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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1761 » by Streakers33 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 9:52 pm

Dieng, okc 2018, minny 2020 for crowder, smart, Bradley,


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Post#1762 » by KumaJG » Thu Jul 6, 2017 9:56 pm

Hopefully we find out who we trading soon. Don't want to deal with a week of rumors.
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Post#1763 » by Avalanche » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:02 pm

I just don't see how dealing Jae to Utah gets us the best return, nearly every team in the league would be interested in Jae at his price tag

Media seems confident it will just be Utah but unless it's Mitchell...
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Post#1764 » by 711takeover » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:03 pm

Streakers33 wrote:Dieng, okc 2018, minny 2020 for crowder, smart, Bradley,


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Post#1765 » by Disinformation » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:25 pm

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Post#1766 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:28 pm

The Hayward signing is getting more and more expensive by the hour.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1767 » by gocelts » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:36 pm

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theman wrote:Avery Bradley seems like a perfect fit for San Antonio. They need a SG. Bradley and Leonard defending would be stifling. Would San Antonio send a first for Bradley? It won't be a great pick but it would be a pick. If I were Danny I would try to make it a 2021 pick and hope they get worse some how.

I would offer Crowder to Sacramento for Skal Labissiere (AKA the guy Danny should have drafted over Yabusele). Then accept their counter offer of Georgios Papagiannis.

I would want a S&T with Dedmond coming back the other way somehow.


I don't think Dedmon is signing for less than 4.3 million. I could be wrong.


Dedmon isn't happening. He doesn't shoot 3s and we already have Zizic. Put your Danny hat on and think Another year of Jerebko and maybe get retread like (gulp) Speights.
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Post#1768 » by Patsfan1081 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:39 pm

I'm not feeling good about these trade prospects every report comin out has Boston getting cheated out of any value in a Crowder/Smart/Bradley deal. I find it hard to believe they couldn't get anything in return for these guys, would every team honestly play hardball to the point of losing out on a good player?
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Post#1769 » by Baller1234a » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:39 pm

They might ... I mean sometimes they are not rational
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Post#1770 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:13 pm

If there is none available for trade, couldn't danny sign some G league specialist in rebounding + interior defense? At least it's a guarantee that this guy can do something rather than being a jack of all trades trash version of Horford.

So uhh. . . WHO?
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Post#1771 » by Baller1234a » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:16 pm

Asian Celtic wrote:If there is none available for trade, couldn't danny sign some G league specialist in rebounding + interior defense? At least it's a guarantee that this guy can do something rather than being a jack of all trades trash version of Horford.

So uhh. . . WHO?


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Post#1772 » by captain green » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:29 pm

What about Kenneth faried for Bradley and Crowder we get that 3 mil saved (roughly). And we get the rim production solved ?
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Post#1773 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:32 pm

Baller1234a wrote:
Asian Celtic wrote:If there is none available for trade, couldn't danny sign some G league specialist in rebounding + interior defense? At least it's a guarantee that this guy can do something rather than being a jack of all trades trash version of Horford.

So uhh. . . WHO?


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Wow hansbrough still at it eh?
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Post#1774 » by ViperGTS » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:36 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:I'm not feeling good about these trade prospects every report comin out has Boston getting cheated out of any value in a Crowder/Smart/Bradley deal. I find it hard to believe they couldn't get anything in return for these guys, would every team honestly play hardball to the point of losing out on a good player?


I said it yesterday that every team in the league is enjoying the sh*t out of this situation. Bradley, Crowder, Smart aren't can't have or must have players for any team. Nobody is in a let's help the Cs mode.

It's the culmination of Danny fleecing everyone. It's his job and he's done it well, but there is a price to pay for that.

You are seeing said price right now.
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Post#1775 » by robdog_5 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:36 pm

Where are there reports. I see nothing but speculation.
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Post#1776 » by robdog_5 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:39 pm

ViperGTS wrote:
Patsfan1081 wrote:I'm not feeling good about these trade prospects every report comin out has Boston getting cheated out of any value in a Crowder/Smart/Bradley deal. I find it hard to believe they couldn't get anything in return for these guys, would every team honestly play hardball to the point of losing out on a good player?


I said it yesterday that every team in the league is enjoying the sh*t out of this situation. Bradley, Crowder, Smart aren't can't have or must have players for any team. Nobody is in a let's help the Cs mode.

It's the culmination of Danny fleecing everyone. It's his job and he's done it well, but there is a price to pay for that.

You are seeing said price right now.


these takes are stupid. Nobody who wants to keep there job is not wanting to trade for a valuable player because the other guy has known to fleece people. You make trades because you believe they will either help now or in the future. The problem we have is Many of the teams that would want win now players have filled up. We're not in position to take back equal $ while those teams have to get equal $ out. Bad teams don't want win now players and give up cheap assets. It's not in their best interest. It has nothing to do with helping Boston or DA. If Houston, OKC, Clippers, Nuggets could afford Crowder, Bradley and Smart on their current deals and give us something back of value they would have done it already. It's not that hard to understand.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1777 » by ViperGTS » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:45 pm

robdog_5 wrote:
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Patsfan1081 wrote:I'm not feeling good about these trade prospects every report comin out has Boston getting cheated out of any value in a Crowder/Smart/Bradley deal. I find it hard to believe they couldn't get anything in return for these guys, would every team honestly play hardball to the point of losing out on a good player?


I said it yesterday that every team in the league is enjoying the sh*t out of this situation. Bradley, Crowder, Smart aren't can't have or must have players for any team. Nobody is in a let's help the Cs mode.

It's the culmination of Danny fleecing everyone. It's his job and he's done it well, but there is a price to pay for that.

You are seeing said price right now.


these takes are stupid. Nobody who wants to keep there job is not wanting to trade for a valuable player because the other guy has known to fleece people. You make trades because you believe they will either help now or in the future. The problem we have is Many of the teams that would want win now players have filled up. We're not in position to take back equal $ while those teams have to get equal $ out. Bad teams don't want win now players and give up cheap assets. It's not in their best interest. It has nothing to do with helping Boston or DA. If Houston, OKC, Clippers, Nuggets could afford Crowder, Bradley and Smart on their current deals and give us something back of value they would have done it already. It's not that hard to understand.


OKC had no problem trading for George did they? Or the rumored trade involving Carmelo?

See, YOU don't understand. It's part of the natural human condition. If IT was on the block, you may seem them break ranks. Instead, they will make a trade, but it will 100 percent be on the side of the other team. As I said, none of these players are must haves.

Bradley- expiring, and is an injury risk
Smart-can't shoot and is going to need a contract
Crowder- great contract, solid player but not a must have

It's no different than them asking for all the BKN assets and others for trades. If Philly wanted Fultz so bad they would have given up 2 1sts for him if it was any other team. I believe that. Instead, they begrudgingly coughed up one.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1778 » by robdog_5 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:57 pm

ViperGTS wrote:
robdog_5 wrote:
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I said it yesterday that every team in the league is enjoying the sh*t out of this situation. Bradley, Crowder, Smart aren't can't have or must have players for any team. Nobody is in a let's help the Cs mode.

It's the culmination of Danny fleecing everyone. It's his job and he's done it well, but there is a price to pay for that.

You are seeing said price right now.


these takes are stupid. Nobody who wants to keep there job is not wanting to trade for a valuable player because the other guy has known to fleece people. You make trades because you believe they will either help now or in the future. The problem we have is Many of the teams that would want win now players have filled up. We're not in position to take back equal $ while those teams have to get equal $ out. Bad teams don't want win now players and give up cheap assets. It's not in their best interest. It has nothing to do with helping Boston or DA. If Houston, OKC, Clippers, Nuggets could afford Crowder, Bradley and Smart on their current deals and give us something back of value they would have done it already. It's not that hard to understand.


OKC had no problem trading for George did they? Or the rumored trade involving Carmelo?

See, YOU don't understand. It's part of the natural human condition. If IT was on the block, you may seem them break ranks. Instead, they will make a trade, but it will 100 percent be on the side of the other team. As I said, none of these players are must haves.

Bradley- expiring, and is an injury risk
Smart-can't shoot and is going to need a contract
Crowder- great contract, solid player but not a must have

It's no different than them asking for all the BKN assets and others for trades. If Philly wanted Fultz so bad they would have given up 2 1sts for him if it was any other team. I believe that. Instead, they begrudgingly coughed up one.


This is an even worse take. Your comparing Paul George to Jae Crowder?

Let's see Boston can't take back equal value in $ to make it work. So they have to find someone pretty cheap they like. Ok for craps and giggles since I've already done this 4 times let's find some. I found Hermangomez and Portis earlier. If I'm Boston I kick tires on those two teams. Bulls why would they want Crowder? Their rebuilding, they can play young guys, tank and build there, why give up a young controllable rotation big who could blossom with more time? Knicks, same argument as above? Ok how about Rockets, OKC, Clippers and let's say Minny. FOR THEM TO MAKE A TRADE THEY have to send out equal $. So getting a 3rd team which takes time, needs to be incorporated. We can't swap Crowder for a player on their roster because we can't take back the same or more $ as Crowder has going out.

It's not that HARD, if GMs black ball other GMs out of spite, they will be out of a job real quick, because that's not how you do good business.

The best option we have to get value is to trade to a good team who has space. Like Spurs and Utah right now. Find assets on those rosters, or figure out a 3rd team to get involved who may want picks to absorb a contract.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1779 » by Jaqua92 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:58 pm

So what is the latest buzz? I tuned out after signing Hayward
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1780 » by Kefa461 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:00 am

ko.....to the heat......


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