Official Draft Thread 2015-16

[Gomes3PC]

Seriously Hield is tremendously overrated he is a 1st round pick mainly due to this been a weak-ass class, in any other draft he would be a borderline 1st.
No way you should touch him in the lotto, and his ceiling is a good starter if his defense gets to the level where you can start him, thats pretty much it, he lacks creativity and versatility, his game is pretty one dimensional.

Murray is another story, but he is flawed as a prospect and he has little potential as a two-way player without the tools, in terms of athleticism, elite handle, or quickness, to be your primary ballhandler/perimeter reference, I like him as an off-the-ball shooter that has poise, skill and can attack some close-outs, and I'd consider him only in top10 with the Pelicans pick because they need what he offers like crazy, but his bust potential is high and for a team like Boston that is really deep at Guard he makes 0 sense.

Am I off in thinking about Jamal Murray as a lite-version of Jason Terry?

[No-Man]

Seriously Hield is tremendously overrated he is a 1st round pick mainly due to this been a weak-ass class, in any other draft he would be a borderline 1st.
No way you should touch him in the lotto, and his ceiling is a good starter if his defense gets to the level where you can start him, thats pretty much it, he lacks creativity and versatility, his game is pretty one dimensional.

Murray is another story, but he is flawed as a prospect and he has little potential as a two-way player without the tools, in terms of athleticism, elite handle, or quickness, to be your primary ballhandler/perimeter reference, I like him as an off-the-ball shooter that has poise, skill and can attack some close-outs, and I'd consider him only in top10 with the Pelicans pick because they need what he offers like crazy, but his bust potential is high and for a team like Boston that is really deep at Guard he makes 0 sense.

Am I off in thinking about Jamal Murray as a lite-version of Jason Terry?

I think Terry was quicker and Murray is a bit bigger, but not at all

[DakoBarr]

I just think we need to collect versatile forwards like they're foil Pokemon cards now that we're closer to contending. Taurean Prince, Nigel Hayes, some of those Euro guys. I'd be down to take Prince with the Mavs pick if let's say Skal isn't there. Then we could take Luwawu or Brown with our Nets pick if they're BPA. Just have a farm for VFs. Figure out placement as we go. Seeing what's happened with Crowder down after all. Most important type of player, we need like 4/5 of em at least.

I like this draft. Maybe I'm foolish. I think it's 6 deep now that I've watched some Luwawu highlights. Haha!

[robbie84]

Hield has taken his game to another level.
His main nba improvements are his handle and his creativity in the pick and roll, let alone his insane shooting balance.
The guy, like Lillard as a senior, has the potential to be the #3 pick.
He's awesome and is going to be a great nba scorer.
The question mark is going to be his D. He's smart and has great anticipation so this can hopefully be overcome.

I will not be surprised to see Hield go #3.

[No-Man]

Hield has taken his game to another level.
His main nba improvements are his handle and his creativity in the pick and roll, let alone his insane shooting balance.
The guy, like Lillard as a senior, has the potential to be the #3 pick.
He's awesome and is going to be a great nba scorer.
The question mark is going to be his D. He's smart and has great anticipation so this can hopefully be overcome.

I will not be surprised to see Hield go #3.

Hield has 0 shot at going in the top5 let alone top3.

His creativity is still low, same with his handle, Cousins is the guy that leads the way playmaking-wise for that team.

Hield is not going to be making plays with the ball at the next level, neither is he projected to be a great scorer, he is basically a straight line driver that is going to live off-the-ball and how good he gets to be defensively is what is going to mark his ceiling.

The spot to pick him is around 15-20 and because this class is weak, in a normal Draft he would 100% in the 20s.
If anybody reaches for him in the top10 they are going to get their Front Office fired in a couple years.

[No-Man]

I just think we need to collect versatile forwards like they're foil Pokemon cards now that we're closer to contending. Taurean Prince, Nigel Hayes, some of those Euro guys. I'd be down to take Prince with the Mavs pick if let's say Skal isn't there. Then we could take Luwawu or Brown with our Nets pick if they're BPA. Just have a farm for VFs. Figure out placement as we go. Seeing what's happened with Crowder down after all. Most important type of player, we need like 4/5 of em at least.

I like this draft. Maybe I'm foolish. I think it's 6 deep now that I've watched some Luwawu highlights. Haha!

This is the way to think 100% although there are a few bigs that trump some forwards in potential, but it is a safe route for sure.

[Shamrock]

Ingram showed every move in the book today. Scored 20 on 7/12 shooting, had 9 boards and 2 blocks. Had a very impressive game today

Agreed, very impressive outing for him. He has a very underrated BBIQ and his length is freaky.

[Duke4life831]

Ingram showed every move in the book today. Scored 20 on 7/12 shooting, had 9 boards and 2 blocks. Had a very impressive game today

Agreed, very impressive outing for him. He has a very underrated BBIQ and his length is freaky.

His wingspan is 7'3 and standing reach at 9'1.5 are the measurements of the average center in the NBA. Ingram has the potential to play the 2, that is scary length for the 2 or 3. I agree his BBIQ is very underrated especially for a kid that just turned 18 at the start of the season. His vision isn't close to Simmons but it still is pretty damn good though

[shawn unkempt]

Which guy has no real skills but hustles? That's probably who we'll draft.

[Edug27]

Ingram showed every move in the book today. Scored 20 on 7/12 shooting, had 9 boards and 2 blocks. Had a very impressive game today

Agreed, very impressive outing for him. He has a very underrated BBIQ and his length is freaky.

His wingspan is 7'3 and standing reach at 9'1.5 are the measurements of the average center in the NBA. Ingram has the potential to play the 2, that is scary length for the 2 or 3. I agree his BBIQ is very underrated especially for a kid that just turned 18 at the start of the season. His vision isn't close to Simmons but it still is pretty damn good though

You think Ingram has potential to play SG?!

[Slartibartfast]

Outrageous MSU flameout notwithstanding, I'm all in for Denzel Valentine with the Dallas pick. Cheap ET replacement who should be a rotation regular by his second season.

Then take a flyer on Skal if he stays and falls with our own pick.

Barring top 2 jump, trade BK pick in package for a star.

[robbie84]

Hield has taken his game to another level.
His main nba improvements are his handle and his creativity in the pick and roll, let alone his insane shooting balance.
The guy, like Lillard as a senior, has the potential to be the #3 pick.
He's awesome and is going to be a great nba scorer.
The question mark is going to be his D. He's smart and has great anticipation so this can hopefully be overcome.

I will not be surprised to see Hield go #3.

Hield has 0 shot at going in the top5 let alone top3.

His creativity is still low, same with his handle, Cousins is the guy that leads the way playmaking-wise for that team.

Hield is not going to be making plays with the ball at the next level, neither is he projected to be a great scorer, he is basically a straight line driver that is going to live off-the-ball and how good he gets to be defensively is what is going to mark his ceiling.

The spot to pick him is around 15-20 and because this class is weak, in a normal Draft he would 100% in the 20s.
If anybody reaches for him in the top10 they are going to get their Front Office fired in a couple years.

You're way off with Hield. I'm sorry but you sound like you've watched him 2 seasons ago and that he's just some spot up long range shooter. A straight line driver? He's a monster in transition and in the pick and roll.
I really couldn't be bothered getting into this right now. Just watch these if you want some recent evaluation of his game, pretty good examples.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WbCMPWPFmw[/youtube]


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w_DVvCmYAQ[/youtube]

[No-Man]

Seriously if you think that his first step or ballhandling are going to cut it in half court settings at the next level, goodluck with that.
He is a guy with range that can get out of screens and run the floor, but he is not going to be running pick&rolls at the next level or looking for his shot in isos, he is active defending the balls or looking for the steal, but mediocre in defensive rotations.

[Duke4life831]

Agreed, very impressive outing for him. He has a very underrated BBIQ and his length is freaky.

His wingspan is 7'3 and standing reach at 9'1.5 are the measurements of the average center in the NBA. Ingram has the potential to play the 2, that is scary length for the 2 or 3. I agree his BBIQ is very underrated especially for a kid that just turned 18 at the start of the season. His vision isn't close to Simmons but it still is pretty damn good though

You think Ingram has potential to play SG?!

Ya. He definitely has the potential to play the 2. His defense will allow him to guard 2s and his offensive game will allow him to play the 2

[Murta]

His wingspan is 7'3 and standing reach at 9'1.5 are the measurements of the average center in the NBA. Ingram has the potential to play the 2, that is scary length for the 2 or 3. I agree his BBIQ is very underrated especially for a kid that just turned 18 at the start of the season. His vision isn't close to Simmons but it still is pretty damn good though

You think Ingram has potential to play SG?!

Ya. He definitely has the potential to play the 2. His defense will allow him to guard 2s and his offensive game will allow him to play the 2

I highly doubt it. Durant and Pierce tried to play SG, both were awesome concepts in theory but failed miserably (as miserably as those two could) in actual games.

[Edug27]

You think Ingram has potential to play SG?!

Ya. He definitely has the potential to play the 2. His defense will allow him to guard 2s and his offensive game will allow him to play the 2

I highly doubt it. Durant and Pierce tried to play SG, both were awesome concepts in theory but failed miserably (as miserably as those two could) in actual games.

Yea don't see it either. At all.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Given how under developed he is physically, Ingram will need to start out as a SG to limit his exposure defensively. Long term though, he is an ideal 3.

[Cornbread]

The big thing is that he projects to be a wing with enough versatility to be able to switch on defense when needed. That is a really important component of anyone playing in Stevens' schemes. Ingram may never be an ideal 2, but he should be able to cover most 2's in bursts.

[Wes-J]

Seriously if you think that his first step or ballhandling are going to cut it in half court settings at the next level, goodluck with that.
He is a guy with range that can get out of screens and run the floor, but he is not going to be running pick&rolls at the next level or looking for his shot in isos, he is active defending the balls or looking for the steal, but mediocre in defensive rotations.

You're waaay overanalyzing this.

If JJ Barea can get into the lane.....

Anyway we get it dude, he's awful in your expert opinion, but I'm going to watch both Hield and Murray go top 10. Depending on where we land love to get one of them.

[lon3lytoaster]

Given how under developed he is physically, Ingram will need to start out as a SG to limit his exposure defensively. Long term though, he is an ideal 3.

That's the exact same thing PJ Carlisimo said about Durant his rookie year in Seattle. It was a mistake playing him there and if I recall correctly Durant struggled quite a bit playing the 2. Don't see the fit and I could see it slightly hindering development.