Trade Ideas Thread

GreenMachine · Post #1781 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:09 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:Why not offer a late clippers pick and a 2nd rounder for MCW. He's cheap and those picks aren't really all that valuable.

Um... because Philly would simply say no. MCW isn't so great... but if that were the cost lots of teams (Hello Miami) would be all over him...

GreenMachine · Post #1782 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:12 am

campybatman wrote:In my opinion, Bradley isn't worth his current salary, and Ainge has a tendency to overvalue some of his players. Players, such as Bass, Green and Bradley, were overpaid. That is, the market should've dictated their worth, not Ainge. That's why I was surprised by the salary each player got. Especially, the Green and Bradley contracts.

Did you see what Parsons is getting paid? And how not good he is? Green isn't overpaid.

J-Ves · Post #1783 » by **J-Ves** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:12 am

Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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GreenMachine · Post #1784 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:25 am

J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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Not even close. A lot of people here would be happy to move Sully... but not for a late 20s 1st and a late 50s 2nd. Plus... we already own your 2015 2nd. LOL!

JohnB · Post #1785 » by **JohnB** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:06 am

J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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Hard to say. Maybe something for a future first with protections on it so it would likely be a mid to late lotto pick down the road. I think Ainge would do that if he doesn't see Sully making a leap forward. What would the filer be?

J-Ves · Post #1786 » by **J-Ves** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:30 am

JohnB wrote:Hard to say. Maybe something for a future first with protections on it so it would likely be a mid to late lotto pick down the road. I think Ainge would do that if he doesn't see Sully making a leap forward. What would the filer be?

I would like to send Seraphins expiring deal but the salaries dont match(Seraphin makes 3.9M). Blair could also be had, hes signed cheaply through the next 3 years with the third year a team option, but I doubt you guys want to add salary. So in all likely hood it would be Drew Goodens expiring deal.

Would the 2016 1st be preferred?

GreenMachine wrote:Not even close. A lot of people here would be happy to move Sully... but not for a late 20s 1st and a late 50s 2nd. Plus... we already own your 2015 2nd. LOL!

Oops! better make that 2016 2nd.

Chris4Vikes · Post #1787 » by **Chris4Vikes** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:59 am

J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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No, but for that kid from Georgetown perhaps.

aim2please · Post #1788 » by **aim2please** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:18 pm

J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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We're not selling our young guys on rookie contracts. But if you want Bass, Thornton and/or Turner call 888-VETS-FOR-SALE now and you may get a bought out veteran like Prince for free.

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Valid · Post #1789 » by **Valid** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:39 pm

J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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Absolutely not. I'm not sure why you would want to deal for Sully or another big, anyway. You have a ridiculously deep frontcourt.

KJandHondo35 · Post #1790 » by **KJandHondo35** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:46 pm

Say no to Stauskas...

As some have said, maybe try and pry away McLemore with Sully or something. But, not Nik, do not trade for the guy nobody in the Kings organization wanted except the crazy owner saying "Nik Rocks!" To himself like a weirdo.

Valid · Post #1791 » by **Valid** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:48 pm

KJandHondo35 wrote:Say no to Stauskas...

As some have said, maybe try and pry away McLemore with Sully or something. But, not Nik, do not trade for the guy nobody in the Kings organization wanted except the crazy owner saying "Nik Rocks!" To himself like a weirdo.

Yeah. I'm not understanding the Stauskas love, either. I think the guy is a bum.

brackdan70 · Post #1792 » by **brackdan70** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:01 pm

J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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No way......and has been pointed out Wiz already traded their 2nd.
Sully is worth a mid round 1st round pick or an equivalent player...I don't think he is on the block. If he would get traded I would think it would be part of a larger trade that makes the Cs better long term.
I don't think the Wiz are a realistic trade partner for Sully. would take Vonleh and a first IMO.

Post #1793 » by **Slartibartfast** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:14 pm

Valid wrote:
KJandHondo35 wrote:Say no to Stauskas...

As some have said, maybe try and pry away McLemore with Sully or something. But, not Nik, do not trade for the guy nobody in the Kings organization wanted except the crazy owner saying "Nik Rocks!" To himself like a weirdo.

Yeah. I'm not understanding the Stauskas love, either. I think the guy is a bum.

He's certainly had a terrible start to his rookie year, but I still love his skillset. Not too many 2-guard prospects with elite shooting potential (on and off the ball) to go along with pick and roll ballhandling and passing skills.

I think he's actually a better fit for this roster than McLemore, who even with big strides as a spot-up shooter and defender this year, is still a guy who doesn't have the ball skills to create for himself or others.

Valid · Post #1794 » by **Valid** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:21 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
Valid wrote:
KJandHondo35 wrote:Say no to Stauskas...

As some have said, maybe try and pry away McLemore with Sully or something. But, not Nik, do not trade for the guy nobody in the Kings organization wanted except the crazy owner saying "Nik Rocks!" To himself like a weirdo.

Yeah. I'm not understanding the Stauskas love, either. I think the guy is a bum.

He's certainly had a terrible start to his rookie year, but I still love his skillset. Not too many 2-guard prospects with elite shooting potential (on and off the ball) to go along with pick and roll ballhandling and passing skills.

I think he's actually a better fit for this roster than McLemore, who even with big strides as a spot-up shooter and defender this year, is still a guy who doesn't have the ball skills to create for himself or others.

Fair enough, but I am certainly not a fan of parting with Sullinger for Stauskas.

Post #1795 » by **Slartibartfast** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Valid wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Valid wrote:Yeah. I'm not understanding the Stauskas love, either. I think the guy is a bum.

He's certainly had a terrible start to his rookie year, but I still love his skillset. Not too many 2-guard prospects with elite shooting potential (on and off the ball) to go along with pick and roll ballhandling and passing skills.

I think he's actually a better fit for this roster than McLemore, who even with big strides as a spot-up shooter and defender this year, is still a guy who doesn't have the ball skills to create for himself or others.

Fair enough, but I am certainly not a fan of parting with Sullinger for Stauskas.

Yeah, trading a 13/8 guy for a guy averaging under 4ppg never sounds good, but I think I could be talked into it. Sully's only on the rookie scale for one more year, and with his weight/health issues, I'm not in love with idea of paying him his money. That and I like KO just a little bit better long-term: doesn't have Sully's toughness, rebounding or instincts, but he's got fewer physical red flags and a lot of offensive potential. Plus an extra year on the rookie scale.

Stauskas was a reach at #8 but he is still a late lotto talent that could fit really well with Smart.

Smart/Stauskas/AB is a nice 3-guard rotation if/when Stauskas regains his touch as a shooter.

underneathtoDJ · Post #1796 » by **underneathtoDJ** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:27 pm

I'm having trouble talking myself into a deal centered around Stauskas for Sully.

The best deal I can come up with is Stauskas, D. Williams, 2017 1st for Sully, Thornton.

They get upgrades this season at SG and PF, C's get another pick and some interesting pieces. Stauskas could bring needed outside shooting to our back court and Danny can decide whether or not to extend a QO to Williams at the end of the year or let him walk to free up even more cap space (or use him in a S&T at the end of the year to bring back additional assets).

But even then, I'm not a huge fan of the move.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1797 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:50 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
Ed Pinkney wrote:Bass for Stauskas? Might not fit what the Kings are looking for.

Olynyk for Stauskas? Is OIynyk too much to give up for Stauskas on his own? Is it too early to give up on Olynyk (probably). Olynyk and two second rounders for Stauskas and a first rounder?

Why not Bass? He's not a 3-point shooter but he can consistently his from 20. And he plays defense and is a solid veteran for a team trying to make a move. Meanwhile, I'd love to get Stauskas and see if there's anything there.

Bass and the worst of our 2016 first-rounders. We need to trade picks away more than we need to get them. But I don't care enought to check salary matches.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1798 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:08 pm

JohnB wrote:
J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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Hard to say. Maybe something for a future first with protections on it so it would likely be a mid to late lotto pick down the road. I think Ainge would do that if he doesn't see Sully making a leap forward. What would the filer be?

Sully is 22 and already top ten in his position at rebounds. I hate talking trades because people always overate their own players(Boston fans especially), but I look at other teams boards and they've suggested trading for Sully. Wizards fans want to offer a late first and a expiring, and Toronto fans think offering Ross(who they think shouldn't even start) is a over pay. Celtic fans have no patients, he was a steal at where we drafted him. I admit I thought his stats would go up and his weight would go down this year, but he's still immature and has a lot of time to improve. Danny wouldn't move him unless he was making out on the deal.Porter would have to be involve, and I don't think the Wizards want to move him. Celtics fans need to give Sully till the end of the year, with Green gone he'll get a lot more touches, and his shooting% has improved since last.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1799 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:15 pm

I find it funny how much better Smart is shooting com deep then Nick, I don't think Sac is going to find the value they want in a trade for him. Bass and the Clippers pick is all I would offer, we still have no clue if his game will translate yet.

JohnB · Post #1800 » by **JohnB** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:48 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
JohnB wrote:
J-Ves wrote:Wiz fan here. Would you do:
2015 first+ 2015 2nd+ exp. filler
For
Sully

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Hard to say. Maybe something for a future first with protections on it so it would likely be a mid to late lotto pick down the road. I think Ainge would do that if he doesn't see Sully making a leap forward. What would the filer be?

Sully is 22 and already top ten in his position at rebounds. I hate talking trades because people always overate their own players(Boston fans especially), but I look at other teams boards and they've suggested trading for Sully. Wizards fans want to offer a late first and a expiring, and Toronto fans think offering Ross(who they think shouldn't even start) is a over pay. Celtic fans have no patients, he was a steal at where we drafted him. I admit I thought his stats would go up and his weight would go down this year, but he's still immature and has a lot of time to improve. Danny wouldn't move him unless he was making out on the deal.Porter would have to be involve, and I don't think the Wizards want to move him. Celtics fans need to give Sully till the end of the year, with Green gone he'll get a lot more touches, and his shooting% has improved since last.

It's not that Sully is bad, its just that he's not going to turn into a star.