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The Pursuit of Paul George

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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1801 » by 165bows » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:23 pm

truth18 wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:If part 2 isn't titled "The summer of George." you have all failed (Of course most people on here may not get the Seinfeld reference)


Lmao this HAS to be part two.

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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1802 » by KGboss » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:23 pm

London2Boston wrote:Smart
Brown
Tatum
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Zizic if he's here if not then another ring chaser.
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Very young bench, but it could be a lot worse. Helps that Brown and Tatum can shuffle along a couple positions too depending on what vet we can grab.


We need a list of possible vet min guys next year.

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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1803 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:25 pm

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Just for clarity, and mercy on those with brainlock, this means the following players would be gone: Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, James Young, Jordan Mickey, Tyler Zeller and Kelly Olynyk. Plus the names that hurt: Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley, and Terry Rozier.

Correct? Did I leave anyone out?

But maybe it's possible to keep Rozier and his measly 2 million? Possibly if Hayward signed for slightly less?

Also theoretically a guy like Gerald Green could be back as a minimum salary player, right?

Hayward taking a pay cut would be glorious.


So the only returning players would be Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Al Horford. Maybe Rozier under certain circumstances, and theoretically Green is possible too.

All our UFAs (Green, Young, Amir, Jerebko) can theoretically return if they accept the minimum or whatever exceptions are available to us. Zeller, Crowder, and Bradley are 99.98% gone.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1804 » by AgentGreen » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:27 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:I have a hard believing PG would leave a stacked team to go play with Lakers that had been awful the last 4 years.


Plus that the Warriors will dominate the west for the next 5 years while he could challenge the Warriors the next 5 years in the Finals with Boston.. If he's a true professional he'll sign a extension in Boston.

And it makes the LAL guys etc. get egg on their face again.. If LAL media/lovers/groupies told us the truth, which isn't the case of course, but they did? All superstars wouldve been playing for LA right now.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1805 » by Green_teamer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:28 pm

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Post#1806 » by jmr07019 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:29 pm

Maybe the moves can be executed in tandem so that Hayward takes a few mil less and a george gets a few mil more. Each get a starting salary around 25 in year 1
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1807 » by Gant » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:29 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:
Gant wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Hayward taking a pay cut would be glorious.


So the only returning players would be Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Al Horford. Maybe Rozier under certain circumstances, and theoretically Green is possible too.

All our UFAs (Green, Young, Amir, Jerebko) can theoretically return if they accept the minimum or whatever exceptions are available to us. Zeller, Crowder, and Bradley are 99.98% gone.


What a huge turnover. It'll be about 9 or 10 new players, plus a few extra on 2-ways.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1808 » by Green_teamer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:31 pm

Gant wrote:
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Gant wrote:
So the only returning players would be Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Al Horford. Maybe Rozier under certain circumstances, and theoretically Green is possible too.

All our UFAs (Green, Young, Amir, Jerebko) can theoretically return if they accept the minimum or whatever exceptions are available to us. Zeller, Crowder, and Bradley are 99.98% gone.


What a huge turnover. It'll be about 9 or 10 new players, plus a few extra on 2-ways.


But less turnover than 2007
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Post#1809 » by Disinformation » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:34 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:At work so I can't add too much, but have a third-hand source who told me the deal for PG is done. Will add details later.

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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1810 » by CavemanDoctor » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:35 pm

If what Adam referenced ends up yielding PG, then how amazing does the trade with Philly look?

Also, "thin bench" is the most overrated thing in basketball. It's trivially easy to fill out a solid bench.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1811 » by Jaqua92 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:35 pm

Bar Fight wrote:
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Bar Fight wrote:I'm down if we get an extension. No extension, and I'm fairly sure he leaves the Celtics for the Lakers next offseason.


If he joins a team that might end up being the next super team there's zero chance he leaves for LA. None.

Except for the fact that he's already flat out said he'd like to play for the Lakers. He's been tied to them for about a year now. And they have time to make moves to bring in other stars along with him.

Why are people acting like he didn't say he'd prefer the Lakers? I'm just taking the guy at his word. I've never had any reason to believe Paul George is a liar.


People are reading waaayy too much into this narrative the media has pushed. His agent said they plan to go to LA. George said he prefers LA. People close to him have said Boston is a good long term fit for him. He wants to play with Hayward.

He simply said he prefers LA. I prefer to have my own therapy practice in NH, but it may not be the case and I'll still be happy and successful opening one here. It's just an expressed preference, one of which the perception of has been skewed by the media, rationalization, paranoia, and bias.

You take this chance. Him leaving for LA is not set in stone. Him staying doesn't make him a liar either. WAY too many semantics going on with this LA thing. It's such a story. A preference, sure, but that's all it is.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1812 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:36 pm

Gant wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
Gant wrote:
So the only returning players would be Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Al Horford. Maybe Rozier under certain circumstances, and theoretically Green is possible too.

All our UFAs (Green, Young, Amir, Jerebko) can theoretically return if they accept the minimum or whatever exceptions are available to us. Zeller, Crowder, and Bradley are 99.98% gone.


What a huge turnover. It'll be about 9 or 10 new players, plus a few extra on 2-ways.

It's the cost of wanting to raise your ceiling as a team. You have an opportunity to add two all-stars without clearing the cupboard of future assets, you do it.

I know continuity is important to the coaching staff, but talent is talent. Acquire the stars then trust your established system/culture to make it work.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1813 » by 165bows » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:36 pm

Gant wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
Gant wrote:
So the only returning players would be Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Al Horford. Maybe Rozier under certain circumstances, and theoretically Green is possible too.

All our UFAs (Green, Young, Amir, Jerebko) can theoretically return if they accept the minimum or whatever exceptions are available to us. Zeller, Crowder, and Bradley are 99.98% gone.


What a huge turnover. It'll be about 9 or 10 new players, plus a few extra on 2-ways.

Welcome Brandon Bass, Tyler Zeller, Jordan Crawford and Gerald Green to the 2017-2018 Boston Celtics! Lol.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1814 » by KGboss » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:37 pm

Possible MLE or Vet Min options if all goes down:

Vince Carter
Zach Randolph
Omri Casspi
Thabo Sefolosha
Taj Gibson
Patrick Patterson
Jonathon Simmons
P.J. Tucker
Tony Allen ---- YES PLEASE
Jonas Jerebko ---- He may come back for cheap
Michael Beasley
Gerald Green
Willie Reed
Mike Muscala
Andrew Bogut
Jerami Grant ---- outside shot but probably not
Javale McGee
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1815 » by Gant » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:37 pm

Well this explains why Brad Wanamaker might have a spot on the Celtics. A few guards could be gone, and there would be minimum roster spots as far as the eye can see.

New Orleans is his back up plan.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1816 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:39 pm

CavemanDoctor wrote:If what Adam referenced ends up yielding PG, then how amazing does the trade with Philly look?

Also, "thin bench" is the most overrated thing in basketball. It's trivially easy to fill out a solid bench.


Yea, I think we can use our young guys and some vets to get the bench better. Keep in mind if we get IT, Hayward, George and still have Horford- a 1 or more will always be on the court with the 2nd unit.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1817 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:39 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
If he joins a team that might end up being the next super team there's zero chance he leaves for LA. None.

Except for the fact that he's already flat out said he'd like to play for the Lakers. He's been tied to them for about a year now. And they have time to make moves to bring in other stars along with him.

Why are people acting like he didn't say he'd prefer the Lakers? I'm just taking the guy at his word. I've never had any reason to believe Paul George is a liar.


People are reading waaayy too much into this narrative the media has pushed. His agent said they plan to go to LA. George said he prefers LA. People close to him have said Boston is a good long term fit for him. He wants to play with Hayward.

He simply said he prefers LA. I prefer to have my own therapy practice in NH, but it may not be the case and I'll still be happy and successful opening one here. It's just an expressed preference, one of which the perception of has been skewed by the media, rationalization, paranoia, and bias.

You take this chance. Him leaving for LA is not set in stone. Him staying doesn't make him a liar either. WAY too many semantics going on with this LA thing. It's such a story. A preference, sure, but that's all it is.


The only thing for certain is that he's leaving IND
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1818 » by CavemanDoctor » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:40 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:
Gant wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:All our UFAs (Green, Young, Amir, Jerebko) can theoretically return if they accept the minimum or whatever exceptions are available to us. Zeller, Crowder, and Bradley are 99.98% gone.


What a huge turnover. It'll be about 9 or 10 new players, plus a few extra on 2-ways.

It's the cost of wanting to raise your ceiling as a team. You have an opportunity to add two all-stars without clearing the cupboard of future assets, you do it.

I know continuity is important to the coaching staff, but talent is talent. Acquire the stars then trust your established system/culture to make it work.



^^ Agreed. I've been touting the "don't even bother trying to compete with GS" line but if you can get George and Hayward -- two young stars -- without unloading your top 3 assets (BK18, Tatum, Brown), you 100% do it without a moment's hesitation. It's the exceedingly rare win-now-and-later move.
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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1819 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:41 pm

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Re: The Pursuit of Paul George 

Post#1820 » by DarkAzcura » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:42 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Shades of 2007 boys!! The Raptors board tends to get more ignorant when they get jealous.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1584689


If it happens, at least I won't have to hear Raptor fans talk about how their depth will beat us like in 2007. We will actually have a lot of depth after these moves unlike 2007.

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