Danny Ainge's AOS (of a season): CLE 117, BOS 110 (20-20)

[makubesu]

Man there is nothing worse than a close game of nba basketball. It’s hard to cheer for your team when it means twenty minutes of free throws.

[chrisab123]

All is well. Everything is fine. We also really like our guys.

[radcot]

Maybe Tatum and brown aren’t as good as we thought?


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There's blame to go around the entire organization, but I'd say Tatum/Brown are the least at fault.

Tatum is a superstar. When he's 25-31 years old he's going to be making 1st team All-NBA selections. He's still learning as a player and once he realizes he can overpower and outsmart most players, forget it. I agree that he gets complacent at times and relies too much on the Harden side-step 3's, but overall he's fantastic.

Brown I would say is probably closer to what his peak form will be. I think he can be a 5x's All-Star type whereas Tatum is a 10x's plus type.

THE PROBLEM is that neither one of these guys strengths is facilitating and making players around them better. These guys are scorers first....So often times when they get the ball they are looking to score.

This team is lacking in playmaking. It's very obvious. Kemba is another guy who's score first. There is literally one guy on the entire roster that's a natural playmaker. Marcus Smart. And he shouldn't be the best playmaker on a team. That can't be the case. He needs to be 2nd or 3rd.

The blame goes on Danny Ainge for piecing together a team where the pieces don't fit. He has A LOT of what he needs. He's 2 players shy of having a great team. Hayward would have certainly helped....big stinker that he left. Danny needs to fix that problem ASAP.

Couldn't agree more. And even Smart has a tendency to rely on hero ball down the stretch. In the 4th quarter, when the team needs most to play with cohesion, that's when they do it least.

[ParticleMan]

agree with everyone saying that making teammates better is a huge weakness for our team. i disagree that tatum and brown can't do it, tho. i think they could if they put their mind to it. but when kemba came back, the dynamic changed. now there was another score-first guy in the lineup and worse yet the primary ballhandler, so it seems like tatum, brown, and smart felt like they couldn't give up the ball or they'd never get it back. sharing is contagious, but so is selfishness. it's not really kemba's fault, he is what he is. with the right pieces this would work, but we need a guy like horford who you can run an offense thru but insists on motion and ball movement.

[fallguy]

Jayson and Jaylen are stars but they just got there. They aren't done developing yet. It is still very difficult for them to score sometimes. They don't get to the line, they hold on to the ball too long at times, their defense is fleeting, etc. So yes, they aren't going to pull this rag tag team to wins every night. They absolutely need Kemba to play consistently well, Smart to get back into shape, Danny to get off his ass and fill the big void left by Hayward.

I really like Jaylen Brown. He's fantastic. But he has tunnel vision. His one glaring weakness is that he simply doesn't see the court very well....I'll switch sports and share an example of what I'm talking about.....When I played college hockey I was a facilitator.. Always looking to make the right pass and make teammates better. I ran the PP. That was my role and I was pretty good at it. I had a teammate that was super fast, super tough, and knew how to score goals....but man, when I say he had tunnel vision...geez...I never considered him a selfish player....he just didn't see the ice like I did. He could have had so many assists if he just saw the game differently. he missed so many opportunities to make a pass that would lead to an easy goal...instead shooting the puck... back to basketball.....when I watch this team play I see a lot of guys that play like my teammate did. Jaylen especially. Not enough guys that played like I did...Marcus being the only one. Tatum sometimes.

Ainge needs to fix this. The pieces don't fit.

Ainge has been using exactly this language.

[RondoToKG]

the ****, this website is bypassing my adblocker. how is that possible?

[AKFO]

agree with everyone saying that making teammates better is a huge weakness for our team. i disagree that tatum and brown can't do it, tho. i think they could if they put their mind to it. but when kemba came back, the dynamic changed. now there was another score-first guy in the lineup and worse yet the primary ballhandler, so it seems like tatum, brown, and smart felt like they couldn't give up the ball or they'd never get it back. sharing is contagious, but so is selfishness. it's not really kemba's fault, he is what he is. with the right pieces this would work, but we need a guy like horford who you can run an offense thru but insists on motion and ball movement.

Big on this. Giving the ball up and feeling like you'll be able to get it back is important for scorers and star players. During the IT era, the ball moved because the players around IT would make quick reads and if they didn't have a good look, the ball would make its way back around into IT's hands.

Not trusting your teammates to move the ball creates a feedback loop where you don't begin to move the ball in the first place; if you want an opportunity to score, the time is now.

Jaylen to me has been a completely different player since Kemba came back. I think a lot of it is the injury and regression, but even when Kemba sits now, everything Jaylen does feels rushed like he has to get into his offense as quickly as Kemba does. Felt like before he could rely on his teammates being ready to play around him whenever he got the ball. Jaylen definitely has a focus problem, so that could be it too.

Regardless, the team needs to do a better job of hunting good shots. Move the ball, and move it back around. There should be several reads by several players throughout the possession, and if none of them are good looks, then we can start the iso ball with 7-10 seconds left on the clock. Our players spend way too much time trying to set up their own scoring opportunities and letting defenses load up on them.

[Dave_From_NB]

I get that the talent isn't as good as we would wish. But when I see Semi in the starting lineup, I can't help but think they're just forfeiting the game. And if you're doing that, why not go a step further and give your only potential (and unknown) upside player some time on the court, in Nesmith? If you're going to lose, why not at least attempt to accomplish some long term gain. It pretty much feels pointless at the moment what they are doing out there.

[Captain_Caveman]

For the "Gordon Hayward isn't worth $15m a year" crowd: LMAO, good call.

Me: Hayward shouldnt get 20M in that market

You: Brown shouldnt get 20 period.

Pretty hilarious that you keep bumping this and ignoring how you took a massive L.

Just hate to see it:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=78963120&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p78963120

First time in a long time I didn't agree with an Ainge contract. I get it, but I don't like it.

There will be no victory lap on this one, so put that to bed right now.

LOL.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=78974994&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p78974994

I don’t see much to trip over here. Jaylen is young, but his likely trajectory is clear enough. He’s not a bust, not a star. A solid enough 4th-5th starter and a pretty good role player with whom we got leveraged into overpaying due to the weakness of next year’s FA class. Wouldn’t like if Smart got the same contract, and I love that guy.

Good call here

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=80126424&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p80126424

Here's what these Jaylenheads are missing. While not altogether terrible, Jaylen's contract is overpaid by like $5-6m a year and that will impede, rather than facilitate, our ability to get to a title from here. We kinda had to do it, but still.

If people are in this to finish 5th and cheer about having a borderline All-Star, cool. But if you in it for titles, meeeeehhhhh.

Yeah, Jaylen should get a 4/79 deal cuz he wont be an all star. 4th/5th starter tops. CLOWN.

FOH. You want me to bring up your misses every post? Cuz theres a lot of material out there and I’d be more than happy to oblige.

The guy who said he was going to "drape his balls on (my) face" days before Newton had one of the worst games for a QB in the past 30 years is calling me a "clown" for saying Jaylen got overpaid after doing an archive search? No, not triggered at all lol.

To recap, I thought Jaylen got overpaid. That's my big loss in 14 years posting here? Cool.

You didn't even want Hayward on the team for 1/3rd of what he got in free agency, and went in on me hard for saying he would opt-out if healthy. You also said Cam Newton was a Super Bowl caliber QB last year and went in on me hard for saying he wasn't top 25.

I'm thinking that those Ls are not equivalent and I think that you think that too. And yet here you are calling me out again for pointing out that we have made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years, as if the biggest reason we have slipped this year isn't... wait for it... losing Gordon Hayward over money you didn't want to pay him?

We are all a little frustrated, but you aren't the one to be calling people out over it, and certainly not me.

[Taget]

So how is this years draft looking?

The good is that we do know a capable roster CAN be assembled around Tatum and Brown. It has been done before and no reason why it can't be done again.

The good is that except maybe Kemba we do no have any salaries that aren't easily movable. And the team can be torn down and reconstructed with ease.

The bad of course is that we are surrounding our two young stars with riff-raff. Late first rounders, second rounders, marginal cheap signings. A team starting a semi-good player like Semi on a semi-annual basis is only going to win games semi-often.

It is safe to say the season looks lost. This is where Brad needs to earn his play and the players that matter at this point (Brown, Tatum, Smart and I guess Pritchard) happy enough that a new supporting cast can be brought in to right the ship.

If not.

Watch on YouTube

[KGtabake]

I've promised to myself that i won't be posting on game threads (or post game) this season.
I get the same vibes as in the Kyrie season, even if it's for different reasons.
I share the disappointment.
But i will continue to post only after this disappointment and anger settles down. After 24 hrs i guess.
This is a sad board to be this season and this team is the only responsible for this.
Losses like last night hurt a lot but the word "disgrace" is too much. The Cavs have beaten the Nets twice. These things happen.

We need to stay united and composed. Even if the season is lost, let's keep the positives to build on. I loved RWill last night.
Keep your heads up.

[StojkoVrankovic]

Jayson and Jaylen are stars but they just got there. They aren't done developing yet. It is still very difficult for them to score sometimes. They don't get to the line, they hold on to the ball too long at times, their defense is fleeting, etc. So yes, they aren't going to pull this rag tag team to wins every night. They absolutely need Kemba to play consistently well, Smart to get back into shape, Danny to get off his ass and fill the big void left by Hayward.

I really like Jaylen Brown. He's fantastic. But he has tunnel vision. His one glaring weakness is that he simply doesn't see the court very well....I'll switch sports and share an example of what I'm talking about.....When I played college hockey I was a facilitator.. Always looking to make the right pass and make teammates better. I ran the PP. That was my role and I was pretty good at it. I had a teammate that was super fast, super tough, and knew how to score goals....but man, when I say he had tunnel vision...geez...I never considered him a selfish player....he just didn't see the ice like I did. He could have had so many assists if he just saw the game differently. he missed so many opportunities to make a pass that would lead to an easy goal...instead shooting the puck... back to basketball.....when I watch this team play I see a lot of guys that play like my teammate did. Jaylen especially. Not enough guys that played like I did...Marcus being the only one. Tatum sometimes.

Ainge needs to fix this. The pieces don't fit.

you literally just described Tatum

[SmartWentCrazy]

Spoiler:

Me: Hayward shouldnt get 20M in that market

You: Brown shouldnt get 20 period.

Pretty hilarious that you keep bumping this and ignoring how you took a massive L.

Just hate to see it:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=78963120&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p78963120

First time in a long time I didn't agree with an Ainge contract. I get it, but I don't like it.

There will be no victory lap on this one, so put that to bed right now.

LOL.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=78974994&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p78974994

I don’t see much to trip over here. Jaylen is young, but his likely trajectory is clear enough. He’s not a bust, not a star. A solid enough 4th-5th starter and a pretty good role player with whom we got leveraged into overpaying due to the weakness of next year’s FA class. Wouldn’t like if Smart got the same contract, and I love that guy.

Good call here

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=80126424&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p80126424

Here's what these Jaylenheads are missing. While not altogether terrible, Jaylen's contract is overpaid by like $5-6m a year and that will impede, rather than facilitate, our ability to get to a title from here. We kinda had to do it, but still.

If people are in this to finish 5th and cheer about having a borderline All-Star, cool. But if you in it for titles, meeeeehhhhh.

Yeah, Jaylen should get a 4/79 deal cuz he wont be an all star. 4th/5th starter tops. CLOWN.

FOH. You want me to bring up your misses every post? Cuz theres a lot of material out there and I’d be more than happy to oblige.

The guy who said he was going to "drape his balls on (my) face" days before Newton had one of the worst games for a QB in the past 30 years is calling me a "clown" for saying Jaylen got overpaid after doing an archive search? No, not triggered at all lol.

To recap, I thought Jaylen got overpaid. That's my big loss in 14 years posting here? Cool.

You didn't even want Hayward on the team for 1/3rd of what he got in free agency, and went in on me hard for saying he would opt-out if healthy. You also said Cam Newton was a Super Bowl caliber QB last year and went in on me hard for saying he wasn't top 25.

I'm thinking that those Ls are not equivalent and I think that you think that too. And yet here you are calling me out again for pointing out that we have made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years, as if the biggest reason we have slipped this year isn't... wait for it... losing Gordon Hayward over money you didn't want to pay him?

We are all a little frustrated, but you aren't the one to be calling people out over it, and certainly not me.

And you went in on me hard in that thread. Were gonna drop me some basketball knowledge. LOL. And you stanned for Stidham, saying he could be a starting QB in the league. Despite him likely being cut this summer. I dont come close to following your clown ass around reminding you about it constantly. That should tell you all you need to know regarding whether they were equivalent— I’m not the one trying to desperately convince everyone elsewise whenever possible.

You’ve taken your share of L’s, man. If you want to keep bringing mine up, just know I’ll be here to remind you of yours.

[Captain_Caveman]

Spoiler:

Just hate to see it:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=78963120&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p78963120



LOL.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=78974994&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p78974994



Good call here

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1853898&p=80126424&hilit=Jaylen+overpaid#p80126424



Yeah, Jaylen should get a 4/79 deal cuz he wont be an all star. 4th/5th starter tops. CLOWN.

FOH. You want me to bring up your misses every post? Cuz theres a lot of material out there and I’d be more than happy to oblige.

The guy who said he was going to "drape his balls on (my) face" days before Newton had one of the worst games for a QB in the past 30 years is calling me a "clown" for saying Jaylen got overpaid after doing an archive search? No, not triggered at all lol.

To recap, I thought Jaylen got overpaid. That's my big loss in 14 years posting here? Cool.

You didn't even want Hayward on the team for 1/3rd of what he got in free agency, and went in on me hard for saying he would opt-out if healthy. You also said Cam Newton was a Super Bowl caliber QB last year and went in on me hard for saying he wasn't top 25.

I'm thinking that those Ls are not equivalent and I think that you think that too. And yet here you are calling me out again for pointing out that we have made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years, as if the biggest reason we have slipped this year isn't... wait for it... losing Gordon Hayward over money you didn't want to pay him?

We are all a little frustrated, but you aren't the one to be calling people out over it, and certainly not me.

And you went in on me hard in that thread. Were gonna drop me some basketball knowledge. LOL. And you stanned for Stidham, saying he could be a starting QB in the league. Despite him likely being cut this summer. I dont come close to following your clown ass around reminding you about it constantly. That should tell you all you need to know regarding whether they were equivalent— I’m not the one trying to desperately convince everyone elsewise whenever possible.

You’ve taken your share of L’s, man. If you want to keep bringing mine up, just know I’ll be here to remind you of yours.

I didn't "stan" too hard for Stidham. I said it really didn't matter who played QB on a team that was set to win 6-8 games, and that we were better off just rolling over the maximum amount of cap room to this offseason rather than pay Cam to go out there and suck (which he did). Considering that you were talking Super Bowl even months after that point, I'd say that I pretty much nailed that one. I didn't see the point of Cam as a starter and still don't. We are a 10-11 win team that could be a contender again with a real QB.

And maybe it is me, but I don't think that the guy who basically didn't want Hayward on the team at any price this year gets to do the callouts when we are missing him badly and behind his team in the standings.

P.S. Mods not gonna do anything about it, but feel free to stop calling me a clown anytime now. The chances of you doing that to my face are less than zero lol.

[GoCeltics123]

C'mon, SWC, Cave, you're my guys. Don't want to see you beefing like this.

I learned from the bet I had with truth a couple of years ago. People have different opinions and its cool. No need to antagonize on here. We're by far the most negative Celtics board for a reason, we already hate on the team enough.

Show the anger towards our arrogant **** organization that continues to "like its guys" into the lottery this season. They deserve it.

[GuyClinch]

Have not been really following the team as much as in years past..

FWIW - I don't really blame the team. They just are not particularly talented IMHO. You get a lot of if coach would only do x y z when your team lacks talent. But if it lacks talent there is nothing that can be done..

Teams that dominate in the NBA are basically super star driven. We should know this after our last championship.. So when Ainge turned Hayward and Kyrie into nothing that killed us. I had little hope in this season. Guys like Tristan Thompson are not the secret sauce. NBA teams are about collecting the most all-stars. I don't really like the Nets but they are loaded. Its not really about good guys or playing Celtic basketball - its about having players that are better then the opposition. Usually the best player wins - and only when you have 5+ very good players can you really break that..

Are Brown and Tatum good enough? Sure.. If they still had Hayward, Kyrie and added Durant..

I dunno if the hard core fans will disagree with me - but that's my take. It's not Grant Williams fault the team sucks. The Nets would still be dominant with him riding the bench.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Spoiler:

The guy who said he was going to "drape his balls on (my) face" days before Newton had one of the worst games for a QB in the past 30 years is calling me a "clown" for saying Jaylen got overpaid after doing an archive search? No, not triggered at all lol.

To recap, I thought Jaylen got overpaid. That's my big loss in 14 years posting here? Cool.

You didn't even want Hayward on the team for 1/3rd of what he got in free agency, and went in on me hard for saying he would opt-out if healthy. You also said Cam Newton was a Super Bowl caliber QB last year and went in on me hard for saying he wasn't top 25.

I'm thinking that those Ls are not equivalent and I think that you think that too. And yet here you are calling me out again for pointing out that we have made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years, as if the biggest reason we have slipped this year isn't... wait for it... losing Gordon Hayward over money you didn't want to pay him?

We are all a little frustrated, but you aren't the one to be calling people out over it, and certainly not me.

And you went in on me hard in that thread. Were gonna drop me some basketball knowledge. LOL. And you stanned for Stidham, saying he could be a starting QB in the league. Despite him likely being cut this summer. I dont come close to following your clown ass around reminding you about it constantly. That should tell you all you need to know regarding whether they were equivalent— I’m not the one trying to desperately convince everyone elsewise whenever possible.

You’ve taken your share of L’s, man. If you want to keep bringing mine up, just know I’ll be here to remind you of yours.

I didn't "stan" too hard for Stidham. I said it really didn't matter who played QB on a team that was set to win 6-8 games, and that we were better off just rolling over the maximum amount of cap room to this offseason rather than pay Cam to go out there and suck (which he did). Considering that you were talking Super Bowl even months after that point, I'd say that I pretty much nailed that one. I didn't see the point of Cam as a starter and still don't. We are a 10-11 win team that could be a contender again with a real QB.

And maybe it is me, but I don't think that the guy who basically didn't want Hayward on the team at any price this year gets to do the callouts when we are missing him badly and behind his team in the standings.

P.S. Mods not gonna do anything about it, but feel free to stop calling me a clown anytime now. The chances of you doing that to my face are less than zero lol.

Cool, and I didnt call Cam a superbowl QB. You’ve even previously acknowledged you made that up here:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1822069&start=980

You were not the one throwing around terms like "MVP form" or "Super Bowl"

Were missing Hayward partially because we got a TPE alone for him. Told you when you PMed me the rumor and when the other rumor was public I wouldve taken those deals. Beyond, we literally made the ECFs last year with Hayward contributing a big fat 0 in the playoff run. Maybe this isnt really all cuz of him? Beyond, my biggest gripe consistently has been Stevens offense, which is a bottom-5 scheme analytically. You got your narrative though.

Crying for the mods after deciding to come at me for no reason is soft. Enjoy the last word.

[grantlongforpresident]

Last game Ojeleye started and scored 0 points
This game Theis started and scored 0 points

Great team Ainge has put together

This isn’t their fault. Tatum and Brown take turns going ISO. It’s almost unwatchable basketball.

[Captain_Caveman]

And you went in on me hard in that thread. Were gonna drop me some basketball knowledge. LOL. And you stanned for Stidham, saying he could be a starting QB in the league. Despite him likely being cut this summer. I dont come close to following your clown ass around reminding you about it constantly. That should tell you all you need to know regarding whether they were equivalent— I’m not the one trying to desperately convince everyone elsewise whenever possible.

You’ve taken your share of L’s, man. If you want to keep bringing mine up, just know I’ll be here to remind you of yours.

I didn't "stan" too hard for Stidham. I said it really didn't matter who played QB on a team that was set to win 6-8 games, and that we were better off just rolling over the maximum amount of cap room to this offseason rather than pay Cam to go out there and suck (which he did). Considering that you were talking Super Bowl even months after that point, I'd say that I pretty much nailed that one. I didn't see the point of Cam as a starter and still don't. We are a 10-11 win team that could be a contender again with a real QB.

And maybe it is me, but I don't think that the guy who basically didn't want Hayward on the team at any price this year gets to do the callouts when we are missing him badly and behind his team in the standings.

P.S. Mods not gonna do anything about it, but feel free to stop calling me a clown anytime now. The chances of you doing that to my face are less than zero lol.

Cool, and I didnt call Cam a superbowl QB. You’ve even previously acknowledged you made that up here:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1822069&start=980

You were not the one throwing around terms like "MVP form" or "Super Bowl"

Were missing Hayward partially because we got a TPE alone for him. Told you when you PMed me the rumor and when the other rumor was public I wouldve taken those deals. Beyond, we literally made the ECFs last year with Hayward contributing a big fat 0 in the playoff run. Maybe this isnt really all cuz of him? Beyond, my biggest gripe consistently has been Stevens offense, which is a bottom-5 scheme analytically. You got your narrative though.

Crying for the mods after deciding to come at me for no reason is soft. Enjoy the last word.

I'm not doing the archive search to prove how high you were on Cam, but you were. You literally said you couldn't wait to drape your balls on my face before the WFT game last year just because I said he sucked and wasn't top 25.

As to how we got here, I responded to you calling out the "3 ECFs in 4 years" crowd, aka me, by saying you didn't want Hayward on the team (who we clearly miss). You're mad.

And no crying to the mods here. Never reported a single post for anything. I'm the guy who got banned just for calling a poster a neanderthal for repeatedly being sexist, and you are like 5 steps past that. All I am saying here is that you sure as **** wouldn't call me a clown to my face, so don't do it here. TIA.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I didn't "stan" too hard for Stidham. I said it really didn't matter who played QB on a team that was set to win 6-8 games, and that we were better off just rolling over the maximum amount of cap room to this offseason rather than pay Cam to go out there and suck (which he did). Considering that you were talking Super Bowl even months after that point, I'd say that I pretty much nailed that one. I didn't see the point of Cam as a starter and still don't. We are a 10-11 win team that could be a contender again with a real QB.

And maybe it is me, but I don't think that the guy who basically didn't want Hayward on the team at any price this year gets to do the callouts when we are missing him badly and behind his team in the standings.

P.S. Mods not gonna do anything about it, but feel free to stop calling me a clown anytime now. The chances of you doing that to my face are less than zero lol.

Cool, and I didnt call Cam a superbowl QB. You’ve even previously acknowledged you made that up here:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1822069&start=980

You were not the one throwing around terms like "MVP form" or "Super Bowl"

Were missing Hayward partially because we got a TPE alone for him. Told you when you PMed me the rumor and when the other rumor was public I wouldve taken those deals. Beyond, we literally made the ECFs last year with Hayward contributing a big fat 0 in the playoff run. Maybe this isnt really all cuz of him? Beyond, my biggest gripe consistently has been Stevens offense, which is a bottom-5 scheme analytically. You got your narrative though.

Crying for the mods after deciding to come at me for no reason is soft. Enjoy the last word.

I'm not doing the archive search to prove how high you were on Cam, but you were. You literally said you couldn't wait to drape your balls on my face before the WFT game last year just because I said he sucked and wasn't top 25.

As to how we got here, I responded to you calling out the "3 ECFs in 4 years" crowd, aka me, by saying you didn't want Hayward on the team (who we clearly miss). You're mad.

And no crying to the mods here. Never reported a single post for anything. I'm the guy who got banned just for calling a poster a neanderthal for repeatedly being sexist, and you are like 5 steps past that. All I am saying here is that you sure as **** wouldn't call me a clown to my face, so don't do it here. TIA.

A) I literally linked to your post where you admitted I didnt say what youre accusing me of saying

B) Im mad ainge took a TPE over players.

C) Youre crying for them. Its soft. Im the guy that fought to get you unbanned when Parl permabanned you. And I’d call you a clown to your face and you wouldnt do ****, stop pretending your tough when we both know youre not.