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[ddb]

I may be in the minority. But I have no interest in paying Hayward 30 mil per.

Understandable, but they'll need shooting, and it's doubtful they'll have money to spend in 2018, since Smart and Thomas will be due new contracts and Noel will likely resign for 20+ million in 2017.

If Griffin's the 2017 free agent target, then they probably shouldn't go after Noel. I highly doubt Griffin has interest in coming to Boston though. He seems like a flakey LA guy.

Yeah I think it's Blake or trade. Otherwise maybe we sign an undervalued guy to 10-15 mil per.

Im just thinking about how much we are going to have to pay Isaiah and our other young players over the next two years. Which is why I don't think it makes sense to pay Hayward.

I don't think Blake leaves LA. And if he does the Knicks and Thunder probably have a much greater shot at landing him

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[GregB]

Yeah I think it's Blake or trade. Otherwise maybe we sign an undervalued guy to 10-15 mil per.

Im just thinking about how much we are going to have to pay Isaiah and our other young players over the next two years. Which is why I don't think it makes sense to pay Hayward.

An assets consolidation deal makes lots of sense. If they punt to 2018 free agency and don't resign Bradley or Olynyk, they could make a run at Cousins, George or Westbrook. I dunno if ownership and Stevens have the patience for that though.

We could potentially keep Bradley if we renounce Smarts cap hold. But, I agree , the best case scenario is we get something done by next offseason. It should be very interesting.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

AB's gonna want 20 mil after signing the team friendly contract, plus he's gonna see Evan Turner's new contract at 17 per and think to himself, "I should be getting at least that." The question is, Does DA shell out 20 mill to AB the same off season that IT is gonna want 25 mill? DA's got a couple of hard decisions to make. If AB takes another step forward this coming season in his development, than it's possible. He's got to increase his ball handling which was always his weakest point, that holds the keys to his drive game. He can't put the cart before the horse. He doesn't get to the line cause he doesn't drive cause he gets the ball swiped away too often. I've seen the guy dribble the ball off his legs so many times it's not funny. He's gotten a lot better though. Last year, he showed better handle. Is he maxed out in that category? I dunno. As long as he's been with the team, he's still 25. It's crazy he's still so young. Crossing my fingers he takes the next step to 20ppg this year. Cause if not, he's stuck at 16ppg roll type and Im not too sure DA wants to shell out 1/5th of his cap to a good roll player when if he spent another 5 mil he could land an allstar or an emerging one. This is a crucial year for AB. He's gotta show the brass he's about to become an emerging allstar that keeps getting better. He can't settle for 16ppg, expect 20mil per season and hope to remain with the Celtics. Someone will pay him that though as he is now when the time comes.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I think DA needs to pull the trigger and use the more cost effective guys at the shooting guard spot, I love AB but do you want to have 65+ million invested in AB, IT, and Horford? it just does not seem possible unless AB and IT sign a team friendly deal.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Should be a big training camp for roz given the above things discussed.

[ConstableGeneva]

Yep, agree with LBF. One way to ease the cap troubles is for guys on rookie deals to take a huge leap or at least show they're ready to take over the roles of the vets who are about to get paid. We'll see that this season with ET gone (no way we were going to pay him 17M/year). Without a clear no.1 yet on the team, building a contender is damn hard.

[Disinformation]

I'd be more comfortable trading AB after the season starts and we've seen how Smart and the other young guys have progressed. Because over the past couple of years, when Bradley's been out the Celtics have been noticeably worse. I understand the money situation, but AB is an important key to the team right now and until/unless someone else can replace him, I'm hesitant to move him. Besides, he has two years left on his contract. Ideally, by the time that contract ends the C's will have added another star player and be capped out. At that point, how much Bradley makes is a smaller issue.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

I think DA needs to pull the trigger and use the more cost effective guys at the shooting guard spot, I love AB but do you want to have 65+ million invested in AB, IT, and Horford? it just does not seem possible unless AB and IT sign a team friendly deal.

More like 70+ mil, cause you know, IT is gunning for 25mil per. That's a fact. 70 mil between that particular trio is ludicrous. AB is has fantastic trade value right now with 2 years remaining. Smart and Rozier need to be in it to win it this year and literally try and take the 2 guard spot for themselves during training camp. I dont even know if that's possible with the their youth still a big factor. It's gonna be real hard to knock AB off that starting 2 guard spot. Especially since DA openly stated that AB and IT where their two best players last year. I'm gonna be looking with a lot o anticipation who BS names the starting 5 this year. Especially that 2 guard and 6th man spot. Those two spots will be very telling what their future plans could hold on both trade front and free agent front.

[Crossy2008]

I think AB is willing to take a hometown discount. It may not be cheap, but I could see five year $80 million. Maybe even a little less.

One thing everyone needs to remember is that there are no guaranteed that teams will have the cap space to pursue Bradley in a couple seasons. We should go back to the offseasons where there are only a hand full of teams that are capable of signing max players. This offseason was an aberration. There will likely never be a time again in the NBA where teams will collectively have such an inordinate percentage of the available cap to spend on player contracts.

[rickrolled]

Noel is eligible for an extension before october 31st iinm. If he's traded to Boston would he take a decent home town discount ? Something like Biyombo is paid, 4/68 ?

[Homerclease]

Noel is eligible for an extension before october 31st iinm. If he's traded to Boston would he take a decent home town discount ? Something like Biyombo is paid, 4/68 ?

That young having yet to really make the big bucks? Not a chance

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

If Bradley was going to be traded, then Jimmy Butler would be in a Celtics uniform right now IMO. I think Ainge values him a lot.

As for AB taking a hometown discount - nah. Dude fired his agent and replace him already. 5 yrs/$80 million won't cut it. Not when Allen Crabbe just got 4 yrs/$75 million and he isn't even a starter

[GregB]

I think DA needs to pull the trigger and use the more cost effective guys at the shooting guard spot, I love AB but do you want to have 65+ million invested in AB, IT, and Horford? it just does not seem possible unless AB and IT sign a team friendly deal.

Thats my thinking too in regards to Avery. But, my only problem with dealing him, is if we had to matchup with Golden State in the NBA Finals who would you rather have guarding Steph? Also, If we don't pay Avery, How much is Marcus going to demand as a RFA?

[GregB]

If Bradley was going to be traded, then Jimmy Butler would be in a Celtics uniform right now IMO. I think Ainge values him a lot.

As for AB taking a hometown discount - nah. Dude fired his agent and replace him already. 5 yrs/$80 million won't cut it. Not when Allen Crabbe just got 4 yrs/$75 million and he isn't even a starter

I dont necessarily agree with that. I think Ainge was willing to include Avery/Smart + 2016 brooklyn pick. I just think Chicago was asking for that plus Crowder and or another Brooklyn pick. Which is why nothing got done. IMO, The ire showed by Wyc on draft night was mostly directed at Gar Forman and John Paxson.

[ajones9219]

Continued from the last page:

I think the conversation starts with Brown or Nets pick.......

I think the conversation ends with Brown or Nets pick.

You realize that Brown was supposed to go around 7th overall, right? The Brooklyn picks are out of teams control so they aren't as valuable as you may think. Noel is a generational talent on defense with the stats to back it up. Rozier is not the god you presume him to be, to me he's a throw in player, a little more valuable than a second round pick. Smart is terrible, point guards in the modern NBA need to be able to score 25 per game, and he can't. Brown is unpolished with potential, which is why a conversation would START with him, there would have to be more. If you guys think you'll be the only ones calling throughout the season, good luck with that. If you want to be foolish you can, but you are the only fans that value Rozier, Smart, and James Young.

You value Noel because of his great defense but then bash Smart who is a better defender and has more potential offensively and is already far more clutch and wins more games for his team.

Nobody values James Young here but if you think you're going to get more than a decent but improving backup point gaurd (Rozier) for a RFA Noel than you're just delusional....which I think you might be since you think Philly is going to be a good team this year when they are clearly in the bottom 5 as currently built.

[rzzzzz]

Noel may have some hometown affinity, but clearly there is no deal on the horizon.

[GregB]

Noel may have some hometown affinity, but clearly there is no deal on the horizon.

Even if their was. I don't think anything is announced until after the playoffs.

[ddb]

I can't wait to watch Jaylen Brown. I think he has a real shot at being special. Certain guys you just watch and see something special... Pierce had it. Even Rondo had it. You just knew they would ball. Jaylen can own this league if he puts in the work. That steady & under control drive to the basket is a work of art. You cannot teach that. Once he is knocking down shots and knows he cannot be stopped, you're looking at Danny's best draft pick ever.

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[Tiny ball]

I can't wait to watch Jaylen Brown. I think he has a real shot at being special. Certain guys you just watch and see something special... Pierce had it. Even Rondo had it. You just knew they would ball. Jaylen can own this league if he puts in the work. That steady & under control drive to the basket is a work of art. You cannot teach that. Once he is knocking down shots and knows he cannot be stopped, you're looking at Danny's best draft pick ever.

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I like him but steady and under control?? To me looked like accident waiting to happen. Jumping into people and using his springs not his brains. If he does not learn real fast he is injury waiting to happen and bounced off floor hard and often till break down occurs.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Like I said the 76ers wanna see how Embiid holds before trading Noel.

I'll ask my friend if he has any more info tomorrow.