Gentleman Celtics Agree To Not Win Every Game! Loss vs MIN 11/6

[KillahGhostface]

Well that’s a Tatum issue not a team or coach issue. Superstars don’t get shut down like that. They may get tough matchups, but still can execute.

To be fair, while he had 3 TO’s in the 4th/OT, he also had 16 points on 9 shots.

He needs to execute better in crunch time, they all do, but let’s not pretend that he was some non factor lol. McDaniels is the best defensive wing in the league, he gives everybody trouble.

Well that’s the issue. He kept forcing the Mcdaniels matchup instead of forcing a switch or make a high level read. We need him to be top 5 to win a ring.

Absolutely agreed that we need him to be that, and he has been. I know that all of us will over analyze every game, but we’ve seen him make the right read for years now, even in crunch time. He’s the one who was assisting Smart on like all of his late game threes lol, and the Knicks/Heat games to start the year.

[Green89]

I don't really get the people bitching about Jaylen shooting a wide open 3 when he had just made one.

Should he have called a TO in OT? Yeah. But the Jaylen shot was fine. This team needs to stop going away from KP in big spots btw.

Wolves are going to be pretty good this year, their team is really solid.

It's the fact we had the ball with 37 seconds left and that was the only shot we got. Needed a better one there, and preferably two. We rushed the two for one, turned it over, and only ended up with a deep JB three, and he's only at like 36% on the season from deep.

[Green89]

To be fair, while he had 3 TO’s in the 4th/OT, he also had 16 points on 9 shots.

He needs to execute better in crunch time, they all do, but let’s not pretend that he was some non factor lol. McDaniels is the best defensive wing in the league, he gives everybody trouble.

Well that’s the issue. He kept forcing the Mcdaniels matchup instead of forcing a switch or make a high level read. We need him to be top 5 to win a ring.

Absolutely agreed that we need him to be that, and he has been. I know that all of us will over analyze every game, but we’ve seen him make the right read for years now.

He's shown huge improvements in games, especially at the start of games this year, where he was usually quiet in previous years. But the true test is always crunch time, and he could have been better last night. Like I posted earlier, he was almost too pumped up with emotion you don't usually see from him, and I think that it contributed to the turnovers. He needs to be steadied in those situations. Hopefully, PP and Cassell work with him more on the critical possession execution. And there was 1 quarter, maybe the 2nd or 3rd, where he barely had any attempts. He needs more consistent plays drawn for him in each of the 4 quarters.

[ConstableGeneva]

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Just an awful stretch from the Jays (includes Jrue now). You now have KP. Use him. He was all sad and ignored parked in the corner waiting to get involved or touch the ball lol. Old habits die hard.

I don't blame Joe as much as the others here. You have a 7-year and 6-year vet leading your team. Both All-NBA players. Plus two long-time All-Star type vets. You practice these scenarios. They should already know what to do in these situations. It's their call. No need to handhold like they're rookies in development.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

They should trade Horford and Draft Picks for a younger more impactful Big or Kelly O.,
whatever comes first...

Kelly O. is averaging 8 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 47 percent 3-point shooting.
And no, Ainge is not buying him out.

[CelticsPride18]

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Just an awful stretch from the Jays (includes Jrue now). You now have KP. Use him. He was all sad and ignored parked in the corner waiting to get involved or touch the ball lol. Old habits die hard.

Jrue had the best look, he just missed a bunny. The Jays shots were awful.

[lon3lytoaster]

I don't really get the people bitching about Jaylen shooting a wide open 3 when he had just made one.

Should he have called a TO in OT? Yeah. But the Jaylen shot was fine. This team needs to stop going away from KP in big spots btw.

Wolves are going to be pretty good this year, their team is really solid.

It's the fact we had the ball with 37 seconds left and that was the only shot we got. Needed a better one there, and preferably two. We rushed the two for one, turned it over, and only ended up with a deep JB three, and he's only at like 36% on the season from deep.

He also had McDaniels on him I believe, who spent the second half clamping Tatum. Ball needs to go to your best player in that situation, Tatum had Ant on him with 5 fouls. Just bad recognition.

The discouraging part is this is the same thing that happened in late game situations last year. The people on the “well we weren’t going 82-0” green bus don’t seem to see the bigger picture there. It’s a concern.

Porzingis also not being involved was criminal. They ran a motion with him once and JB decides to take a turn around jumper on Gobert. Great.

[CelticsPride18]

I don't really get the people bitching about Jaylen shooting a wide open 3 when he had just made one.

Should he have called a TO in OT? Yeah. But the Jaylen shot was fine. This team needs to stop going away from KP in big spots btw.

Wolves are going to be pretty good this year, their team is really solid.

It's the fact we had the ball with 37 seconds left and that was the only shot we got. Needed a better one there, and preferably two. We rushed the two for one, turned it over, and only ended up with a deep JB three, and he's only at like 36% on the season from deep.

He also had McDaniels on him I believe, who spent the second half clamping Tatum. Ball needs to go to your best player in that situation, Tatum had Ant on him with 5 fouls. Just bad recognition.

The discouraging part is this is the same thing that happened in late game situations last year. The people on the “well we weren’t going 82-0” green bus don’t seem to see the bigger picture there. It’s a concern.

Porzingis also not being involved was criminal. They ran a motion with him once and JB decides to take a turn around jumper on Gobert. Great.

JB got a clean look. He just missed.

[shackles10]

This turnover turned out to be the beginning of the end for us. Edwards blew up after this -- 9 straight points assisted or scored by him.

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Not the worst of them, but one of the several examples of how Ant should have fouled out. Oh well, can't rely on closing out games with the refs. You just have to do it yourselves, and we didn't. Some terrible turnovers down the stretch, iso ball, poor shooting, and a guy on the other team who is REALLY good.

[KillahGhostface]

They just weren’t going to call a 6th foul on Ant lol, which whatever.

Hopefully they learned that KP should have been involved in every action, in OT. Our execution was actually pretty good late in the 4th IMO, OT was ugly as hell lol.

[Hal14]

Good grief. The overreactions in this thread are legitimately hilarious.

It's ONE game. one meaningless game in early November which will have zero impact on who wins the 2024 NBA title.

-We were missing one of our best players.
-We were playing on the road
-We were playing against a good team, with the #1 ranked offense...they had all of their guys healthy and available to play
-Wolves were coming off 2 blowout wins - one of them was over the defending champs Nuggets. That was the Nuggets only loss on the season

All of that and we barely lost. Wolves played about as well as they can possibly play and still needed OT to beat us.

On to the next one.

Newsflash: the Nuggets last season went 53-29 in the regular season. The year before that, the warriors went 53-29 in the regular season. Guess what? Both of those teams won the NBA title. They both lost TWENTY NINE reg season games. That's a lot! It's gonna be a long, very disappointing season if ya'll freak the hell out and act like the sky is falling and act like a bunch of whiny babies after each loss. I can guarantee you Nuggets fans didn't whine like this after each of their 29 reg season losses last season and warriors fans didn't whine like this after each of their 29 losses the year before that.

Yes, it's one game? But why are you bringing up titles? The Celtics have a long way to go be a champion. Al has taken a step back. Our bench is scary bad right now. Our top 5 is really strong, after that it's just not good right now.

We're still the favorites to win the title.

https://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/nba-championship/winner

Al is 37. We all knew he would take a step back. That doesn't really surprise you, does it? That's why he's the 6th man now, instead of starting.

With that being said, Al is currently 3rd on the team (only behind White and Tatum) in net rating.

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The same is true about Celtics real GM lol

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[shackles10]

They just weren’t going to call a 6th foul on Ant lol, which whatever.

Hopefully they learned that KP should have been involved in every action, in OT. Our execution was actually pretty good late in the 4th IMO, OT was ugly as hell lol.

I knew they wouldn't call it, but at least give us the L2M report to dry our tears with.

[ConstableGeneva]

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He would've gone 0/20 against White. No need to argue otherwise.

[Hal14]

In other words, we need White - he's very important for us to win games.

[Celts17Pride]

In my opinion late in the game there should be no ISO's and always a two man game at the top with any of Tatum, Brown, KP, White and Jrue. If it doesn't produce a good shot then do it again. Make the defense move. Two man game usually produces a good shot for someone.

[BK_2020]

This turnover turned out to be the beginning of the end for us. Edwards blew up after this -- 9 straight points assisted or scored by him.

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Not the worst of them, but one of the several examples of how Ant should have fouled out. Oh well, can't rely on closing out games with the refs. You just have to do it yourselves, and we didn't. Some terrible turnovers down the stretch, iso ball, poor shooting, and a guy on the other team who is REALLY good.

They might have called a 6th on Ant if Towns hadn't already fouled out but they weren't going to foul out 2 stars playing at home. We played poorly in stretches but this loss is on the refs.

[return2glory]

Good grief. The overreactions in this thread are legitimately hilarious.

It's ONE game. one meaningless game in early November which will have zero impact on who wins the 2024 NBA title.

-We were missing one of our best players.
-We were playing on the road
-We were playing against a good team, with the #1 ranked offense...they had all of their guys healthy and available to play
-Wolves were coming off 2 blowout wins - one of them was over the defending champs Nuggets. That was the Nuggets only loss on the season

All of that and we barely lost. Wolves played about as well as they can possibly play and still needed OT to beat us.

On to the next one.

Newsflash: the Nuggets last season went 53-29 in the regular season. The year before that, the warriors went 53-29 in the regular season. Guess what? Both of those teams won the NBA title. They both lost TWENTY NINE reg season games. That's a lot! It's gonna be a long, very disappointing season if ya'll freak the hell out and act like the sky is falling and act like a bunch of whiny babies after each loss. I can guarantee you Nuggets fans didn't whine like this after each of their 29 reg season losses last season and warriors fans didn't whine like this after each of their 29 losses the year before that.

Yes, it's one game? But why are you bringing up titles? The Celtics have a long way to go be a champion. Al has taken a step back. Our bench is scary bad right now. Our top 5 is really strong, after that it's just not good right now.

We're still the favorites to win the title.

https://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/nba/nba-championship/winner

Al is 37. We all knew he would take a step back. That doesn't really surprise you, does it? That's why he's the 6th man now, instead of starting.

With that being said, Al is currently 3rd on the team (only behind White and Tatum) in net rating.

Favorites according to whom? Odds makers? Based on what?

1 title after the 1986 season. I give credit to Wyc and the owners along with Brad for improving the team this off season. But that bench is shaky. The 1986 and 2008 teams both had strong benches. It's early but Joe hasn't gotten the bench going.
And going from Brogdon, who was the 6th man of the year to Al as 6th man is a huge drop. Besides Al, who is there on the bench? Hauser and Pritchard? PP has been terrible outside of one quarter in 6 games. Joe hasn't given Stevens a chance, even with Brissett out.

[KillahGhostface]

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[jfs1000d]

I can’t take doom and gloom in thread. It’s annoying. Like it isn’t good basketball talk. We should have two postgame threads. One to discuss the game and one to whine in.

I stayed out if game threads last year because every game became a referendum on brown and Tatum, Mazulla, Brad, wyc, Larry bird. It was dumb.

They lost a game to Minnesota in November in OT. deal with it. They will probably lose to Philly as well.

They didn’t shoot well, influenced by the Minny defense and ball pressure. Gobert really did bother KP, who had a bad game finishing.

Ok. Deal with it. Good game to figure out how to combat how other teams will attack us. Should Boston have won? Probably not, Minny outplayed Boston. Could they have won? Yes. I thought brown’s shot was in.


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