2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[celtxman]

Jrue to Dallas

Kristaps and Klay Thompson to Orlando (desparately need shooting)

Pope, Harris 2nd from Orlando, 2nd from Boston to Brooklyn

Gafford, Carter Jr, Naji Marshall and Anthony Black to Boston

You HAVE to include the path to getting under the 2nd apron in these trades. In a vacuum I like the players you have coming back. But is the 2nd part trading Jrue almost solely as a salary dump to get under the 2nd apron? So you have to lose all the equivalent of Jrue's salary, and try to get cheaper but good players back.

they are under the 2nd apron with that trade.

They shed 21 million.

Good to know. But that doesn't include having to sign players to get to 14 (Horford/Kornet and a couple more)or did you include that?

[BleedGreen1989]

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I 100% think Jrue is going to end up in Sacramento

I want Murray in return.

I highly doubt sacramento gives up Keegan Murray for Jrue, given the age of both players and the age/contract combo for Jrue, as well as his declining performance, injuries..

And it's not like Jrue would magically make them a contender.

So I doubt Kings would do it.

But you never know..Sacramento has made some pretty bad moves over the years..but they have a new GM now..

Absolutely not. Few posters on this board overrate Celtics value more than Larry.

[celtxman]

Celtics reporting from Jake Fischer this morning:

In Boston's case: There was a considerable amount of chatter circulating amongst rival teams during NBA Draft Combine Week in Chicago last month that potential suitors for Kristaps Porziņģis or Jrue Holiday would want some sort of sweetener compensation attached by the Celtics in exchange for their willingness to take back those contracts.

Such mighty talk has begun to fade.

Boston is certainly looking to cut salary to reduce its luxury tax bill and duck under the second apron, but the Celtics are said to be conducting their mid-June business with confidence that they can make deals that bring positive value back to Boston, league sources say.

The Celtics are not operating to date like a team desperate to shed salary. They have also given some rival teams a sense that a sequence of trades could be coming that merely start in the offseason and potentially even continue up to the in-season trade deadline ... such as dealing away Porzingis' $30.7 million contract for a lesser salary in return and then attempting to trim costs again before the February trade buzzer.

That would actually be similar to the chain of events that landed Holiday with the Celtics in the first place, when Portland moved on from players it acquired in the Damian Lillard blockbuster in stages.

Boston is believed to be open to listening to any player on its roster not named Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I'd put Payton Pritchard and Derrick White right behind those two franchise cornerstones as extremely hard-to-get as well.

The Celtics would likely have to listen to any ultra-aggressive offer for this season's Sixth Man of the Year, but Pritchard is currently projected to shoulder a significant role in Boston's offense for the 2025-26 season, with the Celtics hopeful of remaining competitive in the Eastern Conference even while Tatum is on the mend from his devastating Achilles tear. White, meanwhile, has been so essential to Boston on both sides of the floor that it sounds as though the Celtics would need their version of the offer that blew away Brooklyn and forced the Nets to part with Mikal Bridges to entertain surrendering him.

This lines up with what I think they should do. Trade Jrue for essentially no salary coming back and hopefully something more in return like picks.

After that trade other teams know they can't hold the 2nd apron over their head. Then on to KP. The offer has to be one that would be as good as if this were a healthy Porzingis at the trade deadline. If not wait.

Getting something from each trade (Jrue/KP ) is good too.

I find it hard to see Hauser back with all of the financial stuff

[celtxman]

I want Murray in return.

I highly doubt sacramento gives up Keegan Murray for Jrue, given the age of both players and the age/contract combo for Jrue, as well as his declining performance, injuries..

And it's not like Jrue would magically make them a contender.

So I doubt Kings would do it.

But you never know..Sacramento has made some pretty bad moves over the years..but they have a new GM now..

Absolutely not. Few posters on this board overrate Celtics value more than Larry.

I don't think Sacramento is good enough to go after Jrue. But I have to say I'm not super high on Murray anyway.

[GoCeltics123]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

[165bows]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

Yeah that’s my first thought re: the Kings, they don’t have anything to offer.

[playa-hater]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

Yeah that’s my first thought re: the Kings, they don’t have anything to offer.

I am not sure I understand this. Don't the kings have quite a few first round picks because of the fox trade? Even if they do not come this season.

[playa-hater]

Obviously I have no idea, but I can't figure out a better offer. Then from Houston trading their,10 pick. And FVV as a salary filler.for Jrue

[TSmith0197]

Celtics reporting from Jake Fischer this morning:

In Boston's case: There was a considerable amount of chatter circulating amongst rival teams during NBA Draft Combine Week in Chicago last month that potential suitors for Kristaps Porziņģis or Jrue Holiday would want some sort of sweetener compensation attached by the Celtics in exchange for their willingness to take back those contracts.

Such mighty talk has begun to fade.

Boston is certainly looking to cut salary to reduce its luxury tax bill and duck under the second apron, but the Celtics are said to be conducting their mid-June business with confidence that they can make deals that bring positive value back to Boston, league sources say.

The Celtics are not operating to date like a team desperate to shed salary. They have also given some rival teams a sense that a sequence of trades could be coming that merely start in the offseason and potentially even continue up to the in-season trade deadline ... such as dealing away Porzingis' $30.7 million contract for a lesser salary in return and then attempting to trim costs again before the February trade buzzer.

That would actually be similar to the chain of events that landed Holiday with the Celtics in the first place, when Portland moved on from players it acquired in the Damian Lillard blockbuster in stages.

Boston is believed to be open to listening to any player on its roster not named Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I'd put Payton Pritchard and Derrick White right behind those two franchise cornerstones as extremely hard-to-get as well.

The Celtics would likely have to listen to any ultra-aggressive offer for this season's Sixth Man of the Year, but Pritchard is currently projected to shoulder a significant role in Boston's offense for the 2025-26 season, with the Celtics hopeful of remaining competitive in the Eastern Conference even while Tatum is on the mend from his devastating Achilles tear. White, meanwhile, has been so essential to Boston on both sides of the floor that it sounds as though the Celtics would need their version of the offer that blew away Brooklyn and forced the Nets to part with Mikal Bridges to entertain surrendering him.

This lines up with what I think they should do. Trade Jrue for essentially no salary coming back and hopefully something more in return like picks.

After that trade other teams know they can't hold the 2nd apron over their head. Then on to KP. The offer has to be one that would be as good as if this were a healthy Porzingis at the trade deadline. If not wait.

Getting something from each trade (Jrue/KP ) is good too.

I find it hard to see Hauser back with all of the financial stuff

The only team that can essentially trade with no salary coming back is the Nets, every team over the 2nd apron are going to be calling them.

[keevsnick1]

My first instinct was to think that Jrue Holiday would probably be a negative value contract that would take a first to move off, and Kristaps was at best neutral value. But there's been enough rumors and chatter of teams being interested in Jrue that I've become more optimistic they can move off his money and at the very least not have to give up assets to do so. Maybe all the chatter is just the Celtics front office working the room, but between the Clipper, Mavs and Kings rumors it seems like there's enough interest the Celtics may be able to get salary relief AND get back positive player/asset value, even if its just small value.

If that's true then maybe it's even possible they could get under the luxury tax and reset repeater penalties, something I've been pretty skeptical was possible. Of course that would mean being worse next year, but probably better to do it now then when Tatum is back healthy.

[Celts17Pride]

Obviously I have no idea, but I can't figure out a better offer. Then from Houston trading their,10 pick. And FVV as a salary filler.for Jrue

Doesn't work. FVV makes a ton more than Jrue Holiday. Have to have a 3rd team involved.

[playa-hater]

Obviously I have no idea, but I can't figure out a better offer. Then from Houston trading their,10 pick. And FVV as a salary filler.for Jrue

Doesn't work. FVV makes a ton more than Jrue Holiday. Have to have a 3rd team involved.

I thought there was a way to release him after the trade. But I guess we have to fit him in first.

[celticgreenie]

Rumors are Jordan Poole is on the market again. Celtics were interested in him before going with the Porzingis trade. I'm not a Poole guy but I wonder if Brad kicks the tires again.

[yeleven11]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

Bro that guy made it sound like the Jrue Holiday value is HIGH. LETS GOOOOO

[Larry_Russell]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

Yeah that’s my first thought re: the Kings, they don’t have anything to offer.

Only keegan.

And thats iffy

[djFan71]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

Bro that guy made it sound like the Jrue Holiday value is HIGH. LETS GOOOOO

Jeesh, better than Carter & Keegan and picks??? Dang.

[Curmudgeon]

Jordan Poole? He's even worse than Kyle Kuzma.

[165bows]

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At 37:30 of this, they report that the Kings checked in on Jrue, but were told that there were better offers on the table

Bro that guy made it sound like the Jrue Holiday value is HIGH. LETS GOOOOO

Jeesh, better than Carter & Keegan and picks??? Dang.

That’s the issue with listening to random posters on this site. They’ll tell you the Celtics are a super team then next instant they’ll turn so fast they’ll whiplash themselves saying every guy they can lay eyes on is a negative value.

[djFan71]

Bro that guy made it sound like the Jrue Holiday value is HIGH. LETS GOOOOO

Jeesh, better than Carter & Keegan and picks??? Dang.

That’s the issue with listening to random posters on this site. They’ll tell you the Celtics are a super team then next instant they’ll turn so fast they’ll whiplash themselves saying every guy they can lay eyes on is a negative value.

Trade board for sure. Every trade Jrue is 2 shovels away from his coffin being completely buried. It makes you end up offering stuff you later look at and go, nah, we’re getting ripped off here. My theory now is to see what will get agreement and know Brad will do better than that.

[Curmudgeon]

All roads lead through the Brooklyn Nets with all that cap space and all those draft picks. They can make deals and they can broker deals.