Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[Jaqua92]

Dude the amount of luck it took for the Raptors to win the Finals is unreal. They are good, but it's unreal, literally. I guess it was kinda similar with queen James and the Warriors a few years back. Ujiri robbed the Spurs. This was a travesty and it will continue being a travesty. I doubt we would've gotten off with trading a high volume scorer, a late first and a rotation big for Kawhi. We would've paid dearly and you don't know what would've happened cause of Irving. It is what it is. I don't blame Ainge at all, tbh.

The report is that we would've paid dearly in the form of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.

BTW, nobody ever blames Ainge for anything. No accountability whatsoever.

Hold yourself accountable first and try to at least understand why the move wasn't made (HINT: THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT HIM).

Move wasn't made cause he wants AD.

well, here we are.

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[Tyakack]

Dude the amount of luck it took for the Raptors to win the Finals is unreal. They are good, but it's unreal, literally. I guess it was kinda similar with queen James and the Warriors a few years back. Ujiri robbed the Spurs. This was a travesty and it will continue being a travesty. I doubt we would've gotten off with trading a high volume scorer, a late first and a rotation big for Kawhi. We would've paid dearly and you don't know what would've happened cause of Irving. It is what it is. I don't blame Ainge at all, tbh.

The report is that we would've paid dearly in the form of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.

BTW, nobody ever blames Ainge for anything. No accountability whatsoever.

Hold yourself accountable first and try to at least understand why the move wasn't made (HINT: THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT HIM).

This is why I'm giving him a pass on that. However, if he passed on leonard just so he could get AD.......and then he doesn't get AD.........I mean.... He might deserve just a liiiiiiiiitle bit of criticism at that point.

[nickgammon]

I still don’t get Kyrie’s motivation if he indeed signs with the Nets. I’ve given up on trying to figure it out though.

Thought it was funny that Woj's article mentioned ROC's relationship with the entertainment industry when Kyrie is in a commercial every other break and was in a freaking movie.

Think the last star I remember going to a place only because of it being where they grew up was Carmelo. Damn New Yorkers are a different breed.

Dude I live in NYC and it’s one of my least favorite places that I’ve been too, but many locals love it and can’t function anywhere else. It’s strange, but I can understand it

[Jaqua92]

The report is that we would've paid dearly in the form of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.

BTW, nobody ever blames Ainge for anything. No accountability whatsoever.

Hold yourself accountable first and try to at least understand why the move wasn't made (HINT: THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT HIM).

This is why I'm giving him a pass on that. However, if he passed on leonard just so he could get AD.......and then he doesn't get AD.........I mean.... He might deserve just a liiiiiiiiitle bit of criticism at that point.

Nope. Danny is always justified lol

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[watsonthedragon]

To me, all signs point to DA making the deal with or without Kyrie - from the Wyc article, to everything we've heard from the insiders, to the fact that the NBA will be as wide open as its been in years with KD and Klay injuries. It's been 11 years since our last and Danny's only championship. I don't think he nor ownership wants to keep pushing the timeline forward. When it comes down to it, I think he will end up putting Tatum in the deal, but he's trying his hardest to leverage LA's **** offer to make it work with Brown.

[CelticFaninLBC]

To me, all signs point to DA making the deal with or without Kyrie - from the Wyc article, to everything we've heard from the insiders, to the fact that the NBA will be as wide open as its been in years with KD and Klay injuries. It's been 11 years since our last and Danny's only championship. I don't think he nor ownership wants to keep pushing the timeline forward. When it comes down to it, I think he will end up putting Tatum in the deal, but he's trying his hardest to leverage LA's **** offer to make it work with Brown.

Seems he's trying to push this past the draft and into free agency when Boston has more sign-n-trade options they can add... LA's hand gets weaker after the draft.

[b3n]

To me, all signs point to DA making the deal with or without Kyrie - from the Wyc article, to everything we've heard from the insiders, to the fact that the NBA will be as wide open as its been in years with KD and Klay injuries. It's been 11 years since our last and Danny's only championship. I don't think he nor ownership wants to keep pushing the timeline forward. When it comes down to it, I think he will end up putting Tatum in the deal, but he's trying his hardest to leverage LA's **** offer to make it work with Brown.

Isn't Bulpett usually Ainge's media mouthpiece? We still haven't heard any rumor of the Cs offer to the Pels (unless I missed it). Then (not surprisingly with the amount of existing smoke, but) a rumor comes out that Irving is prepared to sign with Brooklyn ("is prepared" - easy to backtrack on a statement like that). We all know Irving loves Tatum, Irving dislikes Brown, & the Pels don't want to deal AD to LA if they don't have to. Could the Irving to Brooklyn rumor possibly be an Ainge tactic to try and drive home a Brown, Smart, Yabu & picks package for AD? Kyrie signing with Brooklyn seems likely, but anything could happen. Far fetched but for all we know right now Ainge is on the phone with Golden State offering Hayward & picks for an injured KD (after picking up his player option), has plans to sign Irving to a 1+1 & get AD, KD & Irving all here on one year deals.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The report is that we would've paid dearly in the form of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.

BTW, nobody ever blames Ainge for anything. No accountability whatsoever.

Hold yourself accountable first and try to at least understand why the move wasn't made (HINT: THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT HIM).

This is why I'm giving him a pass on that. However, if he passed on leonard just so he could get AD.......and then he doesn't get AD.........I mean.... He might deserve just a liiiiiiiiitle bit of criticism at that point.

The whole point was to pair Kyrie with AD. If Kawhi was willing to stay, then Ainge pairs those 2 up and we go for titles.

However, if Kyrie leaves and we only have AD, then perhaps Ainge isn't all that confident that AD/Brown/Hayward/Horford will be enough to get us a title.

[celtics543]

To me, all signs point to DA making the deal with or without Kyrie - from the Wyc article, to everything we've heard from the insiders, to the fact that the NBA will be as wide open as its been in years with KD and Klay injuries. It's been 11 years since our last and Danny's only championship. I don't think he nor ownership wants to keep pushing the timeline forward. When it comes down to it, I think he will end up putting Tatum in the deal, but he's trying his hardest to leverage LA's **** offer to make it work with Brown.

Isn't Bulpett usually Ainge's media mouthpiece? We still haven't heard any rumor of the Cs offer to the Pels (unless I missed it). Then (not surprisingly with the amount of existing smoke, but) a rumor comes out that Irving is prepared to sign with Brooklyn ("is prepared" - easy to backtrack on a statement like that). We all know Irving loves Tatum, Irving dislikes Brown, & the Pels don't want to deal AD to LA if they don't have to. Could the Irving to Brooklyn rumor possibly be an Ainge tactic to try and drive home a Brown, Smart, Yabu & picks package for AD? Kyrie signing with Brooklyn seems likely, but anything could happen. Far fetched but for all we know right now Ainge is on the phone with Golden State offering Hayward & picks for an injured KD (after picking up his player option), has plans to sign Irving to a 1+1 & get AD, KD & Irving all here on one year deals.

And the point of KD on a 1 year deal would be...?

[ThirtyFour]

”The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”
- Einstein

So basically, by trading for a guy with one year left on his contract and hoping he stays, the Celtics are insane.

Spoiler:

Actually, that is not the definition of insanity at all, yet it’s referenced in the media all the time as fact to make people sound smarter than they are. And, the original quote is not even attributed to Einstein. In fact, it’s unknown who first said it but people always credit him with it.

Really makes my blood boil.

What does it all mean?
Kyrie is staying and we’re getting AD without sending Tatum of course!

That's not the definition of insanity, and Einstein never said it was.

Yeah. It was actually said by Maya Angelou, and the last part is “different results”, not “a different result”

Never mind, it was an off key joke poking fun at the media and how people start to believe things when they hear it over and over. Not so sure it was Maya either though.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I think it was Maya, but it may have been Abraham Lincoln

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Things change on a daily basis. I don't see kyrie walking away from a 5 year max contract, and an opportunity to play with AD.

[SichtingLives]

Ainge is pumping up the Tatum's value as much as he can to keep the ultimate value of the trade package lower when he has to include him. Ainge does not have any problem dealing Tatum for AD but this is how negotiating works. A Brown headed package is not going to get it done. We know this, everyone knows it. We're not going to foist the Pels into trading us Davis for Brown and Smart, the Lakers can and will beat that. This is all about building up Tatum right now. We always knew this was the cost to get AD. The goal is not to throw in half a million other assets with him.

[b3n]

To me, all signs point to DA making the deal with or without Kyrie - from the Wyc article, to everything we've heard from the insiders, to the fact that the NBA will be as wide open as its been in years with KD and Klay injuries. It's been 11 years since our last and Danny's only championship. I don't think he nor ownership wants to keep pushing the timeline forward. When it comes down to it, I think he will end up putting Tatum in the deal, but he's trying his hardest to leverage LA's **** offer to make it work with Brown.

Isn't Bulpett usually Ainge's media mouthpiece? We still haven't heard any rumor of the Cs offer to the Pels (unless I missed it). Then (not surprisingly with the amount of existing smoke, but) a rumor comes out that Irving is prepared to sign with Brooklyn ("is prepared" - easy to backtrack on a statement like that). We all know Irving loves Tatum, Irving dislikes Brown, & the Pels don't want to deal AD to LA if they don't have to. Could the Irving to Brooklyn rumor possibly be an Ainge tactic to try and drive home a Brown, Smart, Yabu & picks package for AD? Kyrie signing with Brooklyn seems likely, but anything could happen. Far fetched but for all we know right now Ainge is on the phone with Golden State offering Hayward & picks for an injured KD (after picking up his player option), has plans to sign Irving to a 1+1 & get AD, KD & Irving all here on one year deals.

And the point of KD on a 1 year deal would be...?

Same as AD or Irving in on a 1 year deal. You hope they agree to re-sign. Possession is 9/10ths kind of thing. To make clear, I'm not advocating for this, just stating that anything is possible right now

[sully00]

The report is that we would've paid dearly in the form of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.

BTW, nobody ever blames Ainge for anything. No accountability whatsoever.

Hold yourself accountable first and try to at least understand why the move wasn't made (HINT: THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT HIM).

This is why I'm giving him a pass on that. However, if he passed on leonard just so he could get AD.......and then he doesn't get AD.........I mean.... He might deserve just a liiiiiiiiitle bit of criticism at that point.

But there are human beings involved. This is stupid. Leonard wasn't willing to make any kind of commitment to Boston long term or put them on his "list" and either is Davis. Kyrie wanted to come here and had two years on his deal and it looks like he is bolting. I am not saying you can't trade for a guy in that situation it just has a price like everything in life. The price I am willing to pay for one year of Anthony Davis is not Jayson Tatum bottom line.

The mistake Ainge made and should be criticized for his trading for Irving. He was wrong on his knee and his head and his fit with this team. He blew a lottery pick that could have been Sexton or Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in the trade.

Hope for the best but plan for the worst. If you make the Davis trade it is with the expectation that he is in LAL, BRK, or NYK in a year, where are the Celts then? TOR made its deal because they will have to revamp their roster either way if Leonard stays they can stick with the veterans they have acquired if he leaves they will sell off and rebuild. Boston is already rebuilt you don't scrap it for a one flyer. It is lazy, stupid and foolish. We have just watched star after star scratch one year off their careers and contracts in this past week. Beyond that we have watched them pay little consequence financially for it happening. They are going to get 5 year max deals while they rehab. What makes it so Davis doesn't feel a little something in his knee that he needs to sit out for? Load management like 40 games worth.

[chrisab123]

Isn't Bulpett usually Ainge's media mouthpiece? We still haven't heard any rumor of the Cs offer to the Pels (unless I missed it). Then (not surprisingly with the amount of existing smoke, but) a rumor comes out that Irving is prepared to sign with Brooklyn ("is prepared" - easy to backtrack on a statement like that). We all know Irving loves Tatum, Irving dislikes Brown, & the Pels don't want to deal AD to LA if they don't have to. Could the Irving to Brooklyn rumor possibly be an Ainge tactic to try and drive home a Brown, Smart, Yabu & picks package for AD? Kyrie signing with Brooklyn seems likely, but anything could happen. Far fetched but for all we know right now Ainge is on the phone with Golden State offering Hayward & picks for an injured KD (after picking up his player option), has plans to sign Irving to a 1+1 & get AD, KD & Irving all here on one year deals.

And the point of KD on a 1 year deal would be...?

Same as AD or Irving in on a 1 year deal. You hope they agree to re-sign. Possession is 9/10ths kind of thing. To make clear, I'm not advocating for this, just stating that anything is possible right now

Anything is possible except for Kyrie returning. Danny Ainge pretty much said that through Bulpett last night. AD could very well be coming with a drastically revamped roster.

[b3n]

And the point of KD on a 1 year deal would be...?

Same as AD or Irving in on a 1 year deal. You hope they agree to re-sign. Possession is 9/10ths kind of thing. To make clear, I'm not advocating for this, just stating that anything is possible right now

Anything is possible except for Kyrie returning. Danny Ainge pretty much said that through Bulpett last night. AD could very well be coming with a drastically revamped roster.

More than likely.

[JR Hawks]

Dude the amount of luck it took for the Raptors to win the Finals is unreal. They are good, but it's unreal, literally. I guess it was kinda similar with queen James and the Warriors a few years back. Ujiri robbed the Spurs. This was a travesty and it will continue being a travesty. I doubt we would've gotten off with trading a high volume scorer, a late first and a rotation big for Kawhi. We would've paid dearly and you don't know what would've happened cause of Irving. It is what it is. I don't blame Ainge at all, tbh.

The report is that we would've paid dearly in the form of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.

BTW, nobody ever blames Ainge for anything. No accountability whatsoever.

Hold yourself accountable first and try to at least understand why the move wasn't made (HINT: THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT HIM).

That makes no sense. You could trade for AD without Brown and Smart.