Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[GoCeltics123]

Can not believe teams are offering only expiring contracts for Drummond. Ok he can become FA in summer, but still.
Can not have 3 wings on bear max contracts +kemba...Hayward should be traded in a 3 ways that lands Drummond in Boston.

It's called Drummond isn't good.

The NBA isn't giving up firsts for him because he blows.

[100proof]

Can not believe teams are offering only expiring contracts for Drummond. Ok he can become FA in summer, but still.
Can not have 3 wings on bear max contracts +kemba...Hayward should be traded in a 3 ways that lands Drummond in Boston.

Because he's Enis Kanter and wants a max contract instead of 5m. No trades for Drummond. I'd take him for like 9m a year MLE in the offseason.

He is better than enes kanter.
By a fair amount.
But I get your point about him not necessarily being the best type of center for the team

[Curmudgeon]

Well, I wouldn't mind giving a late first for some shooting help, but I just don't see a good fit salary-wise. Sure, moving Poirier is painless, but who else do you add? Ojeleye is one of those guys who everyone loves to hate, but he has his uses, particularly against Giannis. Wanamaker is also a cost effective player. Do you want to move Grant Williams or Langford?

[Andrew McCeltic]

What’s not to get?

He’s a good passer, runs the pick-and-roll well, hit threes at a decent clip and opens up lanes for others to drive by stepping out of the paint. That’s the definition of a facilitator. That’s Hayward’s game as well.

We are are well aware he’s not as good as player as Hayward. But the point isn’t to trade for another Hayward, it’s to use his money to acquire a legit Center and use spare parts to get a player who’s a poor man’s Hayward who can do a good enough impression and improve our scoring off the bench.

You just repeated your definition.. it’s just semantics, not worth getting bogged down - he stretches the floor, he’s a decent passer, he can run the pick and roll, got it.

Come on man, you asked for my definition of facilitator, after you already read my definition, then got mad when I repeated the same thing to you that you seemingly already knew. So why bother asking?

I didn’t ask you your definition, I said I didn’t understand your definition. If there was any implicit question there, it was why you defined “facilitator” as someone with those specific skills instead of in a different way. I would think of Horford, Jokic, Doncic, Lebron, future Lonzo Ball - someone who’s able to create a lot of looks for the teammates in how they run plays, screen, pass, execute. Someone you can run offense “through” - and not the same thing as being a point guard.

The way you’re describing Gallo makes me think of Tayshaun Prince, Olynyk, Avery Bradley, Sabonis (who’s also a facilitator), players who help an offense run smoothly but more grease than engine..

[Dannyboy36]

Can not believe teams are offering only expiring contracts for Drummond. Ok he can become FA in summer, but still.
Can not have 3 wings on bear max contracts +kemba...Hayward should be traded in a 3 ways that lands Drummond in Boston.

I saw a report that pistons were only asking for Julius Randle and .. I forget. Someone else not good. Now that makes sense.

[Dannyboy36]

It literally says exactly what I think it says, right there in black and white.

You were wrong, it’s okay.

Doc said he was the best facilitator on the team. The roster didn't have a PG. Gallo was the best option, doesn't mean he is good.

You were wrong

Not what it says whatsoever. Reading comprehension surely is a problem for you, huh?

And the team certainly had PGs in Beverly and SGA, so just more nonsense from you...

Again, you were completely wrong. Trying to move the goal posts to fit your narrative doesn’t change a thing, but it’s hilarious watching you try to dig yourself out of the hole you created.

It’s ok to be wrong. Nobody agrees with you, man. Even if you believe still you are right.. good for you! But yeah.. you still gotta throw you’re little angry remarks. Just accept people have a different opinion. Little digs certainly won’t change that. And I don’t know how someone trying to dig themselves out of a hole when everyone agrees with him. You’re in the hole if anyone is.

[Darth Celtic]

Can not believe teams are offering only expiring contracts for Drummond. Ok he can become FA in summer, but still.
Can not have 3 wings on bear max contracts +kemba...Hayward should be traded in a 3 ways that lands Drummond in Boston.

I saw a report that pistons were only asking for Julius Randle and .. I forget. Someone else not good. Now that makes sense.

And of course, Knicks would be KNicks and would give him a max 5 year deal.

[CeltsfaninDC]

We all know Kemba, Smart, Jaylen, Tatum & Hayward are off limits.
Can we be more realistic with our trade ideas ?

Why is Hayward off limits? There are so many ??? with him. Health, contract, opt outs. I love how he’s playing but he’s not immovable by any means. The kids are a different story since they are either locked up long term or will be

Rumors have been out there that the Celtics are not moving any of their core pieces and yes Hayward is a core piece.

Two, the Celtics have shown no interest in trading any of their five high-profile perimeter players (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward and Marcus Smart), and they are the only players on the team making more than $5 million per season.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28441623/how-nba-race-2-seed-east-playoffs-decided

I think there are some issues with him though that are not present with the others. He can opt out at the end of the year. They’re all locked in for years. He is the only one of them that IS able to be traded unless you assume there is zero percent chance that he opts out. I have no idea one way or the other, but if he’s even thinking about signing somewhere else you definitely consider him for trades now

[MagicBagley18]

It literally says exactly what I think it says, right there in black and white.

You were wrong, it’s okay.

Doc said he was the best facilitator on the team. The roster didn't have a PG. Gallo was the best option, doesn't mean he is good.

You were wrong

Not what it says whatsoever. Reading comprehension surely is a problem for you, huh?

And the team certainly had PGs in Beverly and SGA, so just more nonsense from you...

Again, you were completely wrong. Trying to move the goal posts to fit your narrative doesn’t change a thing, but it’s hilarious watching you try to dig yourself out of the hole you created.

I’ll join him in that hole. Gallo as a piece off the bench on a championship contender? sure. He’d be great in that role. Relying on him as a huge piece as a contender? no thanks. Kick rocks gallo. he can’t and never displayed the ability to run an offense like Hayward has.

[BigTrade92]

Doc said he was the best facilitator on the team. The roster didn't have a PG. Gallo was the best option, doesn't mean he is good.

You were wrong

Not what it says whatsoever. Reading comprehension surely is a problem for you, huh?

And the team certainly had PGs in Beverly and SGA, so just more nonsense from you...

Again, you were completely wrong. Trying to move the goal posts to fit your narrative doesn’t change a thing, but it’s hilarious watching you try to dig yourself out of the hole you created.

It’s ok to be wrong. Nobody agrees with you, man. Even if you believe still you are right.. good for you! But yeah.. you still gotta throw you’re little angry remarks. Just accept people have a different opinion. Little digs certainly won’t change that. And I don’t know how someone trying to dig themselves out of a hole when everyone agrees with him. You’re in the hole if anyone is.

Hmm, asks for proof that Gallinari is a facilitator and says no one in the world believes he is, gets shown a Doc Rivers quote saying point blank that Gallinari is a facilitator, then tells me I’m wrong and that I’m misinterpreting the quote because they apparently didn’t have a PG?, which was 100% false and a non-sequintur to boot. Hilarious stuff.

I’ve already made my point softie. Doc Rivers agrees with me, as do many other knowledgeable NBA pundits. Do you really think I need or want your approval at all, especially considering the dude you’re agreeing with already ate the crow he served up? And please, do me a favor and go ahead and crawl up into your safe space and hide if these “angry digs” make you feel uncomfortable.

Just accept that Gallinari is a good ball player and that you’re not ready to trade Gordon for a Center. It’ll save you the time and trouble.

You can come find me in May after you recover from the “emotional trauma” you’re apparently going through, when the Celtics get bodied in the playoffs and knocked out for having no big man.

[Curmudgeon]

I'd trade Hayward for Gallo and SGA in a heartbeat. But OKC wouldn't.

[Curmudgeon]

I'd trade Hayward for Gallo and SGA in a heartbeat. But OKC wouldn't.

The hell with Gallo as a facilitator. He's shooting 43% from beyond the arc. I'd want him to shoot, not pass. But aside from durability, Gallo has significant issues at the defensive end.

[Dannyboy36]

Not what it says whatsoever. Reading comprehension surely is a problem for you, huh?

And the team certainly had PGs in Beverly and SGA, so just more nonsense from you...

Again, you were completely wrong. Trying to move the goal posts to fit your narrative doesn’t change a thing, but it’s hilarious watching you try to dig yourself out of the hole you created.

It’s ok to be wrong. Nobody agrees with you, man. Even if you believe still you are right.. good for you! But yeah.. you still gotta throw you’re little angry remarks. Just accept people have a different opinion. Little digs certainly won’t change that. And I don’t know how someone trying to dig themselves out of a hole when everyone agrees with him. You’re in the hole if anyone is.

Hmm, asks for proof that Gallinari is a facilitator and says no one in the world believes he is, gets shown a Doc Rivers quote saying point blank that Gallinari is a facilitator, then tells me I’m wrong and that I’m misinterpreting the quote because they apparently didn’t have a PG?, which was 100% false and a non-sequintur to boot. Hilarious stuff.

I’ve already made my point softie. Doc Rivers agrees with me, as do many other knowledgeable NBA pundits. Do you really think I need or want your approval at all, especially considering the dude you’re agreeing with already ate the crow he served up? And please, do me a favor and go ahead and crawl up into your safe space and hide if these “angry digs” make you feel uncomfortable.

Just accept that Gallinari is a good ball player and that you’re not ready to trade Gordon for a Center. It’ll save you the time and trouble.

You can come find me in May after you recover from the “emotional trauma” you’re apparently going through, when the Celtics get bodied in the playoffs and knocked out for having no big man.

Ok.

[Dannyboy36]

Just in general I like Gallinari. I’d part with Hayward but only in the right deal. The centers I’d like , the other team wouldn’t make the deal. He’s worth too much for Drummond in my opinion. That opinion isn’t meant to upset anyone if it does. The digs don’t hurt my feelings or require a safe space ( oh god I hate political
Buzz words) . But if it makes people feel better, weird but ok. whatever.If Danny makes that trade I’ll hope for the best though. I’ve been wrong before. I didn’t think Sabonis would be a player of this note. It’s not hard to admit. Go C’s.

[MagicBagley18]

Not what it says whatsoever. Reading comprehension surely is a problem for you, huh?

And the team certainly had PGs in Beverly and SGA, so just more nonsense from you...

Again, you were completely wrong. Trying to move the goal posts to fit your narrative doesn’t change a thing, but it’s hilarious watching you try to dig yourself out of the hole you created.

It’s ok to be wrong. Nobody agrees with you, man. Even if you believe still you are right.. good for you! But yeah.. you still gotta throw you’re little angry remarks. Just accept people have a different opinion. Little digs certainly won’t change that. And I don’t know how someone trying to dig themselves out of a hole when everyone agrees with him. You’re in the hole if anyone is.

Hmm, asks for proof that Gallinari is a facilitator and says no one in the world believes he is, gets shown a Doc Rivers quote saying point blank that Gallinari is a facilitator, then tells me I’m wrong and that I’m misinterpreting the quote because they apparently didn’t have a PG?, which was 100% false and a non-sequintur to boot. Hilarious stuff.

I’ve already made my point softie. Doc Rivers agrees with me, as do many other knowledgeable NBA pundits. Do you really think I need or want your approval at all, especially considering the dude you’re agreeing with already ate the crow he served up? And please, do me a favor and go ahead and crawl up into your safe space and hide if these “angry digs” make you feel uncomfortable.

Just accept that Gallinari is a good ball player and that you’re not ready to trade Gordon for a Center. It’ll save you the time and trouble.

You can come find me in May after you recover from the “emotional trauma” you’re apparently going through, when the Celtics get bodied in the playoffs and knocked out for having no big man.

Your argument wasn’t was of he’s good or not- it was if he’s a facilitator or playmaker. Id take gallo tho in a Bench role. Be perfect for the bench on a real contender

[BigTrade92]

Your argument wasn’t was of he’s good or not- it was if he’s a facilitator or playmaker. Id take gallo tho in a Bench role. Be perfect for the bench on a real contender

Of which he is and I’ve got an NBA championship winning coach who agrees with me.

Yes he would be perfect on the bench and let’s leave it at that. This debate has ran it’s course.

[31to6]

Your argument wasn’t was of he’s good or not- it was if he’s a facilitator or playmaker. Id take gallo tho in a Bench role. Be perfect for the bench on a real contender

Of which he is and I’ve got an NBA championship winning coach who agrees with me.

Yes he would be perfect on the bench and let’s leave it at that. This debate has ran it’s course.

Yeah Doc Rivers has never inflated one of his own player’s value or abilities before.

You should address the fact that Gallo averages 2apg and has a career assist % of 10%, which is the same as Jaylen Brown, who, if Doc coached him, may get called a facilitator, when he actually isn’t.

[Floody100]

I really hope we grab Bertans soon. Could see a team like Philly trying to grab him.

[Fencer reregistered]

I really hope we grab Bertans soon. Could see a team like Philly trying to grab him.

I'd be willing to send Semi, Edwards, Poirier and our worst first round pick. That would open two roster spots for buyout guys or, less desirably, converting our two-way guys to regular contracts a year early. And if it didn't work out we wouldn't have sacrificed all THAT much.

Of course, this assumes Danny thinks there's a good chance he'll want to pay up to resign the guy.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Your argument wasn’t was of he’s good or not- it was if he’s a facilitator or playmaker. Id take gallo tho in a Bench role. Be perfect for the bench on a real contender

Of which he is and I’ve got an NBA championship winning coach who agrees with me.

Yes he would be perfect on the bench and let’s leave it at that. This debate has ran it’s course.

Yeah Doc Rivers has never inflated one of his own player’s value or abilities before.

You should address the fact that Gallo averages 2apg and has a career assist % of 10%, which is the same as Jaylen Brown, who, if Doc coached him, may get called a facilitator, when he actually isn’t.

Did you know every center Doc has coached in LA is a DPOY type