tiers. Positional need is a tie breaker.

Draft for talent. Trade for need.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1735 » by Celts17Pride » Sat May 24, 2025 5:44 pm

Hal14 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Anyone have a list of guys the Celtics have worked out?

Only 4 players so far are listed here:
https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-working-out/

That’s Ok, I want the Celtics to draft Javon Small :lol:
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Post#1736 » by Celts17Pride » Sat May 24, 2025 5:46 pm

playa-hater wrote:Hoopshype latest Mock has Boston getting Yaxel and Raynaud. I would be so pumped.

That would not be bad, then get back in the draft and get Javon Small. Sleeper, whoever gets him is going to be real happy.
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Post#1737 » by playa-hater » Sat May 24, 2025 6:55 pm

I am kind of torn between Sion James and what he can bring to the table vs Jevon Small. Both players have things Boston can use. And I have them at a similar Tier.
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Post#1738 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat May 24, 2025 11:47 pm

Some non-lottery guys that performed/are performing well this playoffs: Powell, Siakam, Robinson, Nembhard, Hart, Jokic, Draymond, White, Brunson, Caruso, etc.
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Post#1739 » by winsomme2 » Sun May 25, 2025 12:07 am

Just saw a report on here from Johnathon Givony that Cedric Coward is staying in the draft. Good news for the Cs.
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Post#1740 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sun May 25, 2025 1:02 am

If Coward is staying in the Draft, he'll be long gone before the Celtics pick... It's time for Stevens to actually trade up in the draft
and acquire someone, like the SloMo Kawhi, who can contribute next season and into the future...

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