Jaylen Brown Thread

[TatumMVP]

If I’m starting a team I’m taking Tatum and KP over Jaylen, no question. And even at his age, I would consider taking Jrue as well. I think White is an all-around better player than Jaylen but Jaylen is levels above White as a pure scorer. Yeah idk. I think a legit argument can be made that Jaylen is indeed our 4th best player. Hell, if White plays consistently all year anything resembling tonight you could argue he’s our 5th best player. I’ve never been a Jaylen fan. Too many holes in his game. Especially for a supermax player. But we have him now so we need him to be the best version of Jaylen this year. It’s championship or bust.

White is at best a 14 ppg guy. I love the guy but let’s be real.

White fits into a team concept much better than Brown. In a vacuum Brown is better. He would surely put up better stats than White on a non playoff team.

Jaylen is the best player from his draft class, just Murray is his level.

[JaMarco]

White is at best a 14 ppg guy. I love the guy but let’s be real.

White fits into a team concept much better than Brown. In a vacuum Brown is better. He would surely put up better stats than White on a non playoff team.

Jaylen is the best player from his draft class, just Murray is his level.

Sabonis/Ingram

[sam_I_am]

Sorry, Sam.
I would move him & his undeserved obscene salary for the right package including a quality starter + much needed DEPTH in less than a millisecond, & for Biid in a millimicronanosecond.
I totally agree with BK_2020 & MANY MANY OTHERS.
While he is here, I want 7 to play to his UNDENIABLE elite offensive strengths, & minimize his truly awful basketball instincts, guaranteed obligatory & excessive brain dead TOs, ball handling, guaranteed brain dead D periodically, & too often selfishness (1 on 3 nightmares) & excessive shooting. He ain’t changing in his eighth year. Let him go & fail to be a 1A or 2 on another team. (And then he can run for Congress & team up w the Squad or become a professional boxer or a synchronized underwater Olympic swimmer partnered with Doris Burke).

DWhite & Jrue I are literally invaluable additions & gems.
JT occasionally plays selfishly & too sloppily, but he has clearly demonstrated he is an All World baller on BOTH ends. I love that he apparently FINALLY spent teaching time with Truth last summer & is so much stronger now.
Zinger is a great fit as well.
We need depth.
Al is very limited now & Pritch/Hauser are not rotation players on a NBA Championship team.

It’s okay. Everyone can have their opinion. It just so happens that the people who matter - Brad, Wyc etc. - happen to share my opinion. As far as Porzingas being the second best player…..look at what Bam did to him in a meaningless game and imagine the playoffs. KP is a great addition and brings an element that we haven’t had….but make no mistake, come playoff time the pecking order will be JT, JB, Holiday and then KP and White.

[sam_I_am]

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[steefP2]

Regardless of anything else; 30-35 mil is not even a normal max. Get with the new cap guys; a normal, non supermax, max is around 45 annual average value.

Also Jaylen IS earning 31 mil this year so everyone should be happy ! He’s waiting to the take the mvp leap when he’s actually earning the 47 mil duh.

[BrianFitz]

White is at best a 14 ppg guy. I love the guy but let’s be real.

White fits into a team concept much better than Brown. In a vacuum Brown is better. He would surely put up better stats than White on a non playoff team.

Jaylen is the best player from his draft class, just Murray is his level.

You could probably add Sabonis in there as well. But that doesn't really refute what I said.

[ajones9219]

JB was given his market value. Every team in the league would have offered that contract because that was the price and he's a star player and top 17-25 player in the league (consensus by national media rankings). I get that this board is called realgm but the armchair executives on this site acting like they'd just sign JB to half his value and he'd accept that, or trade him for bums like Trae Young are peak level delusional and make me happy we have a competent front office running the team.

Accept it or not, we aren't winning a title this year without JB, Tatum likes JB and we aren't splitting them up. We paid him what his market value was and the team clearly values him as a max guy. End of story.

[BK_2020]

JB was given his market value. Every team in the league would have offered that contract because that was the price and he's a star player and top 17-25 player in the league (consensus by national media rankings). I get that this board is called realgm but the armchair executives on this site acting like they'd just sign JB to half his value and he'd accept that, or trade him for bums like Trae Young are peak level delusional and make me happy we have a competent front office running the team.

Accept it or not, we aren't winning a title this year without JB, Tatum likes JB and we aren't splitting them up. We paid him what his market value was and the team clearly values him as a max guy. End of story.

Market value in a market constrained by the CBA, maybe. Even then I don't think we give him a supermax if we were not close to winning it all.

[ajones9219]

JB was given his market value. Every team in the league would have offered that contract because that was the price and he's a star player and top 17-25 player in the league (consensus by national media rankings). I get that this board is called realgm but the armchair executives on this site acting like they'd just sign JB to half his value and he'd accept that, or trade him for bums like Trae Young are peak level delusional and make me happy we have a competent front office running the team.

Accept it or not, we aren't winning a title this year without JB, Tatum likes JB and we aren't splitting them up. We paid him what his market value was and the team clearly values him as a max guy. End of story.

Market value in a market constrained by the CBA, maybe. Even then I don't think we give him a supermax if we were not close to winning it all.

Market value is determined by the current state of the NBA, yes. I think we give him the contract either way because it helps keep Tatum (not that I think he leaves regardless but better to keep him happy and there wasn't a better use of the money)

[cl2117]

It was a necessary evil. People need to get over it.

This team is stacked, young and signed long-term. Enjoy the ride.

[BK_2020]

It was a necessary evil. People need to get over it.

This team is stacked, young and signed long-term. Enjoy the ride.

There's no such thing as enjoying the ride in today's NBA. This isn't the 80s when the Lakers could lock up Magic to a 25 year contract. Only players signed past 2025 off-season are Jaylen, Kristaps, Pritchard and Walsh. We could lose Jrue and Horford after this season. Brad should and almost surely is thinking about what the team looks like in 2024 and 2025 seasons, which includes the long-term future of Jaylen's contract.

[cl2117]

It was a necessary evil. People need to get over it.

This team is stacked, young and signed long-term. Enjoy the ride.

There's no such thing as enjoying the ride in today's NBA. This isn't the 80s when the Lakers could lock up Magic to a 25 year contract. Only players signed past 2025 off-season are Jaylen, Kristaps, Pritchard and Walsh. We could lose Jrue and Horford after this season. Brad should and almost surely is thinking about what the team looks like in 2024 and 2025 seasons, which includes the long-term future of Jaylen's contract.

Tatum is a lock to stay because of the supermax, so you've got 3 of your top 4 guys locked up for at least the next three years and all still in their 20's.

Jrue came here with the intention of signing an extension, but just hasn't due to restrictions on when he can actually do it due to the trade. White is already talking extension and this week has said talks were going well and he wants to stay here long-term (probably won't happen until the summer). Both of those seem likely if ownership doesn't get cheap.

That'll keep us stacked through at least the next 3 seasons, and if Jrue/White extend 4/5 for the next 5 or so years, which is about as good as you can hope for in the modern NBA.

We can't even trade Jaylen until the summer anyway. It 100% is time to enjoy the ride and just pray we stay healthy.

[BK_2020]

It was a necessary evil. People need to get over it.

This team is stacked, young and signed long-term. Enjoy the ride.

There's no such thing as enjoying the ride in today's NBA. This isn't the 80s when the Lakers could lock up Magic to a 25 year contract. Only players signed past 2025 off-season are Jaylen, Kristaps, Pritchard and Walsh. We could lose Jrue and Horford after this season. Brad should and almost surely is thinking about what the team looks like in 2024 and 2025 seasons, which includes the long-term future of Jaylen's contract.

Tatum is a lock to stay because of the supermax, so you've got 3 of your top 4 guys locked up for at least the next three years and all still in their 20's.

Jrue came here with the intention of signing an extension, but just hasn't due to restrictions on when he can actually do it due to the trade. White is already talking extension and this week has said talks were going well and he wants to stay here long-term (probably won't happen until the summer). Both of those seem likely if ownership doesn't get cheap.

That'll keep us stacked through at least the next 3 seasons, and if Jrue/White extend 4/5 for the next 5 or so years, which is about as good as you can hope for in the modern NBA.

We can't even trade Jaylen until the summer anyway. It 100% is time to enjoy the ride and just pray we stay healthy.

Well we can still speculate on the 3rd big and the Grant TPE.

[keevsnick1]

Well, Celtics ownership clearly didn't think so.

[steefP2]

He currently earns the 4th highest on the team

[jfs1000d]

If I’m starting a team I’m taking Tatum and KP over Jaylen, no question. And even at his age, I would consider taking Jrue as well. I think White is an all-around better player than Jaylen but Jaylen is levels above White as a pure scorer. Yeah idk. I think a legit argument can be made that Jaylen is indeed our 4th best player. Hell, if White plays consistently all year anything resembling tonight you could argue he’s our 5th best player. I’ve never been a Jaylen fan. Too many holes in his game. Especially for a supermax player. But we have him now so we need him to be the best version of Jaylen this year. It’s championship or bust.

Only problem with that is most gms are taking brown.


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[jfs1000d]

I can’t take this thread. Tatum is best player. Brown is No. 2 and a high level shooter and scorers why we gotta argue this is nuts.

After that, KP is a fringe all-star type while Derrick White and Jru Holiday are about as good as you can be without being all stars.

The team is loaded 1-5. Just enjoy. Brown is all nba. He is better an more valuable than any player on the roster not Tatum.


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[jfs1000d]

I clearly stated Jaylen is levels above him in scoring

You clearly said White is better than Brown and I couldn’t disagree more. The market ($300 million contract) and the NBA coaches/players/fans (all-star/all-NBA) agree with me. Your opinion is just not sane. Sorry.

Yes I think White is better than Jaylen in pretty much everything other than scoring. You saying that White tops out at 14ppg means less than nothing.

White is better at everything than Brown but scoring. But scoring is name of the game. Lol. One of these skills is more valuable than all the others combined


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[Objectivity]

I can’t take this thread. Tatum is best player. Brown is No. 2 and a high level shooter and scorers why we gotta argue this is nuts.

After that, KP is a fringe all-star type while Derrick White and Jru Holiday are about as good as you can be without being all stars.

The team is loaded 1-5. Just enjoy. Brown is all nba. He is better an more valuable than any player on the roster not Tatum.


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The team as presently constructed has no chance of winning without KP or Tatum. The team still has a chance of winning without Jaylen.

KP and Tatum are the most valuable. It’s not close. JB is NOT a better player than Jrue, Tatum, KP, or White.

Shooting more shots does not make you a better player.
It makes you selfish and low IQ when jack shots at the expense of setting up your teammates for wide open layups.

JB got voted all NBA because it’s a media award that he openly campaigned for and openly gunned for by playing ME basketball all season.

If Jaylen got drafted to the Knicks and KP drafted to the Celtics you would never compare the two. Jaylen Brown is not even better than players like Ingram or Young. He just got drafted to a better franchise.

A true Jaylen Brown lead team would not make the playoffs. Shooting more and playing outside of the team does not make you a better player. It just makes you selfish.

Did Jimmy shoot a lot last game? No? Does anybody really think Brown is a better player?

I hope not.

[sam_I_am]

I can’t take this thread. Tatum is best player. Brown is No. 2 and a high level shooter and scorers why we gotta argue this is nuts.

After that, KP is a fringe all-star type while Derrick White and Jru Holiday are about as good as you can be without being all stars.

The team is loaded 1-5. Just enjoy. Brown is all nba. He is better an more valuable than any player on the roster not Tatum.


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I agree. I understand many don’t like him…..but to keep perpetuating this dialog as if the debate wasn’t settled when he made all-NBA and signed his supermax is silly.

Durant’s 8 TO game against LA and Lillard’s 6 TO 2-12 performance in only 29 min. against Hawks tonight shows the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere. JB is our guy like it or not, how about we move on.