Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[bucknersrevenge]

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Redick in Boston would be HUGE for us

Naturally, we will not get either.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Would love to get Adams from New Orleans, with Lonzo as a sweetener for taking his money. Not sure if there’s a way to make it work, but Adams is like Baynes on steroids, and Lonzo, who’s due for restricted free agency and could get a big offer, still has Jason Kidd level upside.

[Bohemian]

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[Justin33]

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JJ Redick too

He might be cooked He's looked terrible

[Andrew McCeltic]

Reddick is 36.

[Squigglepuffin]

Harrison Barnes???

That's a terrible idea tbh. Don't succumb to group-think.

There are players on cheaper non-rookie contracts who can give you at least close to as much as harrison barnes.

The guy is no where, and I mean NO WHERE close to being worth the contract he's on.

Treating the idea of trading for Barnes as if its a good idea is to me one fuelled by some degree of desperation. How high a degree I'm not sure but emotion is clearly clouding logic.

Barnes is not a guy that puts us over the top.

You might say, "But he's the only one we have a realistic chance of aquiring."

His salary would cripple us long term and imo he doesn't really move the needle. Its a move we would come to regret.

If the only way we can improve the roster this season is by aquiring a mediocre player on a bloated contract and as far as I'm aware a contract that lasts for another 2 seasons (bad) its best to just suck it up, accept the roster can't be improved this season and just roll with the guys we've got.

A big selling point of Barnes is that his salary wouldn't cripple the team. He's under contract for 2 more years after this one, so he's a FA in 2023 along with Kemba. Which, as you've probably heard, is the pivotal offeason with regard to the Jays, and only time that the Celtics could potentially participate in Free Agency.

So yeah, you don't have the option to "just suck it up" and not use the TPE, which is your only avenue to add to the team. You have to find a veteran who can improve the team's competitive prospects, and hope that internal improvement does the rest. "Sucking it up" is a major risk to take. If the team doesn't get better, then Brown and/or Tatum leave to play somewhere else. And you can raise a banner that says DIDN'T OVERPAY A VETERAN FROM 2021-2023.

Tatum and Brown might leave if we can't get better. True.

Barnes doesn't really improve the team (he's a net neutral on the court at best) so he doesn't increase the chances of JT & JB staying unless he's getting aquired to then be fipped in a different deal.

Barnes is not the acquisition that's the difference between a championship and no championship. He's not even close to good enough as a player to be what James posey was for us.

Barnes is not 2021 James Posey.

He hasn't improved any team he's been on. Go talk to their fanbases (although I'm sure there will be some Kings fans with homer glasses on right now because he's currently with them).

He doesn't address the biggest need the team has - quality bigs.

If you want an acquisition that's much more helpful and fits in the TPE ask what we would have to give up for Kyle Anderson + an expiring Dieng from Memphis.

Even Anderson himself is at least as good (imo better) as Barnes at more than half the price.

Our bench sucks. If we seriously want to win this year or next year we need to acquire more than one quality role player with that TPE.

We need to aquire more than one player with the TPE, and one of those players has to be a big.

[Bohemian]

Reddick is 36.

Precisely. Our bench is way too young. We need some vets

[keevsnick1]

Reddick is 36.

Precisely. Our bench is way too young. We need some vets

More importantly he's shooting 33% from the floor and 30% from three. He might just be cooked.

Pass.

[Andrew McCeltic]

It’s too bad Rob Williams isn’t ready to beat out Theis and Thompson for minutes..

[Andrew McCeltic]

If Williams were ready to blow up to Clint Capela level it would solve a lot of problems for us.. I wonder if betting on that was one reason we shied away from Myles Turner..

[bucknersrevenge]

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JJ Redick too

He might be cooked He's looked terrible

FWIW, here's an interesting vid breaking down the Pelicans and how things have gone down. Zion looks awful on D and Zo is apparently spending most of his time off ball which has been way different from what Gentry had him doing apparently. Plus SVG has them playing halfcourt basketball.

[gocelts]

We really need Pritchard, Edwards, or Nesmith to step into the Reddick role. THAT helps us much more. I honestly think right now that Pritchard can get there.

[lon3lytoaster]

No interest in anything on that New Orleans roster. JJ is done, my friends. You don’t need to trade for someone just because they’re a recognizable name.

[fallguy]

No Pelicans.

[BillessuR6]

Waste of TPE to get a guy like Redick. He is 36 and is playing terrible this year... Well, Lonzo might be even worse... No surprise NO wants to get rid of them...

[bucknersrevenge]

I'm not that concerned about whether or not Danny goes after Ball or Reddick. But I do have this pit in my stomach that says if we even make a deal at the deadline it's gonna be for a guy that will leave 75% of Celtic fans scratching their heads like "Really?? What does he even do??" It will be no one obvious if at all. Like, think of the most obscure guy you could imagine us trading for.

We'll get Quinndary Weatherspoon for a future 2nd rounder. Danny will be like "We had this kid high on our radar but we looked around and didn't see anything else we could do."

[jmr07019]

My initial thought was let’s try and buy low on Lonzo but then reading the thread and looking at Lonzo’s stats you are buying REALLY low. I’m all set on any guard who can’t shoot. We really don’t have minutes for him to develop either unless you are benching PP, Nesmith or Romeo

[Andrew McCeltic]

I'm not that concerned about whether or not Danny goes after Ball or Reddick. But I do have this pit in my stomach that says if we even make a deal at the deadline it's gonna be for a guy that will leave 75% of Celtic fans scratching their heads like "Really?? What does he even do??" It will be no one obvious if at all. Like, think of the most obscure guy you could imagine us trading for.

We'll get Quinndary Weatherspoon for a future 2nd rounder. Danny will be like "We had this kid high on our radar but we looked around and didn't see anything else we could do."

We’ll see what happens with the TPE and possible multi-team trades, but.. the only way to set this roster up for the future is a Kemba trade, and we’re already a borderline contender with a lot of young pieces in the rotation getting crucial developmental minutes.. this is probably a year to hold steady.

[Andrew McCeltic]

My initial thought was let’s try and buy low on Lonzo but then reading the thread and looking at Lonzo’s stats you are buying REALLY low. I’m all set on any guard who can’t shoot. We really don’t have minutes for him to develop either unless you are benching PP, Nesmith or Romeo

I’d buy low easily if he wasn’t in the last year of his rookie contract making 11 million..

[MaxwellSmart]

Whatever happened to Kyle Korver?