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The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0)

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Re: The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0) 

Post#1801 » by TheOGJabroni » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:10 pm

I actually don't know if I understand parting with Smart over Brown. Brown will surely have more value around the league so in theory, we could include less in a trade going out. Smart is invaluable to a winning team now, Brown not so much. If we acquire Butler, Brown will be relegated to the bench for the foreseeable future. Smart will always have a spot on the court.
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Post#1802 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:10 pm

Trolling is **** awesome. Props to Dre and Isaiah for trolling us.
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Post#1803 » by sully00 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:11 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?


My head. I am one of the biggest Marcus Smart honks in the world and I generally kill Drummond for his lack of offensive range but I am carrying his bags to the airport for this type of deal. Drummond is 23 years old and the premier rebounder and defender in the game. I will miss Marcus but wow.

Not a lot of players I would be willing to just give up Smart and BRK' 17 or '18 for but he is on the short list.
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Post#1804 » by Valid » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:11 pm

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CelticFaninLBC wrote:So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?


People are too attached to Smart. I admit Smart is playing well but beside Olynyc the Celtics bigs are awful. Drummond isn't a perfect fit but he would easily be the best Celtic rebounders since Dave Cowens.

We are attached to him because he is really freaking good, not to mention that there is actually evidence that Drummond makes his team's defense worse.

I'm a UConn fan, so I love Drummond and I would love to have him, but I'm not about to trade Smart for him.

Bradley? Sure. Smart? No.
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Post#1805 » by greenroom31 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:11 pm

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greenroom31 wrote:So there's been 10 pages of speculation about a Drummond trade because... he posted the eyeballs emoji after IT did?

Otherwise I have read/seen/heard nothing to suggest Detroit would do this, or is even considering trading Drummond. The Pistons poster couldn't give a reason why they would do it either other than they'd like our Brooklyn pick. Well no **** they would -- so would everyone else -- that doesn't mean every team is going to trade their franchise player to us.

If the Pistons trade Drummond they would still have a roster loaded with $10+ million long-term contracts for guys like Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, Jon Leuer and then $5+ million guys Ish Smith, Boban and Marcus Morris. Those are the guys they need to find takers for, not Drummond. It doesn't make sense, and there's no rumors to suggest it does.

I mean feel free to talk about whatever you want, but just keep in mind that there really is no smoke here... just a trolling tweet.


You have to wonder why Drummond would retweet IT's eyeball tweet, though. Doesn't make much sense. Why would Drummond be following or even paying attention to IT? It's happening, I know it. The eyes never lie. :angel:


Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I'll respond as surely others agree with your post. I think Drummond did it for the most obvious reason: people were going crazy over IT's tweet and it went viral immediately and he thought it was funny so he figured he'd join in on the trolling. Hell, when Mike Zarren takes to Twitter to post about how people are freaking out, you know we're reaching peak-crazy.
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Post#1806 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:12 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Trolling is **** awesome. Props to Dre and Isaiah for trolling us.

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Post#1807 » by sully00 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:12 pm

Valid wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?


People are too attached to Smart. I admit Smart is playing well but beside Olynyc the Celtics bigs are awful. Drummond isn't a perfect fit but he would easily be the best Celtic rebounders since Dave Cowens.

We are attached to him because he is really freaking good, not to mention that there is actually evidence that Drummond makes his team's defense worse.

I'm a UConn fan, so I love Drummond and I would love to have him, but I'm not about to trade Smart for him.

Bradley? Sure. Smart? No.


What evidence is there that Drummond makes his team's defense worse?
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Post#1808 » by Valid » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:15 pm

sully00 wrote:
Valid wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
People are too attached to Smart. I admit Smart is playing well but beside Olynyc the Celtics bigs are awful. Drummond isn't a perfect fit but he would easily be the best Celtic rebounders since Dave Cowens.

We are attached to him because he is really freaking good, not to mention that there is actually evidence that Drummond makes his team's defense worse.

I'm a UConn fan, so I love Drummond and I would love to have him, but I'm not about to trade Smart for him.

Bradley? Sure. Smart? No.


What evidence is there that Drummond makes his team's defense worse?

I mean, the Pistons' defense is 10 points better per 100 possessions when he is off the floor. That's not some minute and negligible difference where you can say "what's the context?" That's a huge disparity, and the problem with Drummond is he doesn't have the offensive game to nullify/counter that.
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Post#1809 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:17 pm

sully00 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?


My head. I am one of the biggest Marcus Smart honks in the world and I generally kill Drummond for his lack of offensive range but I am carrying his bags to the airport for this type of deal. Drummond is 23 years old and the premier rebounder and defender in the game. I will miss Marcus but wow.

Not a lot of players I would be willing to just give up Smart and BRK' 17 or '18 for but he is on the short list.


Boston has a surplus of guys who can play guard (IT, AB, Smart, Rozier & Brown), and very few good bigs... Someone has to get dealt eventually to balance the roster...
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Post#1810 » by Valid » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:18 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
sully00 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?


My head. I am one of the biggest Marcus Smart honks in the world and I generally kill Drummond for his lack of offensive range but I am carrying his bags to the airport for this type of deal. Drummond is 23 years old and the premier rebounder and defender in the game. I will miss Marcus but wow.

Not a lot of players I would be willing to just give up Smart and BRK' 17 or '18 for but he is on the short list.


Boston has a surplus of guys who can play guard (IT, AB, Smart, Rozier & Brown), and very few good bigs... Someone has to get dealt eventually to balance the roster...

Yeah, and that someone should be Bradley; not Smart.
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Post#1811 » by sully00 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:19 pm

greenroom31 wrote:So there's been 10 pages of speculation about a Drummond trade because... he posted the eyeballs emoji after IT did?

Otherwise I have read/seen/heard nothing to suggest Detroit would do this, or is even considering trading Drummond. The Pistons poster couldn't give a reason why they would do it either other than they'd like our Brooklyn pick. Well no **** they would -- so would everyone else -- that doesn't mean every team is going to trade their franchise player to us.

If the Pistons trade Drummond they would still have a roster loaded with $10+ million long-term contracts for guys like Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, Jon Leuer and then $5+ million guys Ish Smith, Boban and Marcus Morris. Those are the guys they need to find takers for, not Drummond. It doesn't make sense, and there's no rumors to suggest it does.

I mean feel free to talk about whatever you want, but just keep in mind that there really is no smoke here... just a trolling tweet.


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Post#1812 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Valid wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
sully00 wrote:
My head. I am one of the biggest Marcus Smart honks in the world and I generally kill Drummond for his lack of offensive range but I am carrying his bags to the airport for this type of deal. Drummond is 23 years old and the premier rebounder and defender in the game. I will miss Marcus but wow.

Not a lot of players I would be willing to just give up Smart and BRK' 17 or '18 for but he is on the short list.


Boston has a surplus of guys who can play guard (IT, AB, Smart, Rozier & Brown), and very few good bigs... Someone has to get dealt eventually to balance the roster...

Yeah, and that someone should be Bradley; not Smart.


Ideally yes. Can't see why Detroit would want AB. Have to get a 3rd team involved.
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Post#1813 » by Valid » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:22 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Valid wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Boston has a surplus of guys who can play guard (IT, AB, Smart, Rozier & Brown), and very few good bigs... Someone has to get dealt eventually to balance the roster...

Yeah, and that someone should be Bradley; not Smart.


Ideally yes. Can't see why Detroit would want AB. Have to get a 3rd team involved.

I agree, but who says we have to deal with Detroit? If we can't get Drummond without including Smart, it's a solid pass for me.
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Post#1814 » by greenroom31 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:23 pm

sully00 wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:So there's been 10 pages of speculation about a Drummond trade because... he posted the eyeballs emoji after IT did?

Otherwise I have read/seen/heard nothing to suggest Detroit would do this, or is even considering trading Drummond. The Pistons poster couldn't give a reason why they would do it either other than they'd like our Brooklyn pick. Well no **** they would -- so would everyone else -- that doesn't mean every team is going to trade their franchise player to us.

If the Pistons trade Drummond they would still have a roster loaded with $10+ million long-term contracts for guys like Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, Jon Leuer and then $5+ million guys Ish Smith, Boban and Marcus Morris. Those are the guys they need to find takers for, not Drummond. It doesn't make sense, and there's no rumors to suggest it does.

I mean feel free to talk about whatever you want, but just keep in mind that there really is no smoke here... just a trolling tweet.


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Ok -- I'd just like to clarify your comment. Is the message that we shouldn't discuss whether or not the rumors are credible or make sense? If so that's fine, just want to be sure I understand.
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Post#1815 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:23 pm

Valid wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?


People are too attached to Smart. I admit Smart is playing well but beside Olynyc the Celtics bigs are awful. Drummond isn't a perfect fit but he would easily be the best Celtic rebounders since Dave Cowens.

We are attached to him because he is really freaking good, not to mention that there is actually evidence that Drummond makes his team's defense worse.

I'm a UConn fan, so I love Drummond and I would love to have him, but I'm not about to trade Smart for him.

Bradley? Sure. Smart? No.


I am not convinced that Drummond makes the Celtics defense that much worse where it will be departmental to the team. I do agree his FT are an issue but then again so is Smarts offense at times. Drummond fixes the teams biggest issues which is rebounding.

Also I don't think Drummond being traded to boston is anything more than someones idea on here. I don't think there is really much to worry about.
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Post#1816 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:24 pm

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OFWGKTA wrote:I'm gonna **** lose it if we trade Smart

same. I want him on the floor to grab the 50/50 balls and do all the things



If you zoom in on the Celtics logo you realize it's actually Smart's face

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Post#1817 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:25 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Valid wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Boston has a surplus of guys who can play guard (IT, AB, Smart, Rozier & Brown), and very few good bigs... Someone has to get dealt eventually to balance the roster...

Yeah, and that someone should be Bradley; not Smart.


Ideally yes. Can't see why Detroit would want AB. Have to get a 3rd team involved.


If the Celtics make a trade for another team's star player the Celtics player who is most likely to go is Jae Crowder. The team trading their star is going to want to get a player back that is on a good contract and is going to be around for a while. No team is going to trade their star for a guy that can walk away for nothing in a year (Bradley). This is some pretty basic stuff.

The team would be rebuilding and they would want a guy they can build with.
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Post#1818 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:25 pm

the eyes omfg
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Post#1819 » by liveod » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:25 pm

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Post#1820 » by Han Solo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:27 pm

Drummond won't get moved for just Smart. Have to think a pick is involved.

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