The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0)

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

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I dont believe for a second that Smart or Jaylen are on the table. First of all. If it were Jaylen plus the 17 brooklyn pick, that would mean the Bulls get 2 of the 3 brooklyn picks we had. Which is the same as the 17 and 18 brooklyn pick. No chance. Bulls fans are day dreaming about that scenario. Also, I dont think Smart is on the table. I think AB or Crowder are on the table plus filler and the 17 brookyln pick. So if the Bulls were to be able to recieve AB + 17 Brooklyn unprotected that would be the best deal they'd ever get or also Crowder + the 17 Brooklyn unprotected. They wouldn't be able to get a Smart or a Brown on top of that in a million years. We could hold on to them until the off season easily. The Bulls are so dysfunctional and the leverage is on our side.

[OFWGKTA]

I'm gonna **** lose it if we trade Smart

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I'm gonna **** lose it if we trade Smart

same. I want him on the floor to grab the 50/50 balls and do all the things

[Green89]

I think Danny lets Rozier go before Smart or Brown.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I don't understand why every year we think something substantial will happen. Constantly letting ourselves get worked up just to have a minor trade!

Reminds me of when I turned 18 and went to the club the first few times. Had high hopes of picking up a girl and getting laid, with the end result being me going home alone drunk, masturbating to Internet porn over a slow 28.8 kbps modem. Ah, good times!!

[sully00]

This thread needs Derrick Favors talk. Not sure what that deal looks like maybe Amir and a pick or KO but apparently Favors and Gobert are no good together.

Favors is one of those guys who might be excellent or might break down due to injuries. Objectively, you can only play the odds and hope for the best outcome. Frankly, IDK for what would Utah agree to trade Favors, your proposal is as good as any I've seen.

TBH, I'm not at all surprised Favors hasn't turned into what Nets/Utah/rest of the NBA expected him to be. Despite his great athleticism, his size isn't overwhelming and his moves always seemed kinda weird, not star-like. But when he's healthy, he's a really good player to have on your team.

If they traded Favors, Utah let Al Jeff and Millsap go away to build around Favors and Kanter only to see both of them traded away to build around Gobert. All 3 guys that went away prospered after playing for the Jazz, and while it's hard to point the finger onto them (because there are objective reasons why it hasn't worked out), it's still kinda stupid.

Favors problems in Utah's rotation is why I would love him in Boston. He is a stay at home big man with the ability to switch on other defenders. He is a low post operator on offense but doesn't need to be an offensive star to be effective. The problem is that Utah stumbled into Gobert who is even better protecting the rim and defending the post but even more limited range. So they have tried the natural approach of trying to make Favors more of a perimeter oriented PF and it has limited his offensive rebounding and offensive efficiency because of them asking him to give up the lane and take more jumpers and even 3's.

The Jazz know how good he is but they also know it isn't likely going to work out long term with the two of them. But to move him and his now friendly contract they want someone to value him as the defensive minded double double guy who gets to the line that he was before Gobert. Otherwise at 11-12 mil in today's NBA they can just let him play it out as a backup they are pretty damn good team themselves.

I think he would be a great pairing with Horford. He would be willing to do the dirty work that Horford dislikes and be more of a post presence freeing Horford to play more in space not unlike KG and Perk. Now Favors is twice as good as Perk and Horford is no KG but the same idea.

The 12 mil would impact cap space next season unless you send out Bradley or Crowder but Favors is only 25 and if he returns to form he is a near max player at half that price for 2018 and then you have to work out the future as you do with everyone on the roster.

[greenroom31]

IDK I just think Drummond makes you guys dangerous. The IT/Drummond pick and roll surrounded by shooters would just be a lethal offense and hard to stop. Commit to either IT or Drummond rolling or commit to the 3 point line and let those two feast at the rim like Reggie and Drummond did last season before Reggies knee went to hell. Plus he would instantly make you guys a top rebounding team, especially on the offensive glass.

Plus you guys have something we don't to counter hack a Dre and that's playing Horford at the 5.

Ok, but why would Detroit want to trade Drummond? Isn't he the guy you should be building around while you try to trade pretty much everyone else?

[chrisab123]

Don't trade Jaylen or Smart. Let them develop, we aren't winning this year or next, anyway.

Oh if the Celtics get Butler and Drummond or just Drummond they'll make some serious noise. Especially if Cleveland is without Love. Get to the finals and have a punchers chance vs GSW.

[radcot]

Doubt there's any substance to the trade speculations whirling around, but the one that has me most excited is Drummond -- by far.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

I don't understand why every year we think something substantial will happen. Constantly letting ourselves get worked up just to have a minor trade!

Reminds me of when I turned 18 and went to the club the first few times. Had high hopes of picking up a girl and getting laid, with the end result being me going home alone drunk, masturbating to Internet porn over a slow 28.8 kbps modem. Ah, good times!!

At least you could laugh about it.

[OFWGKTA]

I'm gonna **** lose it if we trade Smart

same. I want him on the floor to grab the 50/50 balls and do all the things

If you zoom in on the Celtics logo you realize it's actually Smart's face

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I'm gonna **** lose it if we trade Smart

same. I want him on the floor to grab the 50/50 balls and do all the things

If you zoom in on the Celtics logo you realize it's actually Smart's face

i thought so

[MotownMadness]

IDK I just think Drummond makes you guys dangerous. The IT/Drummond pick and roll surrounded by shooters would just be a lethal offense and hard to stop. Commit to either IT or Drummond rolling or commit to the 3 point line and let those two feast at the rim like Reggie and Drummond did last season before Reggies knee went to hell. Plus he would instantly make you guys a top rebounding team, especially on the offensive glass.

Plus you guys have something we don't to counter hack a Dre and that's playing Horford at the 5.

Ok, but why would Detroit want to trade Drummond? Isn't he the guy you should be building around while you try to trade pretty much everyone else?

They won't trade him for scraps but they probably want one of those Brooklyn picks to try and build around. Right now we are a 8th seed flirting with the luxury tax. They won't just dump him though and if he moves they are definitely looking at one of those Brooklyn picks.

[Cornbread]

It just makes way to much sense to wait until the offseason to make a move.

[Green89]

Aside from eyeball tweets, do we have any substantiated rumor or story that the C's and Pistons are actually talking??

[PierceFan4ever]

I highly doubt Stevens would want to involve Smart in a trade package. Like I said, nobody loves Smart more than Stevens.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Drummond doesn't fit our offense. I can't see him being someone CBS n DA would want and at his price tag either. He can't hit free throws either so he's a liability at the end of a close game. It'd be hack-a-Shaq all over again.

Steven could utilize him the same way the Clippers utilize DeAndre Jordan. Just need shooters at the other positions to space the floor.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Aside from eyeball tweets, do we have any substantiated rumor or story that the C's and Pistons are actually talking??

No

[amory87]

Aside from eyeball tweets, do we have any substantiated rumor or story that the C's and Pistons are actually talking??

I'm a lot higher on Drummond than others on here, I think he's on a bad team but has star potential in the right situation. But I can't see a deal getting done for him. Detroit isn't going to let him go for anything less than probably Johnson + Bradley + 2017 BKN 1st, and I don't think Ainge would make that deal for anyone except George or Butler.

Drummond is a very intriguing target for the Celtics. His free throw shooting is a definite minus, but I think plugging him in at the 5 unlocks Horford's potential since he'd be able to play the 4, which everyone knows he prefers. Drummond's also under contract for the distant future

[FeedReed]

stayed up till 4 am following thread... now dead. would love to get drummond or griffin as long as SMART isn't involved.