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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1741 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:24 pm

I wouldn't mind liberating Davion Mitchell.
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Post#1742 » by Half-Full » Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:31 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I wouldn't mind liberating Davion Mitchell.


Me too. I think they would rightly ask for more than we would be willing to give.
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Post#1743 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:57 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:I wouldn't mind liberating Davion Mitchell.


Me too. I think they would rightly ask for more than we would be willing to give.


Or we might not be willing to give enough.
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Post#1744 » by Half-Full » Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:50 pm

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Half-Full wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:I wouldn't mind liberating Davion Mitchell.


Me too. I think they would rightly ask for more than we would be willing to give.


Or we might not be willing to give enough.


It's the same thing, isn't it, or am I missing some distinction?
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Post#1745 » by playa-hater » Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:03 pm

Half-Full wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Half-Full wrote:

Me too. I think they would rightly ask for more than we would be willing to give.


Or we might not be willing to give enough.


It's the same thing, isn't it, or am I missing some distinction?


the "use small sample sizes as proof a player can't shoot crowd" on here would have a field day with his 28% 3 point pct..

Either way I am out on any PGs that are more scorers than facilitators. That holds true for D Fox as well. Keeping Tatum and Brown happy and in rhythm is a hard enough challenge.
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Post#1746 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:12 pm

Half-Full wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Half-Full wrote:

Me too. I think they would rightly ask for more than we would be willing to give.


Or we might not be willing to give enough.


It's the same thing, isn't it, or am I missing some distinction?


Basically, but it's 'Boston wants to underpay' v. 'Sacramento wants Boston to overpay'..
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Post#1747 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:14 pm

wouldn't mind Mitchell either, but no idea what kind of three-teamer would get him - we don't match up well for a trade with SAC. And Haliburton obviously. Really like the idea of getting Talen Horton-Tucker from LA too (for Schroeder?), but they probably don't give up on him and he's got a much higher bust risk.
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Post#1748 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:14 pm

Schroeder for Coby White still makes sense to me, unless CHI pulls off a bigger deal. But he's down to like a 20 percent chance of living up to his potential.
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Post#1749 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:12 pm

It makes sense for Boston.

All of the contenders are set at point guard and most of the other teams are grooming young guys. I expect Schroder to be here until the end of year, dribbling the air out of the ball, unless he is included in a large deal for salary matching purposes or if there is an unexpected injury and no other backup is available.
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Post#1750 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:23 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:It makes sense for Boston.

All of the contenders are set at point guard and most of the other teams are grooming young guys. I expect Schroder to be here until the end of year, dribbling the air out of the ball, unless he is included in a large deal for salary matching purposes or if there is an unexpected injury and no other backup is available.

Yeah. I think Schröder will be here at Season's End. And potentially into next year.
I'm not too high on bringing in another established All-Star PG.

We've seen what Dennis can do. Unless something far better materializing.
With Pritchard in the Wings and on our 2nd Unit.

Smart, should remain our "Wild Card".
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Post#1751 » by Jaqua92 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:15 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:It makes sense for Boston.

All of the contenders are set at point guard and most of the other teams are grooming young guys. I expect Schroder to be here until the end of year, dribbling the air out of the ball, unless he is included in a large deal for salary matching purposes or if there is an unexpected injury and no other backup is available.

Yeah. I think Schröder will be here at Season's End. And potentially into next year.
I'm not too high on bringing in another established All-Star PG.

We've seen what Dennis can do. Unless something far better materializing.
With Pritchard in the Wings and on our 2nd Unit.

Smart, should remain our "Wild Card".
Schroeder and Smart for the future?

What a disappointing reality that would be.

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Post#1752 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:11 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:It makes sense for Boston.

All of the contenders are set at point guard and most of the other teams are grooming young guys. I expect Schroder to be here until the end of year, dribbling the air out of the ball, unless he is included in a large deal for salary matching purposes or if there is an unexpected injury and no other backup is available.

Yeah. I think Schröder will be here at Season's End. And potentially into next year.
I'm not too high on bringing in another established All-Star PG.

We've seen what Dennis can do. Unless something far better materializing.
With Pritchard in the Wings and on our 2nd Unit.

Smart, should remain our "Wild Card".
Schroeder and Smart for the future?

What a disappointing reality that would be.

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Post#1753 » by playa-hater » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:26 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:It makes sense for Boston.

All of the contenders are set at point guard and most of the other teams are grooming young guys. I expect Schroder to be here until the end of year, dribbling the air out of the ball, unless he is included in a large deal for salary matching purposes or if there is an unexpected injury and no other backup is available.

Yeah. I think Schröder will be here at Season's End. And potentially into next year.
I'm not too high on bringing in another established All-Star PG.

We've seen what Dennis can do. Unless something far better materializing.
With Pritchard in the Wings and on our 2nd Unit.

Smart, should remain our "Wild Card".


:D which is why most of us want him gone..

OK to be more serious, he has scoring ability and can get into the lane for sure.. But I just don't like his fit with everything Boston has. We are a team with too many need the ball type of players and a team with sometimes very limited ball movement. That and we are not a strong shooting team which leads to poor spacing as it is.. D Schroder does not help with that. I also feel that PP, while Not being as good as Schro, is a far better fit with what we need and developing him sooner than later is far more important.
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Post#1754 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:33 pm

playa-hater wrote:
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Curmudgeon wrote:It makes sense for Boston.

All of the contenders are set at point guard and most of the other teams are grooming young guys. I expect Schroder to be here until the end of year, dribbling the air out of the ball, unless he is included in a large deal for salary matching purposes or if there is an unexpected injury and no other backup is available.

Yeah. I think Schröder will be here at Season's End. And potentially into next year.
I'm not too high on bringing in another established All-Star PG.

We've seen what Dennis can do. Unless something far better materializing.
With Pritchard in the Wings and on our 2nd Unit.

Smart, should remain our "Wild Card".


:D which is why most of us want him gone..

OK to be more serious, he has scoring ability and can get into the lane for sure.. But I just don't like his fit with everything Boston has. We are a team with too many need the ball type of players and a team with sometimes very limited ball movement. That and we are not a strong shooting team which leads to poor spacing as it is.. D Schroder does not help with that. I also feel that PP, while Not being as good as Schro, is a far better fit with what we need and developing him sooner than later is far more important.

Makes sense, now that you put it that way.
I just don't know who we can get, that would satisfy as a better patch.

IDK if Pritchard will ever be a Starting PG. But, we need one, and a 2nd Unit PG.
We also need that 3rd PG slot filled.
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Post#1755 » by playa-hater » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:37 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Yeah. I think Schröder will be here at Season's End. And potentially into next year.
I'm not too high on bringing in another established All-Star PG.

We've seen what Dennis can do. Unless something far better materializing.
With Pritchard in the Wings and on our 2nd Unit.

Smart, should remain our "Wild Card".


:D which is why most of us want him gone..

OK to be more serious, he has scoring ability and can get into the lane for sure.. But I just don't like his fit with everything Boston has. We are a team with too many need the ball type of players and a team with sometimes very limited ball movement. That and we are not a strong shooting team which leads to poor spacing as it is.. D Schroder does not help with that. I also feel that PP, while Not being as good as Schro, is a far better fit with what we need and developing him sooner than later is far more important.

Makes sense, now that you put it that way.
I just don't know who we can get, that would satisfy as a better patch.

IDK if Pritchard will ever be a Starting PG
. But, we need one, and a 2nd Unit PG.
We also need that 3rd PG slot filled.


AS much as I love PP, he is best a solid backup PG. a true starting PG for a championship level team is still needed.
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Post#1756 » by GoGreen » Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:38 pm

Thoughts on Cam Reddish? Shams says Hawks want a 1st for him. JB/Cam/JT would be a damn interesting mix, but wonder if they would get in each others way..
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Post#1757 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:26 pm

GoGreen wrote:Thoughts on Cam Reddish? Shams says Hawks want a 1st for him. JB/Cam/JT would be a damn interesting mix, but wonder if they would get in each others way..

It's up to the Jays. As far as I've seen, we're just a better team when we play with pace, share the ball, and more players are empowered and involved in making plays.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/32930435/lowe-10-things-melo-hilarious-yells-baffling-celtics-glorious-return-warriors

On good nights, they look incredible. They blow out the Lakers and Bucks. Brown and Tatum make quick decisions -- grab-and-go drives, early passes that catch the defense on the wrong foot.

Smart dials back his shot selection, and looks like the team's best passer.

And then, poof: They go back to the team that holds the ball, plays too slowly, and ranks 24th in assist rate.

If a team leaves you puzzled over and over -- tantalizing with hopeful flashes amid long periods of drudgery -- it means one of two things: that it's only a matter of time before they put it together and roar, or that something is missing.

It doesn't feel like these Celtics will roar, at least not this season. So what's missing? It could be a fast-twitch playmaker to tie everyone together; some ineffable bit of chemistry between Tatum and Brown; or some unknown.
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Post#1758 » by playa-hater » Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:04 am

GoGreen wrote:Thoughts on Cam Reddish? Shams says Hawks want a 1st for him. JB/Cam/JT would be a damn interesting mix, but wonder if they would get in each others way..


I absolutely love Cam reddish and his potential, But our 1st would need to be top 7 lottery protected at minimum.
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Post#1759 » by playa-hater » Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:05 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Thoughts on Cam Reddish? Shams says Hawks want a 1st for him. JB/Cam/JT would be a damn interesting mix, but wonder if they would get in each others way..

It's up to the Jays. As far as I've seen, we're just a better team when we play with pace, share the ball, and more players are empowered and involved in making plays.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/32930435/lowe-10-things-melo-hilarious-yells-baffling-celtics-glorious-return-warriors

On good nights, they look incredible. They blow out the Lakers and Bucks. Brown and Tatum make quick decisions -- grab-and-go drives, early passes that catch the defense on the wrong foot.

Smart dials back his shot selection, and looks like the team's best passer.

And then, poof: They go back to the team that holds the ball, plays too slowly, and ranks 24th in assist rate.

If a team leaves you puzzled over and over -- tantalizing with hopeful flashes amid long periods of drudgery -- it means one of two things: that it's only a matter of time before they put it together and roar, or that something is missing.

It doesn't feel like these Celtics will roar, at least not this season. So what's missing? It could be a fast-twitch playmaker to tie everyone together; some ineffable bit of chemistry between Tatum and Brown; or some unknown.


You keep saying this and starting now I will keep agreeing however I still feel it is imperative that the coach makes them play that way.
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Post#1760 » by playa-hater » Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:08 am

For the record the one player at point guard I feel would be perfect for this team going forward with all the qualities that Tatum and Brown need and Boston needs Would be halliburton. I just wish there was a way to get him.
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