Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Bol Bol is injured and out for 8-12 weeks.

[Bill Lumbergh]

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[zoyathedestroya]

POBO Brad couldn't expand the trade to include Horford for Jokic?? Fire Steven!

[Asian Celtic]

Dozier, passes decently but isn't really a good shooter. IDK what brad is doing with mr Bol2x(Pubic hair in local language).

[zimpy27]

So did Celtics just want to save money here?

Looks like the goal for the deadline will be to get out of the tax.

[Bill Lumbergh]

They're both expiring. Dozier is out for the year with a torn ACL. Might as well just cut him. I suppose it is good not to start paying the tax for a non-contending team. No impact on the court at all.

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, I expect Dozier will be waved for the roster spot.

[return2glory]

Bol Bol's injuries have been an issue for a while. Maybe the Celtics will take a chance on him when he comes back from his latest injury. He has the talent to be really good. But the Nuggets gave up on him for a reason. A few years ago, he would have been a 1st round pick, maybe top 10 or top 15 if not for his injuries again.

[BostonCouchGM]

For starters, I don't think shooting is Boston's main problem. In fact, over the last 10 games or so, the Celtics as a team have the highest efg percentage in the league.

The problem is turnovers. The Celtics are 23rd in the league in turnovers and they are also in the bottom five in assists. They are not a good passing team and they don't protect the ball. And the two feed off each other: the inability and/or unwillingness to pass leads to more turnovers.

These are not problems easily fixed in trades, since the biggest culprits are the two untouchables.

this is because our only true PG is Pritchard and when he's in he's mostly off ball. Tatum has turnovers because he's constantly doubled. Jaylen has turnovers because his handle and BBIQ are terrible. Smart has turnovers because he's a knucklehead. Schroder is a SG in a PG's body that excels at driving to the basket and kicking but cannot run an offense outside of that.

Pritchard should be initiating the offense, running PnR with Williams. Jaylen and Tatum can then move without the ball, set screens, free themselves or one another up to force a mismatch. I know, this triggers some but it's really what our offense is missing. Guys need to be in constant motion and the less ISO the better. Unfortunately our two stars, backed by our GM and HC, either refuse or are incapable which doesn't bode well for our future. People keep asking for a PG but we wouldn't even use them correctly anyway, on top of the fact that if we did use a PG the right way, Pritchard is ideal and already on the team. It's not just us though. The whole league is in love with the high screen at the top of the key because it's an illegal moving screen that forces a switch which these ISO guys can take advantage of. Unfortunately, it's boring and ineffective in our case.

[Bohemian]

Disappointing.

[TheMartian]

Pritchard should be initiating the offense, running PnR with Williams. Jaylen and Tatum can then move without the ball, set screens, free themselves or one another up to force a mismatch. I know, this triggers some but it's really what our offense is missing. Guys need to be in constant motion and the less ISO the better. Unfortunately our two stars, backed by our GM and HC, either refuse or are incapable which doesn't bode well for our future. People keep asking for a PG but we wouldn't even use them correctly anyway, on top of the fact that if we did use a PG the right way, Pritchard is ideal and already on the team. It's not just us though. The whole league is in love with the high screen at the top of the key because it's an illegal moving screen that forces a switch which these ISO guys can take advantage of. Unfortunately, it's boring and ineffective in our case.

I have to agree with this, especially the bolded part.

[Andrew McCeltic]

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Is this accurate? I have us cutting 3 million and still over the tax…

If he’s right, it lets us keep DS or trade him without needing to take back less salary

[Andrew McCeltic]

For starters, I don't think shooting is Boston's main problem. In fact, over the last 10 games or so, the Celtics as a team have the highest efg percentage in the league.

The problem is turnovers. The Celtics are 23rd in the league in turnovers and they are also in the bottom five in assists. They are not a good passing team and they don't protect the ball. And the two feed off each other: the inability and/or unwillingness to pass leads to more turnovers.

These are not problems easily fixed in trades, since the biggest culprits are the two untouchables.

Bad shooting also means the Jays are at least unconsciously less likely to pass, there’s less benefit in moving the ball to get someone an open shot. And bad shooting lets defenses guard differently and be more aggressive ballhawking..

[sam_I_am]

Pritchard should be initiating the offense, running PnR with Williams. Jaylen and Tatum can then move without the ball, set screens, free themselves or one another up to force a mismatch. I know, this triggers some but it's really what our offense is missing. Guys need to be in constant motion and the less ISO the better. Unfortunately our two stars, backed by our GM and HC, either refuse or are incapable which doesn't bode well for our future. People keep asking for a PG but we wouldn't even use them correctly anyway, on top of the fact that if we did use a PG the right way, Pritchard is ideal and already on the team. It's not just us though. The whole league is in love with the high screen at the top of the key because it's an illegal moving screen that forces a switch which these ISO guys can take advantage of. Unfortunately, it's boring and ineffective in our case.

I have to agree with this, especially the bolded part.

I strongly disagree. When was the last time a part time bench player left here after playing as badly as Pritchard has, only to emerge elsewhere?

I want to like PP because he has great range and 3 pt shooting but he has been unplayable because he gives up twice what he gives you. He has been really bad since breaking his nose.

[chrisab123]

No one is happier about this trade than Wyc. Ho hum another year of wasting the Jays but hey save a couple bucks so we're good. Yay fiscal responsibility! On the other hand they'll have a lot of time to be cheap once Tatum and Brown go on to play with Bigger Markets. Both Dozier and Bol Bol are probably getting waived anyways.

[Larry_Russell]

So...

According to Eric Pincus, Charlotte really wants a Center bad, and have made Hayward available to make that happen. Turner was the ideal choice but the injury has slowed that. Also Dallas reportedly has the best offer for Turner with Brunson or DFS and Powell.


Is brad angling to get his "guy" back in boston?

Horford + Romeo for Hayward?

Ball
Rozier
Oubre
Bridges
Horford

That is an improvement for Charlotte

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
TImelord

That is an improvement for us

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[TheOGJabroni]

People are so crazy negative on here sometimes. This team isn't winning anything this year barring a really unexpected move for another star WITH the Jay's. That's not likely to happen midseason. So instead, it is wise to get under the tax to give us more flexibility when it does come time to compete.

We just traded a player that wasn't seeing the light of day for two other players that can't play right now & saved money; what is there to really complain about?

[Larry_Russell]

Another name that could be a really got get for alot less is Avdija