Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 6, 2023-24

Spotter · Post #1781 » by **Spotter** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:26 pm

captain green wrote:So we can't really do anything with the mle am I correct?

Only TMLE is an option since the Celtics are a tax team. If the Celtics use the TMLE that will hard cap them and the assumption is they don’t want to be hard capped.

chrisab123 · Post #1782 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:26 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Simmons didn't ask to be traded to NY or LA. This is just revisionist history on your part. The only reason he landed in BKN is the Nets needed to dump Harden and that was the guy Philly wanted

No no...Rich Paul came out and said he wanted LA. When LA didn't happen he asked for NY. No revisionist history here. He even used the anxiety excuse to say he needed to be in LA.

Receipts?

Did you take that year off on realgm? Lol. That was pretty much the entire friggin general board with articles quotes etc...

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1783 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:26 pm

You can't cure stupid...

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Post #1784 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:26 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:Why are we even entertaining the Celtics making an offer? He is 1000% not on board coming here. S&T Grant for something and get someone on a short deal that can play defense and just hope for a massive Miami regression. Thats all the Celtics can do now.

KG wasn't 1000% on board coming here.

He wasn't because the Celtics weren't a contender. But he changed his mind once we traded for Ray Allen.

I'm sure Lillard has good reasons for not wanting to come to Boston. Clearly playing for a contender isn't his priority.

BK_2020 · Post #1785 » by **BK_2020** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:27 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:There’s no reason you have to include Brown to get Dame. You can beat Miami’s offer without him. Brogdon, Rob, filler, and like 5 firsts. Brad doesn’t care about FRPs and Rob helps Portland more than Herro.

Dame-White-JB-JT-KP is ridiculous.

The reason is because Dame - Tatum - KP with good role players is a better team than Dame - JB - Tatum - KP with bad role players. What's the point of getting Dame if he's going to sit in a corner staring at Jaylen put on one of his 3 dribble moves while the rest of the team are spectators? Synergy matters.
Plus you can use any FRPs you save to manage the payroll and/or acquire cheap role players going forward.

SLCceltic · Post #1786 » by **SLCceltic** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:27 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
jordb2k7 wrote:
Where was this said?

Tatum must realize that if he's trying to recruit Dame then Brown is likely going to be the guy out the door.

Not that really matters because he's absolutely going to Miami

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Tatum is not recruiting to replace JB. we can put together something around DWhite and Timelord. If Bam is not going to be included then we can put together a Herro level deal with picks players sweetners

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1787 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:30 pm

Get Pat Beverly Sajak...

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ajones9219 · Post #1788 » by **ajones9219** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:30 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:Why are we even entertaining the Celtics making an offer? He is 1000% not on board coming here. S&T Grant for something and get someone on a short deal that can play defense and just hope for a massive Miami regression. Thats all the Celtics can do now.

KG wasn't 1000% on board coming here.

Sure. I believe KG wanted Phoenix and LA. He also started gaining more interest when the Celtics traded for Ray. However, unless Dame is a big Porzingis fan I don't see how that moves the needle for him. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell of selling him on Boston. Weather sucks, nightlife sucks, taxes are high and he can be in paradise in comparison 12 months out of the year and be on a team that just beat Boston. Whats the selling point?

Literally are you a Celtics fan? Go root for an LA/NY team if you love the cities so much.

celticfan42487 · Post #1789 » by **celticfan42487** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:31 pm

SuperDeluxe wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:Why are we even entertaining the Celtics making an offer? He is 1000% not on board coming here. S&T Grant for something and get someone on a short deal that can play defense and just hope for a massive Miami regression. Thats all the Celtics can do now.

KG wasn't 1000% on board coming here.

He wasn't because the Celtics weren't a contender. But he changed his mind once we traded for Ray Allen.

I'm sure Lillard has good reasons for not wanting to come to Boston. Clearly playing for a contender isn't his priority.

Well it isn't like

Dame - Butler - Bam

isn't a contender in it's own right. And he gets to play with his friends, with a nightlife that all stars want.

He gets everything in MIA.

For Boston he has to make a lot of compromises.

Bam was an all-star last year and so was Butler. KP was an all-star way back in 2018, so unless we are beating a Tyler Herro piece in a trade we'd be trading Jaylen Brown and so he'd be playing with 1 all-star instead of 2 in Boston.

The Heat are just better all around for Dame in just about every way. And at worse a push contender wise. Unless you're telling me we're trading KP to the Trailblazers instead of Jaylen Brown. Then we'd have a better big 3 I'd say than them or one he'd have to bet he can win with as our two pieces would be young and not injury prone as he ages.

ajones9219 · Post #1790 » by **ajones9219** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:32 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
No no...Rich Paul came out and said he wanted LA. When LA didn't happen he asked for NY. No revisionist history here. He even used the anxiety excuse to say he needed to be in LA.

Receipts?

Did you take that year off on realgm? Lol. That was pretty much the entire friggin general board with articles quotes etc...

Sooo no receipts then? Again, the 76ers didn't trade Simmons to the Nets to give Simmons what he wanted. They would have just held him until his contract before just giving in to the demand.

chrisab123 · Post #1791 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:32 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:KG wasn't 1000% on board coming here.

Sure. I believe KG wanted Phoenix and LA. He also started gaining more interest when the Celtics traded for Ray. However, unless Dame is a big Porzingis fan I don't see how that moves the needle for him. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell of selling him on Boston. Weather sucks, nightlife sucks, taxes are high and he can be in paradise in comparison 12 months out of the year and be on a team that just beat Boston. Whats the selling point?

Literally are you a Celtics fan? Go root for an LA/NY team if you love the cities so much.

So stating the obvious means im not a Celtics fan? Lol come on. If you want to be delusional and talk yourself into Boston being on the same level as the glamour markets then cool. LA is kind of a **** hole and has high taxes but I guess when you have millions of dollars you get access to places us common folks dont

gdagod10 · Post #1792 » by **gdagod10** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:32 pm

So who can still realistically pay Grant Williams?

Orlando?
San Antonio?

chrisab123 · Post #1793 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:34 pm

gdagod10 wrote:So who can still realistically pay Grant Williams?

Orlando?
San Antonio?

Charlotte

celticfan42487 · Post #1794 » by **celticfan42487** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:34 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:KG wasn't 1000% on board coming here.

Sure. I believe KG wanted Phoenix and LA. He also started gaining more interest when the Celtics traded for Ray. However, unless Dame is a big Porzingis fan I don't see how that moves the needle for him. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell of selling him on Boston. Weather sucks, nightlife sucks, taxes are high and he can be in paradise in comparison 12 months out of the year and be on a team that just beat Boston. Whats the selling point?

Literally are you a Celtics fan? Go root for an LA/NY team if you love the cities so much.

Him being realistic about what obstacles the Celtics face doesn't make him less of a fan.

That's absurd and to think so is at best childish.

ajones9219 · Post #1795 » by **ajones9219** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:35 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
Sure. I believe KG wanted Phoenix and LA. He also started gaining more interest when the Celtics traded for Ray. However, unless Dame is a big Porzingis fan I don't see how that moves the needle for him. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell of selling him on Boston. Weather sucks, nightlife sucks, taxes are high and he can be in paradise in comparison 12 months out of the year and be on a team that just beat Boston. Whats the selling point?

Literally are you a Celtics fan? Go root for an LA/NY team if you love the cities so much.

So stating the obvious means im not a Celtics fan? Lol come on. If you want to be delusional and talk yourself into Boston being on the same level as the glamour markets then cool.

Glamor markets just don't exist in the NBA anymore. When the Lakers were trash they didn't sign anyone. Miami has been irrelevant outside of Butler going there and even then it's not like players were lining up to go there. NBA players team up with players, the city just doesn't matter much anymore.

I just get sick every year of you specifically acting like we can't do anything ever because we don't exist in two cities that for the most part nobody cares about playing for.

celticfan42487 · Post #1796 » by **celticfan42487** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:35 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Get Pat Beverly Sajak...

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Wtf are they talking about.

That's what a coach is for.

Hire a real **** coach for that ****.

Go sign players with talent so we can win a ring.

chrisab123 · Post #1797 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:36 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Literally are you a Celtics fan? Go root for an LA/NY team if you love the cities so much.

So stating the obvious means im not a Celtics fan? Lol come on. If you want to be delusional and talk yourself into Boston being on the same level as the glamour markets then cool.

Glamor markets just don't exist in the NBA anymore. When the Lakers were trash they didn't sign anyone. Miami has been irrelevant outside of Butler going there and even then it's not like players were lining up to go there. NBA players team up with players, the city just doesn't matter much anymore.

They don't? Dame clearly picked Miami and Brooklyn because....I get Miami if you're trying to win but Brooklyn makes no friggin sense under that logic unless if you're trying to be seen.

And am I wrong? The Celtics biggest FA signings of all time are Horford Kemba and Hayward. Brooklyn gets whoever, Miami gets whoever and Lakers get whoever. Trade market is different but as far as FAs go its a different world.

SLCceltic · Post #1798 » by **SLCceltic** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:38 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Get Pat Beverly Sajak...

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What we need most is a 6'9+ defender that can guard 1-4 and dominate offensive and defensive glass

We have this in TLord when he is healthy

CelticsPride18 · Post #1799 » by **CelticsPride18** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:39 pm

SLCceltic wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Get Pat Beverly Sajak...

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What we need most is a 6'9+ defender that can guard 1-4 and dominate offensive and defensive glass

Vincent Valerio Bodon

ajones9219 · Post #1800 » by **ajones9219** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:39 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
So stating the obvious means im not a Celtics fan? Lol come on. If you want to be delusional and talk yourself into Boston being on the same level as the glamour markets then cool.

Glamor markets just don't exist in the NBA anymore. When the Lakers were trash they didn't sign anyone. Miami has been irrelevant outside of Butler going there and even then it's not like players were lining up to go there. NBA players team up with players, the city just doesn't matter much anymore.

They don't? Dame clearly picked Miami and Brooklyn because....I get Miami if you're trying to win but Brooklyn makes no friggin sense under that logic unless if you're trying to be seen

He specifically called out his friends in Bam and Bridges. Miami would also because a contender with him.