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yeahM8 wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I'm just wondering what's going to happen during the game when Theis gets 2 fouls in the first 30 seconds and Williams isn't available because his hip is bothering him.
U pass it to baynes in the corner for 3
Green89 wrote:BigTrade92 wrote:The guy is an Indiana beat guy who worked at the Athletic and probably is tuned in with Pritchard.
To try and discredit Agness yet give props to Gary Washburn is hypocritical.
Ainge blew this. There really isn’t any other scenarios at this stage.
Nothing points more to this being a Danny blown deal rather than a Hayward decision than this tweet:
The extending the opt in deadline, the waiting until Saturday to sign with Charlotte, the many reports of Hayward absolutely asking to be in Indy. All this points to Danny, so his supporters need to drop the "it was Hayward's decision and he was taking the money" theories, as they aren't nearly as obvious or supported as what everything is really pointing at happened here.
reload141 wrote:BigTrade92 wrote:Serious question for all those who are still “Team Ainge”
What moves can he still make that you would consider an improvement for this team and a step towards title contention?
No joke, I’m genuinely interested in hearing what the opposite side of the fanbase has to say.
I'll give this a shot.
If we go back to where it started we went all in to get Kyrie and lure AD here... now Kyrie has his issues but we knew we had to get him if we were a chance to get AD.
Fast forward: Kyrie decided nah screw this plan I'm going to Brooklyn. Tanked his value and then when we didn't go all in on an AD rental even though AD reiterated he wanted to only go to the Lakers and there was no other choice.
Horford - Completely blindsided, Philly came in hard with a big offer and they were considered a contender, Al took the money. I'll put this on Ainge and ownership a bit though I mean you can't just lose him for nothing, so they pivoted and signed Kemba and got creative to do so.
We lost Kyrie, Horford, Morris, Rozier, Baynes and gained Kemba, Kanter, Langford, Gwill.
Look at that talent discrepancy.
Look how far we went into the playoffs.
Now absolutely Ainge should've upgraded the bench, and I fully believe if Hayward doesn't get injured we take Miami and face the Lakers and Ainge 100% should've done more with the bench especially at the trade deadline.
We just lost Hayward, another Horford style signing where a team comes in hot with max money and he secures the bag. Were we talking to Indy? For sure we were, ultimately it's Hayward's decision and we don't know the intricate details here of what was discussed with all parties involved.
If Ainge was asking a ridiculous amount for the S&T for Hayward he absolutely should be held accountable. You wait too long and Charlotte gets turned down by Harrell and then they either up their current offer or come in with their best offer and you lose him for nothing. I don't know the truth and hope that it does come out at some point.
Now you absolutely have to play Langford/RWill/Gwill/Nesmith to find what you have in those guys... there is no "Well we can pivot and sign player X and stay in the hunt"
We have to sign some Vets with the remaining money for sure to shore up the bench but the absolute goal should be internal development with the young guys now and then moving Kemba next offseason and freeing up a Max slot.
yeahM8 wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I'm just wondering what's going to happen during the game when Theis gets 2 fouls in the first 30 seconds and Williams isn't available because his hip is bothering him.
U pass it to baynes in the corner for 3
Celts17Pride wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I'm just wondering what's going to happen during the game when Theis gets 2 fouls in the first 30 seconds and Williams isn't available because his hip is bothering him.
Tacko Time
Darth Celtic wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Darth Celtic wrote:Oh. And also reported on election night trump won. Then they kept counting.
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Perhaps he goes to Indy for $15-20m less, if Ainge didn't try to gut the roster.
ok, would you rather work with a good team at work, or make 20m more. I'm waiting for you to say you would give up 20m. Unless it's a championship, which neither pacers or hornets have a shot at, you dont walk away from 20m.
Almost no players do.
StojkoVrankovic wrote:Green89 wrote:BigTrade92 wrote:The guy is an Indiana beat guy who worked at the Athletic and probably is tuned in with Pritchard.
To try and discredit Agness yet give props to Gary Washburn is hypocritical.
Ainge blew this. There really isn’t any other scenarios at this stage.
Nothing points more to this being a Danny blown deal rather than a Hayward decision than this tweet:
The extending the opt in deadline, the waiting until Saturday to sign with Charlotte, the many reports of Hayward absolutely asking to be in Indy. All this points to Danny, so his supporters need to drop the "it was Hayward's decision and he was taking the money" theories, as they aren't nearly as obvious or supported as what everything is really pointing at happened here.
Gary Washburn wouldn't be able to break news about what he is eating for dinner. Imagine dying on that hill
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Darth Celtic wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Perhaps he goes to Indy for $15-20m less, if Ainge didn't try to gut the roster.
ok, would you rather work with a good team at work, or make 20m more. I'm waiting for you to say you would give up 20m. Unless it's a championship, which neither pacers or hornets have a shot at, you dont walk away from 20m.
Almost no players do.
Reports are saying he wanted to go to Indy, man. I'd take $20 million less to stay in CA. Got no interest in working in a flyover state. LOL.
Scarletfire81 wrote:R9ndo wrote:What are we **** doing? Ainge really have no back up plan?
I mean if no one wants to come here, what can Ainge do?
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I'm just wondering what's going to happen during the game when Theis gets 2 fouls in the first 30 seconds and Williams isn't available because his hip is bothering him.
StojkoVrankovic wrote:Green89 wrote:BigTrade92 wrote:The guy is an Indiana beat guy who worked at the Athletic and probably is tuned in with Pritchard.
To try and discredit Agness yet give props to Gary Washburn is hypocritical.
Ainge blew this. There really isn’t any other scenarios at this stage.
Nothing points more to this being a Danny blown deal rather than a Hayward decision than this tweet:
The extending the opt in deadline, the waiting until Saturday to sign with Charlotte, the many reports of Hayward absolutely asking to be in Indy. All this points to Danny, so his supporters need to drop the "it was Hayward's decision and he was taking the money" theories, as they aren't nearly as obvious or supported as what everything is really pointing at happened here.
Gary Washburn wouldn't be able to break news about what he is eating for dinner. Imagine dying on that hill
Green89 wrote:StojkoVrankovic wrote:Green89 wrote:
Nothing points more to this being a Danny blown deal rather than a Hayward decision than this tweet:
The extending the opt in deadline, the waiting until Saturday to sign with Charlotte, the many reports of Hayward absolutely asking to be in Indy. All this points to Danny, so his supporters need to drop the "it was Hayward's decision and he was taking the money" theories, as they aren't nearly as obvious or supported as what everything is really pointing at happened here.
Gary Washburn wouldn't be able to break news about what he is eating for dinner. Imagine dying on that hill
Just too many other sources reporting the Pacers and Celtics were working on a S&T to really discount Washburn that much here. Even sources here, Woj, everyone reporting they were working in the deal all week. If you think something different happened, let's hear it.
Darth Celtic wrote:StojkoVrankovic wrote:Green89 wrote:
Nothing points more to this being a Danny blown deal rather than a Hayward decision than this tweet:
The extending the opt in deadline, the waiting until Saturday to sign with Charlotte, the many reports of Hayward absolutely asking to be in Indy. All this points to Danny, so his supporters need to drop the "it was Hayward's decision and he was taking the money" theories, as they aren't nearly as obvious or supported as what everything is really pointing at happened here.
Gary Washburn wouldn't be able to break news about what he is eating for dinner. Imagine dying on that hill
whatever they need to fit the narative. I mean, they have to blame somebody on our team, it can't just be the Hornets being the dumbest franchise this offseason.
BigTrade92 wrote:Serious question for all those who are still “Team Ainge”
What moves can he still make that you would consider an improvement for this team and a step towards title contention?
No joke, I’m genuinely interested in hearing what the opposite side of the fanbase has to say.
