Welcome to Boston, Baylor Scheierman!

[djFan71]

I see no issues playing both Hauser and Scheierman at the same time. Even for the long term. Assuming Scheierman can beat out Walsh, Springer and X for minutes. You have the basic 8 man rotation of:

Jrue, White, Pritchard
JT, JB, Hauser
Horford, KP

Then X, Springer, Walsh, Scheierman fight it out for the 9th & 10th spot minutes in the regular season. With KP out, Queta or Kornet or X get the main non-Horford minutes - but not full KP replacement minutes. You'd only go single big for the most part - maybe X with Al some. That frees up more time for those guys to fight over. And, you probably go 10 deep while KP is out.

One of those guys will emerge and you have a really solid 9-man with KP back:

Jrue, White, Pritchard
JT, JB, Hauser, <Battle Royale Winner>
Horford, KP

If Scheierman is the guy who emerges, that lineup still works great.

If things go great and two emerge, Pritchard is the next one they have to surpass. You just need to have at least one of Jrue, White, JT out there for ball handling. Or point JB if you like.

Hauser would be next to beat out. So, you'd have to really have 2-3 of X, Baylor, Springer or Walsh surpass Pritchard, then him in order to have any kind of issue. And it would be a good issue to have. And that's assuming Al and KP are around and playing. With less time from them, there's even more time before Hauser gets ousted.

[Hal14]

I'm surprised we're almost at 10 pages in this thread and there hasn't been much/any mention of Johnny Furphy. He seemed like a very similar option with a higher ceiling but 3 years younger and way less ready to potentially contribute right out of the gate.

It'll be interesting to see how he develops. Could be that he was the better option for us since we could have let him mature and benefited from his higher upside. Alternatively we could be forced to let Sam go sooner rather than later and having Baylor ready in the wings as the next man up pay dividends in a big way.

In light of Brad's comments on older players, I can see why we went Scheierman, but I do think at some stage we'll want to take some bigger swings on more high risk/reward type guys in the hopes we hit big to help out under the 2nd apron.

It's a fair question. I would say that the Celtics worked out 40 prospects ahead of the draft. Scheierman was 1 of them - Furphy was not.

The C's also had Scheirman in for a pre-draft workout in 2022 before he returned to college.

So we shouldn't really be surprised that the C's went Schierman over Furphy.

Secondly, you're acknowledging Brad's comments he made yesterday about the strategy/emphasis on targeting older/more developed prospects so the pick of Scheierman over Murphy shouldn't be surprising for that reason as well.

Brad basically said that unless you're drafting in the top 5 or 10 picks, age is less of a factor.

The reason for that is if you look at most of the stars in the league (SGA, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, Brown, Kyrie, LeBron, KD, Jokic, AD, Ant Edwards, Paolo, Wemby, Porzingis, Trae, Maxey) they were drafted at age 18/19. If you're getting a stud like that, it's typically in the top 5 or 10 picks.

But you look at the guys who have worked out really well in the league who were drafted later in the draft or were UDFA and they are typically guys who were older (age 21+) prospects like Jalen Brunson, Derrick White, Caleb Martin, Austin Reaves, Buddy Hield, Malcolm Brogdon, Sam Hauser, Payton Pritchard, Jalen Williams, Aaron Wiggins, Alex Caruso, TJ McConnell, Jimmy Butler, Jaime Jaquez, Max Strus, Herb Jones, Andrew Nembhard, Desmond Bane, etc.

If anything, I think the 2nd apron means we need to make sure we hit with as many of our draft picks as possible. Picking these 18/19 your old boom or bust projects, there's a higher likelihood that they bust, and the more times that happens (the more begarin/Madar/Walsh/Davison picks we have) the more that's gonna hurt.

A big reason we won the title this season was because we were able to find solid contributors on cheap rookie contracts - Hauser and Pritchard. Pritchard was drafted at age 22, Hauser was signed as UDFA at age 23.

Furphy might be 3 years younger than Schierman but that doesn't make him the better prospect. Begarin was like 5 yrs younger than Hauser - they were in the same draft class..who turned out better? Madar and Pritchard, same draft class - Madar was 3 yrs young..who turned out better?

D-white was 23 when he was drafted. He was 30th pick. That same draft class, Frank Ntkilina was the 8th pick and was 19 yrs old..who turned out better?

My own personal big board, I had Scheierman ranked 21st in this draft class, and Furphy ranked 37th. And that's even when factoring in their age. Despite the age difference, I had Scheirman ranked higher because:

-Scheierman is much stronger physically...Furphy is built like a twig, probably skinniest looking dude in this draft class

-Scheierman is much better at attacking closeouts, handling the basketball, creating his own shot..and creating shots for others, passing vision, feel for the game, etc.

-Scheirman's usage was 25%. Furphy's usage was 17% this season. There is some data I've collected looking at a sample size of 83 players. They're roughly the 83 best role players in the league right now. I looked at each player's usage % during their season before the NBA. Out of 83 players, only 5 of them (6%) had a usage % of under 18 and only 7 of them (8%) had a usage % of under 19. Most of the players in the sample were in that 24-30 range - where Sheierman was. And for the most part, the guys who were super low usage in college and did go on to be good NBA players were guys like Caruso or Thybulle - truly elite defenders or a guy like Duncan Robinson, a truly elite shooter. Furphy is not an elite shooter or defender.

-Furphy had an insanely low number of drives per game for a wing..someone on Twitter posted a chart for this and I believe he was lowest among all wings in the class. So he has very little ability to put the ball on the floor and attack closeouts, create his own shot. Hauser doesn't either, but he was at least better in college at doing it than Furphy. Hauser is also an elite shooter, which Furphy is not

-Ok, the shooting. Sheirerman this season: 38% from 3, 13 3PA/100 possessions, 87.6% FT. Plus was a very good movement shooter, got shooting off screens, off pin downs, etc. Compare that to Furphy: only 35.2% from 3, 9 3PA/100 possessions and 76.5% FT. Mostly open catch and shoot looks for Furphy with some small glimpses of movement shooting..Scheierman was much better at shooting off the dribble and much better at shooting coming off screens..

-Lastly, Scheierman isn't a very good defender but Furphy is worse defensively..Furphy is one of the worst defenders in this draft class

-Furphy is younger..and a little more athletic but due to all the other stuff I noted above, Schierman is the better prospect imo

TL/DR the combination of the crazy skinny body, bad defense and shooting that is good but not great and lack of ball handling/playmaking/shot creation and low usage % had me a bit lower on Furphy - but still had him ranked top 40. Scheirman with the *elite* shooting, higher usage, much better playmaking, handles, shot creation and stronger body, had me ranking him in the top 25 of this class..

[Hal14]

I see no issues playing both Hauser and Scheierman at the same time. Even for the long term. Assuming Scheierman can beat out Walsh, Springer and X for minutes. You have the basic 8 man rotation of:

Jrue, White, Pritchard
JT, JB, Hauser
Horford, KP

Then X, Springer, Walsh, Scheierman fight it out for the 9th & 10th spot minutes in the regular season. With KP out, Queta or Kornet or X get the main non-Horford minutes - but not full KP replacement minutes. You'd only go single big for the most part - maybe X with Al some. That frees up more time for those guys to fight over. And, you probably go 10 deep while KP is out.

One of those guys will emerge and you have a really solid 9-man with KP back:

Jrue, White, Pritchard
JT, JB, Hauser, <Battle Royale Winner>
Horford, KP

If Scheierman is the guy who emerges, that lineup still works great.

If things go great and two emerge, Pritchard is the next one they have to surpass. You just need to have at least one of Jrue, White, JT out there for ball handling. Or point JB if you like.

Hauser would be next to beat out. So, you'd have to really have 2-3 of X, Baylor, Springer or Walsh surpass Pritchard, then him in order to have any kind of issue. And it would be a good issue to have. And that's assuming Al and KP are around and playing. With less time from them, there's even more time before Hauser gets ousted.

Agreed - it all makes sense. I can see the vision.

And I like that as it stands now, Walsh/Schierman/Springer could all have a chance at getting some real playing time - if they earn it. Can't wait to see how Walsh and Schierman look in summer league! Assuming Springer won't play SL..

I think Hauser and Schierman on the team can work...in the short term. This season, it'll be fine.

But long term, it could get complicated..if Scheierman develops and becomes good enough to get consistent rotation mins. Then it's like him and Hauser are both bringing a lot of the same things to the table and they're both going to be wanting to play that 7th/8th man, backup wing role. But it's a good problem to have, I guess. And if it gets to that point (at least a year or 2 down the road) you probably could just trade Hauser I'm sure plenty of teams would want a solid 3&D sharpshooting wing who played a key role in winning a title, is still young, good teammate and reasonably priced contract)

But you worry about that down the road. This season, let's go win another title.

[djFan71]

But long term, it could get complicated..if Scheierman develops and becomes good enough to get consistent rotation mins. Then it's like him and Hauser are both bringing a lot of the same things to the table and they're both going to be wanting to play that 7th/8th man, backup wing role.

It probably depends on how much either develops the on-ball skills - Scheierman with the edge since he has those skills now. But, even if that doesn't translate and all he has left is a shot (which I doubt), having two 6-8" dudes that can space around a PG, JT or JB, and KP is a problem I can handle.

More likely it's a luxury you don't need, and you use one to fill another need. Most likely Sam due to $.

[threrf23]

First, we need a nickname for this guy. I've been calling him Baylor just cause it's simpler & shorter than Scheierman, but it feels awkward.

Second, I don't like all the Hauser comparisons.

Collegiate Hauser shot over 40% from three, on good volume, four straight seasons, showed great consistency. That is characteristic of an elite-ish three point shooter. Baylor might be a very good three point shooter, but on paper he doesn't measure up to the elite.

I'd say Hauser is also likely to remain the better defender, collegiate Hauser blocked about three times as many shots (per minute) as collegiate Scheierman, same foul efficiency. It maybe gives credence to the scouting reports that question his heavy feet.

And that stuff is kind of besides the point; Hauser is a great role player for us, because he specializes in the roles that we need from him. Scheierman, in theory if not reality, is a better overall player that demands a larger role; his offensive game is much more well rounded, he has played as a PG, he's a smart player and a good passer and a good shooter and a versatile scorer who makes his teammates better. He has the potential to become one of the league's better offensive players while finding a way to be effective on the defensive end.

[31to6]

Just call him BS. Not trying to be funny or insulting with it, just efficient. CHEIE is too much for these old thumbs!

[lon3lytoaster]

I think the redundancy is closer with Pritchard than Sam. Obviously there’s a pretty big height difference between PP and Baylor, but I see the later as having a lot of guard skills. Neither are really a point guard, and often do their best work with a live dribble as opposed to being spot up guys.

Sam is very much a catch and shoot specialist as we all know. Looks very uncomfortable taking more than 1-2 dribbles. Not much similarity in their games other than they’re both white, at similar heights and shoot a lot of threes.

[cl2117]

It's a fair question. I would say that the Celtics worked out 40 prospects ahead of the draft. Scheierman was 1 of them - Furphy was not.

The C's also had Scheirman in for a pre-draft workout in 2022 before he returned to college.

So we shouldn't really be surprised that the C's went Schierman over Furphy.

Secondly, you're acknowledging Brad's comments he made yesterday about the strategy/emphasis on targeting older/more developed prospects so the pick of Scheierman over Murphy shouldn't be surprising for that reason as well.

Brad basically said that unless you're drafting in the top 5 or 10 picks, age is less of a factor.

The reason for that is if you look at most of the stars in the league (SGA, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, Brown, Kyrie, LeBron, KD, Jokic, AD, Ant Edwards, Paolo, Wemby, Porzingis, Trae, Maxey) they were drafted at age 18/19. If you're getting a stud like that, it's typically in the top 5 or 10 picks.

But you look at the guys who have worked out really well in the league who were drafted later in the draft or were UDFA and they are typically guys who were older (age 21+) prospects like Jalen Brunson, Derrick White, Caleb Martin, Austin Reaves, Buddy Hield, Malcolm Brogdon, Sam Hauser, Payton Pritchard, Jalen Williams, Aaron Wiggins, Alex Caruso, TJ McConnell, Jimmy Butler, Jaime Jaquez, Max Strus, Herb Jones, Andrew Nembhard, Desmond Bane, etc.

If anything, I think the 2nd apron means we need to make sure we hit with as many of our draft picks as possible. Picking these 18/19 your old boom or bust projects, there's a higher likelihood that they bust, and the more times that happens (the more begarin/Madar/Walsh/Davison picks we have) the more that's gonna hurt.

A big reason we won the title this season was because we were able to find solid contributors on cheap rookie contracts - Hauser and Pritchard. Pritchard was drafted at age 22, Hauser was signed as UDFA at age 23.

Furphy might be 3 years younger than Schierman but that doesn't make him the better prospect. Begarin was like 5 yrs younger than Hauser - they were in the same draft class..who turned out better? Madar and Pritchard, same draft class - Madar was 3 yrs young..who turned out better?

D-white was 23 when he was drafted. He was 30th pick. That same draft class, Frank Ntkilina was the 8th pick and was 19 yrs old..who turned out better?

My own personal big board, I had Scheierman ranked 21st in this draft class, and Furphy ranked 37th. And that's even when factoring in their age. Despite the age difference, I had Scheirman ranked higher because:

-Scheierman is much stronger physically...Furphy is built like a twig, probably skinniest looking dude in this draft class

-Scheierman is much better at attacking closeouts, handling the basketball, creating his own shot..and creating shots for others, passing vision, feel for the game, etc.

-Scheirman's usage was 25%. Furphy's usage was 17% this season. There is some data I've collected looking at a sample size of 83 players. They're roughly the 83 best role players in the league right now. I looked at each player's usage % during their season before the NBA. Out of 83 players, only 5 of them (6%) had a usage % of under 18 and only 7 of them (8%) had a usage % of under 19. Most of the players in the sample were in that 24-30 range - where Sheierman was. And for the most part, the guys who were super low usage in college and did go on to be good NBA players were guys like Caruso or Thybulle - truly elite defenders or a guy like Duncan Robinson, a truly elite shooter. Furphy is not an elite shooter or defender.

-Furphy had an insanely low number of drives per game for a wing..someone on Twitter posted a chart for this and I believe he was lowest among all wings in the class. So he has very little ability to put the ball on the floor and attack closeouts, create his own shot. Hauser doesn't either, but he was at least better in college at doing it than Furphy. Hauser is also an elite shooter, which Furphy is not

-Ok, the shooting. Sheirerman this season: 38% from 3, 13 3PA/100 possessions, 87.6% FT. Plus was a very good movement shooter, got shooting off screens, off pin downs, etc. Compare that to Furphy: only 35.2% from 3, 9 3PA/100 possessions and 76.5% FT. Mostly open catch and shoot looks for Furphy with some small glimpses of movement shooting..Scheierman was much better at shooting off the dribble and much better at shooting coming off screens..

-Lastly, Scheierman isn't a very good defender but Furphy is worse defensively..Furphy is one of the worst defenders in this draft class

-Furphy is younger..and a little more athletic but due to all the other stuff I noted above, Schierman is the better prospect imo

TL/DR the combination of the crazy skinny body, bad defense and shooting that is good but not great and lack of ball handling/playmaking/shot creation and low usage % had me a bit lower on Furphy - but still had him ranked top 40. Scheirman with the *elite* shooting, higher usage, much better playmaking, handles, shot creation and stronger body, had me ranking him in the top 25 of this class..

It's all about balance in my opinion. You don't want to put all your eggs in either basket.

It's smart to snag guys who are older and more of a known quantity but due to the fact that they're older and further along in their developmental curve they're less likely to make big jumps (which is why they're not drafted higher despite having a higher floor). The younger guys are more likely to bust, but inherent in that is the fact that there is an unknown quantity that leaves more potential for them to grow more. I like the approach of taking shots at both.

The fact that Furphy is almost 4 years younger doesn't make him a better prospect than Scheierman but it does mean he has a wider possible range of outcomes (both good and bad). There's value in that, especially for a team that won't get a chance to take guys higher in the draft who might have more of the best of both worlds.

Jokic is the obvious example of one of those big swings paying off, but look at GG Jackson last year. There's obviously going to be more busts than booms, but if you do hit it could be a massive game changer. And that isn't to say that that's not still also true for some of the older guys, which is why a mixed approach works best, but again I think it's about the range of possible outcomes.

And it's also not necessarily an age thing, maybe they're later coming to basketball, maybe they've got an elite talent but still raw elsewhere, maybe they've got a unique physical profile but their skillset hasn't caught up to them. I like taking shots on guys who have that perceived higher ceiling even if it's more likely than not that they don't come close to reaching it.

You never know when you're going to hit on a Joker or a Tony Parker, but the same is true about guys like Brunson and Draymond. What you do know is that you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.

[hugepatsfan]

Yeah I totally agree that if he pans out (and not assuming that we trade anyone), I'd probably give him Pritchard's minutes before Hauser's. Seems like he can check the boxes Pritchard does as a floor space and supporting ball handler/playmaker without the size limitations on the defensive end.

Now, Pritchard has made himself into actually a good option on the ball against other small guards. It's why he was able to stick in this playoff rotation. But he benefited from us not having any tough wing matchups until the Finals (where he predictably struggled a lot on defense) and there's no guarantee that happens every deep playoff run. I'd say that Pritchard has worked as much as Hauser has to make his defense passable, but end of the day, there are just some size limitations he can't overcome. Hauser has the size to at least contest wings in ISO situations and at least try to bother the shot of guards who are quick enough to separate. Pritchard can't do that.

Scheierman will have to work like those guys did to make his defense passable. But if he does, he'll have the same inherent advantage over Pritchard on that end that Hauser does. But if he can work on that and his all around offensive game comes through, he'd be a potential upgrade over Pritchard in that backup guard role. It might require staggering minutes so one of Jrue/White are always out there with him, but you can easily do that.

[165bows]

Yeah I totally agree that if he pans out (and not assuming that we trade anyone), I'd probably give him Pritchard's minutes before Hauser's. Seems like he can check the boxes Pritchard does as a floor space and supporting ball handler/playmaker without the size limitations on the defensive end.

Now, Pritchard has made himself into actually a good option on the ball against other small guards. It's why he was able to stick in this playoff rotation. But he benefited from us not having any tough wing matchups until the Finals (where he predictably struggled a lot on defense) and there's no guarantee that happens every deep playoff run. I'd say that Pritchard has worked as much as Hauser has to make his defense passable, but end of the day, there are just some size limitations he can't overcome. Hauser has the size to at least contest wings in ISO situations and at least try to bother the shot of guards who are quick enough to separate. Pritchard can't do that.

Scheierman will have to work like those guys did to make his defense passable. But if he does, he'll have the same inherent advantage over Pritchard on that end that Hauser does. But if he can work on that and his all around offensive game comes through, he'd be a potential upgrade over Pritchard in that backup guard role. It might require staggering minutes so one of Jrue/White are always out there with him, but you can easily do that.

This kid’s going to be really really good. Concerns about his defense are over blown imo. One of the only teams to beat UConn, was the primary defender on Dalton Knecht and forced him to a 6-17 night, and guarded Devin Carter an elite athlete when they played Providence.

Going to be like Hauser when he makes the hand wringing seem silly.

[lon3lytoaster]

I think another fair comp here is Kevin Huerter. Both have some guard skills at that 6’6-6’7 height and can do some work off the dribble with their jumper. Closest game I can think of for best case scenario impact wise.

I worry a little bit about Shei’s shot at the NBA level. He very much has an average release point and shoots more of a set shot. Summer league will be an interesting indicator if he can start to get that off consistently against NBA length.

[shi-woo]

People are over analyzing this pick way too much in here

Baylor is a baller, and provides wing size while being a deadly accurate 3pnt shooter. Every team wants and needs those types of players. You can never have too many of them.

I think we all can agree we won't have the $$ to bring Hauser back after this run, so having another wing that can step in and contribute will be huge. Injuries also happen, and will our guys playing in the olympics, I expect us to rest the team a little more than usual this next year. They've played a lot of basketball.

We talk alot about older prospects vs young, and one thing a lot of people overlook is the years you have them under contract for cheap. A prospect, you might get 1 good year, and then have to guess what they will do in their prime and pay them off of that. For these guys that are older you are essentially getting their entire early prime, and paying them off of how they are contributing right now. Much better value especially if the upperclassman works out.

I think the Big East was a solid conference this year, and going through his game log and tape we can see what type of player he will be against NBA defenses.

18-9-5 against ORG in the tourney, bad shooting, but hit his 3's
18-8-6 against Nova
26-16-4 against MARQ
12-7-6 blowout win against UConn
20-6-9 against ALB

The dude played well in all of their high end games, and effected the game in other aspects. I like that he played well against teams that are well coached, and against teams with legit size. The assists are the thing that stands out the most when looking at his boxscore. 9 games of 6+ assists on the year is no joke, and shows the difference between him and other shooters. He's a smart offensive player that plays within the flow of the game, which is exactly what this team needs. 11 games with 4+ 3's made too.

If he can learn to play defense like Hauser, or just within the team, I think this kid can be a let guy to crack the rotation, and be in the 8 man.

And we'll have him signed for pennies through the entirety of his prime, which is are window to compete. That is awesome.

He reminds me a lot of Herro (Best Case) and Marco Beleneli (Middle case). We'll see if he can develop those passing and rebounding skills at the next level, or if he just becomes a specialist.

[celtxman]

Picking Scheierman is an extremely measured decision. It is more than just picking him and seeing how it works. Last year they turned a #25 overall pick for essentially 5 second round picks. With the punishing salary cap implications of keeping a first round pick , why didn't they just do the same thing with the 30th pick?
A possibility. They feel he can replace Hauser. The Celtics sign Hauser to a contract similar to Pritchard. They wait to see what Scheierman can really do and say he is what they expect. If he is they use Hauser's new salary towards getting a legitimate big player (Mark Williams, Nick Richards, Walker Kessler?)
Personally I'd love to see Queta get quality minutes at center as well to see if he is a keeper. But with the uncertainty of Porzingis injury and Horford's age, this may be the path (or trading Pritchard) to get a big. The mid level exception is a thing of the past for the Celtics.

[Shak_Celts]

Last season Walsh was drafted to take JBs spot (don’t remember who said it). Let these guys play first. You keep saying who we can’t keep because of money, that’s not our problem! Keep winning and the owners will pay!

If RICO becomes good enough to take Sam’s minutes then he’ll be damn good! I hope for that!! Not so we’ll be able to ship Sam out and save money, but because we’ll have two bench monsters!! In that scenario, I hope we can keep both if it’s only about money!!


I even hope Walsh is eventually as good or better (please!) than JB because baby, this team will be blessed and loaded for years to come!!

Wyc nem, KEEP THE CHECKBOOK OPEN!!!!!



To whoever called Baylor Rico first, genius! Thank you and I’m going to be using it!! That baby got in the mirror with that mustache (shaved now) and haircut and said, “nailed it!” Now I can’t unsee it!

[tlee324]

okay, now that I'm done giving him the "star treatment," I LOVE THIS PICK! Oso second round and i'll kiss Brad in the mouf!!

Whether it's money and a pick or just second round picks I wish we can trade up and target one of the better players.. I still believe there are quite a few really good gems waiting for us in round 2..

If we don't move up, I like Anton Watson at 54, if he is still available.

Great call!

[Hal14]

I think another fair comp here is Kevin Huerter.

Yup.

Zarren in an article the other day compared him to Kennard.

He's also gotten Joe Ingles comps.

You could also say Simone Fontecchio..or even Hauser, Duncan Robinson.

That's the archetype. It's an archetype that has produced some really solid role players. Guys who can shoot, with size and be a solid 7th/8th man at the least.

[ParticleMan]

I dunno, I keep going back to Scheierman's rebounding numbers. They are remarkable for a 6-6 wing without great athleticism or length. You don't get that without a lot of upper body strength, and at least some athleticism. He's not going to be a dominant rebounder in the NBA but rebounding is one of the things that translates surprisingly well, often more than shooting. To me this separates Scheier from a lot of his usual 3pt specialist comps like Hauser, Robinson, or Huerter. Intriguing player.

[cl2117]

I think we all can agree we won't have the $$ to bring Hauser back after this run, so having another wing that can step in and contribute will be huge. Injuries also happen, and will our guys playing in the olympics, I expect us to rest the team a little more than usual this next year. They've played a lot of basketball.

I take umbrage with the idea that we don't have the money to keep this team together.

I know how steep the penalties are for teams over the 2nd apron, but I'm really not having it if Wyc & co. start getting cheap on us. The value of this franchise has ballooned so significantly for them they don't have a leg to stand on in my eyes. And I appreciate the fact that value increase doesn't actually immediately translate to cash to pay for things, but there's absolutely ways these guys can fund the additional costs if they want to. If they start having short arms and deep pockets, like the Red Sox, we should riot.

Now if we end up needing to move guys around for roster construction reasons (e.g. needing big men rather than wings), I'm all for it, but if I start hearing that keeping core guys who are producing (or even fringe guys) isn't viable because it's too expensive then I want new ownership.

[sam_I_am]

Best case scenario is that Baylor is as good or better than Hauser and then we can have option to trade Hauser’s contract (12-20 million) for another position of need for 2025-26 season (ie. RW3) or even better keep both because they both play well together.

A worse case would be like Miami where Strus was so good that Robinson lost his spot and his contract became untradable and we end up losing Baylor but I think the 4 year rookie scale prevents that from happening.

[Chuck Everett]

Scheierman is going to kill it under Mazzulla.