Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[brackdan70]

I want Giannis, but no Jays involved, how? Please go heavy on the bucks side since I’m not trying to give up the Jays. Anybody please?

Would need White and Simons to make the money work, then Hugo, 2026 first, 2026 NOP 2nd, 2031 first, and swap rights for 2027 and 2030.
If Minott or Walsh were desired above Hugo then sure.
A competitive offer I would think. Depending on the direction the Bucks want to go maybe White needs to go to another team and salary, a young player and a pick to Bucks….would Houston be in play with FVV, Eason, and a Pick?
So Bucks get FVV and Simons as Salary Ballast, Eason, Hugo, 3 firsts, a top 35 2nd and two swaps.
Rockets get White, Celtics get Giannis.
I think other teams could beat that…but would they? Idk. Might need another cheap player switching to make the money work but that’s about the best I can do.
Edit: if Bucks wanted Queta then I’d think he’s on the table as well.

[djFan71]

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

[CelticFaninLBC]

It doesn't seem like the Celtics value the center spot unless they can shoot and / or guard other spots. I like Zubac but he's just a better version of Queta

I'm still all in on Myles Turner if the Bucks blow it up. PP/White/JB/Tatum/Turner would be elite and a championship contender

Turner would be a nice fit with Boston's style of play. Hauser's likely gone, though, if they want to avoid the luxury tax next year...

I'm guessing the starting point for Turner is similar to Zubac's, with a minimum of 2 FRP's.

[Larry_Russell]

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

You just stick a couple of 3D players out there and keep them out of the way around Giannis, JT and JB.

[Hal14]

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

Yeah if he doesn't have the ball he would just set high screens for whoever does have the ball, then roll to the rim or stay out on the perimeter to reverse the ball, run DHO, make passes to cutters or attack off the dribble if he gets the ball. He could also catch lobs, crash the offensive boards, etc.

Him and JB would both be constantly pushing the ball in transition, too..we'd get lots of easy baskets on the break.

The Jays + Giannis would be unfair lol.

I doubt it happens, figure he'll probably go to like Spurs, Knicks, Lakers, Nuggets or Rockets or something..

[djFan71]

You just stick a couple of 3D players out there and keep them out of the way around Giannis, JT and JB.

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

Yeah if he doesn't have the ball he would just set high screens for whoever does have the ball, then roll to the rim or stay out on the perimeter to reverse the ball, run DHO, make passes to cutters or attack off the dribble if he gets the ball. He could also catch lobs, crash the offensive boards, etc.

Him and JB would both be constantly pushing the ball in transition, too..we'd get lots of easy baskets on the break.

The Jays + Giannis would be unfair lol.

I doubt it happens, figure he'll probably go to like Spurs, Knicks, Lakers, Nuggets or Rockets or something..

yeah, he's basically your point center, lol. You could roll without a true PG even. Giannis, JT, JB, Walsh, Minott - good luck scoring other team. Or White, Hugo.

But, yeah, not happening.

[Hal14]

You just stick a couple of 3D players out there and keep them out of the way around Giannis, JT and JB.

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

Yeah if he doesn't have the ball he would just set high screens for whoever does have the ball, then roll to the rim or stay out on the perimeter to reverse the ball, run DHO, make passes to cutters or attack off the dribble if he gets the ball. He could also catch lobs, crash the offensive boards, etc.

Him and JB would both be constantly pushing the ball in transition, too..we'd get lots of easy baskets on the break.

The Jays + Giannis would be unfair lol.

I doubt it happens, figure he'll probably go to like Spurs, Knicks, Lakers, Nuggets or Rockets or something..

yeah, he's basically your point center, lol. You could roll without a true PG even. Giannis, JT, JB, Walsh, Minott - good luck scoring other team. Or White, Hugo.

But, yeah, not happening.

I'd assume that if we somehow got Giannis but managed to keep both Jays, D-white definitely be gone.

Is it actually possible to pull it off and keep white too?

Oh man, that would really be unfair lol.

[djFan71]

You just stick a couple of 3D players out there and keep them out of the way around Giannis, JT and JB.

Yeah if he doesn't have the ball he would just set high screens for whoever does have the ball, then roll to the rim or stay out on the perimeter to reverse the ball, run DHO, make passes to cutters or attack off the dribble if he gets the ball. He could also catch lobs, crash the offensive boards, etc.

Him and JB would both be constantly pushing the ball in transition, too..we'd get lots of easy baskets on the break.

The Jays + Giannis would be unfair lol.

I doubt it happens, figure he'll probably go to like Spurs, Knicks, Lakers, Nuggets or Rockets or something..

yeah, he's basically your point center, lol. You could roll without a true PG even. Giannis, JT, JB, Walsh, Minott - good luck scoring other team. Or White, Hugo.

But, yeah, not happening.

I'd assume that if we somehow got Giannis but managed to keep both Jays, D-white definitely be gone.

Is it actually possible to pull it off and keep white too?

Oh man, that would really be unfair lol.

oh, yeah, you're probably right.

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Taking on a bad contract like Mann’s could be an option so that we can keep more of our draft picks and have another team send them over instead.

Its tough because that Mann contract is truly horrendous event though I believe he still can be a playoff rotation guy

[brackdan70]

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Taking on a bad contract like Mann’s could be an option so that we can keep more of our draft picks and have another team send them over instead.

Its tough because that Mann contract is truly horrendous event though I believe he still can be a playoff rotation guy

The money gets tricky if we were take on Mann and Zubac…also odd because we basically gave up the 18th pick to route Mann to BRK instead of keeping him in the Porzingis trade.

[playa-hater]

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Taking on a bad contract like Mann’s could be an option so that we can keep more of our draft picks and have another team send them over instead.

Its tough because that Mann contract is truly horrendous event though I believe he still can be a playoff rotation guy

Picks??? i guess that would make a break this trade depending on what that means for us.

[Larry_Russell]

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Taking on a bad contract like Mann’s could be an option so that we can keep more of our draft picks and have another team send them over instead.

Its tough because that Mann contract is truly horrendous event though I believe he still can be a playoff rotation guy

Honestly, if Zubac could be gotten there is no need for Brooklyn.

Unless Brooklyn is sending Claxton to Clippers it makes no sense for them to NOT take the expiring contract.


Simons and boucher and a pick (s) to clippers

Derrick jones and a 2nd to brooklyn

Zubac to boston

[jfs1000d]

Sorry but these ideas are killing me. Boston giving up 2 first rd picks to pay for a center who makes 18 million. Instead we could have Drafted Kalk with only 1 2nd rd pick and paid him two million to be Queta's backup.

Queta at this time keeps staying underrated on here despite out playing most of the centers so far. Including the player, we want to give up so many valuable assets for. Smh.

Ok we could have drafted Kalk… we didn’t though. I don’t understand the relevancy. And are you trying to imply $19M is a lot? That’s pretty damn solid contract number for Zubac. He was in a situation like Dwhite where his max extension was below market but it was close enough that it was worth it to lock in the security. So if they do trade him, he carries the benefit of a below fair market value deal.

Queta is having a great year and has emerged as a key piece. He’s not outplaying Zubac though. That’s nonsense. No one is disrespecting him. He’s playing 24 minutes and if we added a high end center like Zubac that probably Lu gets cut to 18-20, but that’s hardly dismissing or diminishing him. If we had him and Zubac that’s 48 minutes of great center play.

This board gets infatuated with fringe players. Ben McLemore, Harry Giles, and now it is Kalkbrenner.

The kid is too slow and isn’t good enough to help us. Is he better than Garza? Probably not.

[Fierce1]

Sorry but these ideas are killing me. Boston giving up 2 first rd picks to pay for a center who makes 18 million. Instead we could have Drafted Kalk with only 1 2nd rd pick and paid him two million to be Queta's backup.

Queta at this time keeps staying underrated on here despite out playing most of the centers so far. Including the player, we want to give up so many valuable assets for. Smh.

Ok we could have drafted Kalk… we didn’t though. I don’t understand the relevancy. And are you trying to imply $19M is a lot? That’s pretty damn solid contract number for Zubac. He was in a situation like Dwhite where his max extension was below market but it was close enough that it was worth it to lock in the security. So if they do trade him, he carries the benefit of a below fair market value deal.

Queta is having a great year and has emerged as a key piece. He’s not outplaying Zubac though. That’s nonsense. No one is disrespecting him. He’s playing 24 minutes and if we added a high end center like Zubac that probably Lu gets cut to 18-20, but that’s hardly dismissing or diminishing him. If we had him and Zubac that’s 48 minutes of great center play.

This board gets infatuated with fringe players. Ben McLemore, Harry Giles, and now it is Kalkbrenner.

The kid is too slow and isn’t good enough to help us. Is he better than Garza? Probably not.

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Taking on a bad contract like Mann’s could be an option so that we can keep more of our draft picks and have another team send them over instead.

Its tough because that Mann contract is truly horrendous event though I believe he still can be a playoff rotation guy

DDB!

[redslastlaugh]

Really interesting Zubac rumor... hmmm, interesting ... I looked up Zubac's agency and he is a client of Excel Sports Mng which is an agency we've worked with quite a lot lately. Excel represents Derrick White, Kristaps Porzingis and former C's Aaron Nesmith & Kemba Walker ... so I would assume they would open to the idea of their client coming to the Celtics...

Usually trade season opens up on December 15th, but this ddb trade suggested, I think all the players in his mock trade, are eligible to be traded right now.... in his deal, Celts are taking back more money than they send out, which I think we can not do as we're still in the 1st apron, but that could be fixed easily... so yea pretty interesting..

[Fierce1]

I still think Zubac is too good to be true.

The Clips will be giving up on the season if they trade Zubac.

They would be left with Brook Lopez and that rookie with a long surname at the Center spot.

[bisme37]

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

The problem with Giannis is we'd then have to waive half the roster so we could sign his entire family.

I like the Jays, personally.

[djFan71]

I'm feeling old school at the moment, but I don't want Giannis to join JB, JT. Feels like KD on the Dubs cheat code level. But, they did get a ring, so...

I do wonder how it would even work. Defense would be insane. Offense, what does Giannis do when JB/JT have the ball? He can't space. So, he either has the ball when he's out there or becomes the ultimate pnr diving big and crashes the boards? Having 2 of those 3 on the floor at all times would be insane, though.

The problem with Giannis is we'd then have to waive half the roster so we could sign his entire family.

I like the Jays, personally.

Thannasis catching strays!

[Celts17Pride]

I still think Zubac is too good to be true.

The Clips will be giving up on the season if they trade Zubac.

They would be left with Brook Lopez and that rookie with a long surname at the Center spot.

Clippers season is already over