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2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1801 » by Homerclease » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:03 pm

Parliament10 wrote:What's Danny doing?
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Post#1802 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:05 pm

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Post#1803 » by Swish1906 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:37 pm

Mavs fan lurking, just went back the past few pages to see if there are any Celtics/Poku rumours.

Looks like he isnt really on the Celtics draft board?!
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1804 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:54 pm

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Shak_Celts wrote:I haven’t read every comment but i don’t think people are taking the COVID break into account enough for this draft. I think a lot more of these guys are going to be ready to contribute earlier because they had nothing to do for a long time except workout and hone their game. More guys are going to get chances to prove themselves because of it and they will be more ready than they would if it was normal years. I just feel like because they had this time it won’t take until year 2+ for them to be ready for the NBA. Like they will be more ready physically and that alone will help guys get chances they wouldn’t have just a season ago.

I am crap at explaining my thoughts but i just have a feeling this draft is going to be a good one partially because of that long break. It’s going to be similar to jumps you see from players from season 1 to 2, where guys could finally train and not worry about school and other distractions, because of this break it’s going to happen earlier IMO.


I agree— I think were going to see two types of players from this draft. The ones who love basketball and worked their asses off the past 9 months will be apparent. As will the guys who didnt work as hard as they possibly could.

I think there will be much more of the first category and that there will be many good players from this draft. I also think there will be some busts as well — seeing Anthony Edwards struggle with his wind during his ESPN workout a few weeks back was troubling, especially when Maxey killed it and looked like a machine.


Yep. The guys who didn't work will be moved out of the way faster because more guys are going to be ready to play. We should find a nice 2way off the recycling bin this season if not draft picks.
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Post#1805 » by Bluewhale » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:06 pm

RJ reminds me a lot as Jordan Clarkson
RJ 6’5 190
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Both could be PG but not excellent in playmaking, defense and shooting
Both have excellent slashing ability.

Not a bad pick at 14 in a weak draft
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Post#1806 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:28 pm

Anybody else not buy this 'weak draft' idea about this year? It lacks super high end talent at the top, but if you don't have a top 5 pick, the depth of guys that could be good and productive players seems better than usual to me.
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Post#1807 » by Kalela » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:38 pm

Homerclease wrote:Terry is a smurf, we already have one of those in Tremont Waters. If we take a PG at least take one with size. Trade up for Haliburton or take a wing/big


Terry is actually smaller than the already tiny Tre Young.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1808 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:42 pm

Swish1906 wrote:Mavs fan lurking, just went back the past few pages to see if there are any Celtics/Poku rumours.

Looks like he isnt really on the Celtics draft board?!


Hard to tell. Celtics used to have tells with workouts and interviews, but they did neither with Langford last year and may be following suit this year. Impossible to know for sure.
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Post#1809 » by playa-hater » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:34 pm

NuckyPowell wrote:Anybody else not buy this 'weak draft' idea about this year? It lacks super high end talent at the top, but if you don't have a top 5 pick, the depth of guys that could be good and productive players seems better than usual to me.


this is my belief as well.

But even in so called weak drafts, there are good players.
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Post#1810 » by Spin Move » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:38 pm

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NuckyPowell wrote:Anybody else not buy this 'weak draft' idea about this year? It lacks super high end talent at the top, but if you don't have a top 5 pick, the depth of guys that could be good and productive players seems better than usual to me.


this is my belief as well.

But even in so called weak drafts, there are good players.


In comparison to most years I agree, there is always talent to be had, however next year's potential double draft is a really special one, I would MUCH rather have #14 next year. Probably add 7 spots of value between next year and this year, IE 14 this year will be equivalent to 21 next year. Or taken the other way you can probably get the same level of palyer next year at 21 that you could this year at 14. If you are in the top 5 next year you are getting a potential all star.
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Post#1812 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:36 pm

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NuckyPowell wrote:Anybody else not buy this 'weak draft' idea about this year? It lacks super high end talent at the top, but if you don't have a top 5 pick, the depth of guys that could be good and productive players seems better than usual to me.


this is my belief as well.

But even in so called weak drafts, there are good players.


Seems like it could produce a handful of rotational guys because of shooters and defensive big men, but yeah, the top of the draft looks to lack potential.
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Post#1813 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:57 pm

Bluewhale wrote:RJ reminds me a lot as Jordan Clarkson
RJ 6’5 190
JC 6’4 192
Both could be PG but not excellent in playmaking, defense and shooting
Both have excellent slashing ability.

Not a bad pick at 14 in a weak draft


they're absolutely nothing alike. And it's not a weak draft
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Post#1814 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:00 pm

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NuckyPowell wrote:Anybody else not buy this 'weak draft' idea about this year? It lacks super high end talent at the top, but if you don't have a top 5 pick, the depth of guys that could be good and productive players seems better than usual to me.


this is my belief as well.

But even in so called weak drafts, there are good players.


In comparison to most years I agree, there is always talent to be had, however next year's potential double draft is a really special one, I would MUCH rather have #14 next year. Probably add 7 spots of value between next year and this year, IE 14 this year will be equivalent to 21 next year. Or taken the other way you can probably get the same level of palyer next year at 21 that you could this year at 14. If you are in the top 5 next year you are getting a potential all star.


agreed. I hope Danny manages to swing a trade that lands us a 2nd 2021 1st rounder. In fact, I expect it. I think he'll take a draft and stash, take a player, and trade a pick for a future 1st.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN) 

Post#1815 » by Bleeding Green » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:04 pm

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Spin Move wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
this is my belief as well.

But even in so called weak drafts, there are good players.


In comparison to most years I agree, there is always talent to be had, however next year's potential double draft is a really special one, I would MUCH rather have #14 next year. Probably add 7 spots of value between next year and this year, IE 14 this year will be equivalent to 21 next year. Or taken the other way you can probably get the same level of palyer next year at 21 that you could this year at 14. If you are in the top 5 next year you are getting a potential all star.


agreed. I hope Danny manages to swing a trade that lands us a 2nd 2021 1st rounder. In fact, I expect it. I think he'll take a draft and stash, take a player, and trade a pick for a future 1st.

Yeah that's the play if there isn't some massive blockbuster trade. Should be easy to accomplish, there is always someone looking to trade a future pick to get something now. The Hawks, Pelicans, Thunder all have multiple future picks coming their way, Ainge needs to get one of them. OKC in particular has so many god damn picks that they should be easy to take advantage of sometime in the next 3 years.

There are going to be a lot of good players available at 26/30 in this draft, and someone is going to want to get into that range, so sell it for a future pick if you can. I really want to see Hampton at 14, Maledon at 26 (and stash) and then trade 30 for a future pick. Jaden McDaniels is gonna be there at 30 and someone is gonna think they can turn him into Durant, and honestly if you're OKC and you have a billion picks, why not trade one of them for a chance at a 1% lottery ticket like McDaniels?
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Post#1816 » by captain green » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:47 pm

If the trade up fail which I can't see it happening at this point it's definitely a trade for a next year pick and 26 is the number to get that done not the 30. But dont be surprised if that 30 turns into a 2 late seconds.
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Post#1817 » by Celts17Pride » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:51 pm

captain green wrote:If the trade up fail which I can't see it happening at this point it's definitely a trade for a next year pick and 26 is the number to get that done not the 30. But dont be surprised if that 30 turns into a 2 late seconds.

14, 26 and next year’s 1st?
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Post#1818 » by snowman » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:53 am

If Danny picks 1, stashes 1 and trades out of 1 for a couple seconds, then that will tell me Danny has no business drafting for a professional team any longer. The only thing that would be worse is trading all three picks for pick 6 then giving that pick away for a 31 year old PG. If one of these 2 things happen, I will be on the fire Danny band wagon, because he will be doing more harm to the team than good.
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3 frp's = no Wannamaker, Semi, Green at 0 cost to open up. Porier and Edwards can be moved along with Kanter for vets to help the bench. There is no roster church, just an excuse for no balls. Danny already said that they expected to be a lux tax team, so that is not a problem. If Danny is afraid to make a decision on picks or screws this up by picking more 6'6 PF's, 6'0 and under PG's, or shooting guards that can't shoot, I believe it will be time for Danny to move on.
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Post#1819 » by themoneyteam2 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:04 am

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captain green wrote:If the trade up fail which I can't see it happening at this point it's definitely a trade for a next year pick and 26 is the number to get that done not the 30. But dont be surprised if that 30 turns into a 2 late seconds.

14, 26 and next year’s 1st?


I read that as him saying if the trade up fails, which he can't see happening at this point, they will trade 26 for a 1st round pick next year, similar to how they did that last year for the Bucks pick this year.
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Post#1820 » by captain green » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:14 am

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captain green wrote:If the trade up fail which I can't see it happening at this point it's definitely a trade for a next year pick and 26 is the number to get that done not the 30. But dont be surprised if that 30 turns into a 2 late seconds.

14, 26 and next year’s 1st?


I read that as him saying if the trade up fails, which he can't see happening at this point, they will trade 26 for a 1st round pick next year, similar to how they did that last year for the Bucks pick this year.

Yeppers if all options are off the table the 26 might be similar trade as last year
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