Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[Tyakack]

With so many different variety of stars available or possibly available, is it possible for the celtics not be interested in a single one of them? You'd think we've been out here winning titles or something and not failing every year for the same reasons.

[GoGreen]

Wow. Clippers blowing it up?

[playa-hater]

Well I wanted rumors I got rumors....

Still have no idea what the hell Boston's looking at..

[zoyathedestroya]

Opening Night Roster:

Smart | White | Brown | Tatum | Horford
Pritchard | Brogdon | Hauser | Gallinari | Timelord
Davison | Champagnie | Griffin | Muscala | Kornet

[Triple7]

More realistic deals:

BOS in: DFS, Mills
BOS out: Brogdon

BKN in: #17 Beasley
BKN out: DFS, Mills

LAL in: Brogdon
LAL out: #17, Beasley

DFS gives you another guy who can play defense in the frontcourt. Mills backfills our PG as a sniper.

Brooklyn sell high on DFS and get #17, likely with the hope of moving up using one or both of their picks in the 20s. The Lakers upgrade from Beasley using #17.

Follow up:

BOS: Boucher

TOR: Pritchard, Gallo

C's follow up to get another big as depth behind Rob/Horford. Boucher is still a small-ball 5, but he can play next to Rob and he can fill the C position in a pinch.

Toronto has a gaping hole at PG and a plethora of PF's so they take a chance on PP and give him the kind of minutes he's looking for while also taking a flyer on Gallo (likely to be flipped at deadline if he has anything left in the tank that can net them a 2nd).

Smart/ Mills/ Davison
Brown/ White
Tatum/ Hauser
DFS/ Grant/ Boucher
Rob/ Horford/ Muscala

Stick at #35 and take best wing or big available. Buy back into the 2nd round for a euro stash ideally or just the 15th man on the bench (high upside guys like Vukcevic/Gueye).

We all know playing smart, brown and Rob all the same time won’t work. That’s an awful shooting starting lineup. Will not work with the 3 ball Joe is preaching. Still no post up scoring, no mid range. Pass!

[RickyDizzle]

Think I'm in on Ayton tbh. If this team wants it and isn't going to be trading any of the "core" then they should go big imo. Rob and Malcolm? Gallo, PP and Malcolm (if Phoenix wolf even do that)?

Me too, if Brogdon is part of it the cost isn't even that different. Ayton with a change of scenery is more likely to increase his stock over time than Brogdon off of 6th man of the year. You could also l let Grant Williams walk or sign and trade for a cheaper veteran if you still have horford, timelord, with ayton.

If we get Ayton, then either horford or rob is likely headed to phoenix.

Not so sure. Phoenix doesn't have a PG and just generally wants bodies to fill out a rotation. Brogdon, Gallo, Pritchard, Muscala and 35 would give them half a team to put around booker, Durant, and beal... not a great team, but nba players.

[RickyDizzle]

Pritchard and #35 to Portland for #23.

This is the type of realistic trade I'd be all over. Draft a big with upside or a wing that's ready to play and get some good roster balance. That said though, if we trade brogdon or even smart as part of a bigger trade, think Pritchard would be solid in a consistent bench scorer role.

[RickyDizzle]

Brogdon & Hauser to the Knicks.
Fournier & Toppin to Boston.

Or some such iteration of Brogdon & for Fournier & Toppin.
A variation of an earlier B Robb trade.

Is Fournier still playable and just a casualty of Thibs? Or is he an unplayable guy that makes 19 million? I guess he'd be a human trade exception at least. I'd probably rather get Rose and Toppin for Brogdon. Seems like we should get a pick in either trade. The Knicks don't even have a pick this year...

How about Fournier, toppin, their 2024 lottery protected first, for brogdon, Hauser, and 35.

Fournier could come in handy at the deadline, possibly to attach a 1st and a prospect to and trade for a John Collins type. 19 mil expiring, a 1st, Pritchard for a 24ish million dollar unwanted player later.

[cl2117]

We all know playing smart, brown and Rob all the same time won’t work. That’s an awful shooting starting lineup. Will not work with the 3 ball Joe is preaching. Still no post up scoring, no mid range. Pass!

White probably runs with Rob and Smart with Horford. You can flex it as needed. DFS/Mills are good 3 point shooters, Boucher can even hit the occasional one, so they fit into Joe's schemes. They also all provide mid-range scoring, but true still no post-scoring.

Feel free to suggest something that works better.

[cl2117]

Pritchard and #35 to Portland for #23.

This is the type of realistic trade I'd be all over. Draft a big with upside or a wing that's ready to play and get some good roster balance. That said though, if we trade brogdon or even smart as part of a bigger trade, think Pritchard would be solid in a consistent bench scorer role.

Seems especially feasible if the Blazers do something with the Clippers for George. Could be Pritchard/#35 for #23 or even just Pritchard for #30 being kicked in from LAC since I think Simons/#3 is a bit rich for PG.

[Marvel]

Wow. Clippers blowing it up?

At least they know when something clearly isn't working.

[RickyDizzle]

With so many different variety of stars available or possibly available, is it possible for the celtics not be interested in a single one of them? You'd think we've been out here winning titles or something and not failing every year for the same reasons.

Trade Brown for Lamelo, Ja Morant, or Zion, then make a second trade to get a wing back (Lavine, George, etc.)

Kidding...

... sort of.

[Darthlukey]

With so many different variety of stars available or possibly available, is it possible for the celtics not be interested in a single one of them? You'd think we've been out here winning titles or something and not failing every year for the same reasons.

Trade Brown for Lamelo, Ja Morant, or Zion, then make a second trade to get a wing back (Lavine, George, etc.)

Kidding...

... sort of.

For lamello, that's probably more of a do it not do it

[zoyathedestroya]

BOS gets Wendell Carter, Jr.
ORL gets Ayton
PHO gets Muscala, Brogdon, Suggs

It's a win for everybody imo. Suns get the coolest dude in the deal in Muscle Mike.

[Triple7]

With so many different variety of stars available or possibly available, is it possible for the celtics not be interested in a single one of them? You'd think we've been out here winning titles or something and not failing every year for the same reasons.

Trade Brown for Lamelo, Ja Morant, or Zion, then make a second trade to get a wing back (Lavine, George, etc.)

Kidding...

... sort of.

Zach Lavine is perfect to pair with JT. Dude can flat out shoot, has a deadly mid range, can dribble and get to the rack, and has insane athleticism. Plus he’s got no ego and is humble. Straight up for JB.
Now if we can somehow get Myles Turner for any of Rob, smart or brog.
White
Lavine
Tatum
Grant/gallo/horf
Turner
That’s a really good, big, balanced roster. No liability on offense, and we have a legit rim protector. Tons of flexibility. Two supermax guys won’t work in the long run.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Brad didn't trade for him so he can sign him for the minimum.

[cl2117]

With so many different variety of stars available or possibly available, is it possible for the celtics not be interested in a single one of them? You'd think we've been out here winning titles or something and not failing every year for the same reasons.

Trade Brown for Lamelo, Ja Morant, or Zion, then make a second trade to get a wing back (Lavine, George, etc.)

Kidding...

... sort of.

Zach Lavine is perfect to pair with JT. Dude can flat out shoot, has a deadly mid range, can dribble and get to the rack, and has insane athleticism. Plus he’s got no ego and is humble. Straight up for JB.
Now if we can somehow get Myles Turner for any of Rob, smart or brog.
White
Lavine
Tatum
Grant/gallo/horf
Turner
That’s a really good, big, balanced roster. No liability on offense, and we have a legit rim protector. Tons of flexibility. Two supermax guys won’t work in the long run.

Lavine plays zero defense though. Like less than zero. And he doesn't facilitate for anyone else. Too much of a monolith.

Turner would be an amazing get but it seems like Pacers are intent on finding a PF to pair with him rather than move him after signing him to that extension and it working out thus far.

[Triple7]

Trade Brown for Lamelo, Ja Morant, or Zion, then make a second trade to get a wing back (Lavine, George, etc.)

Kidding...

... sort of.

Zach Lavine is perfect to pair with JT. Dude can flat out shoot, has a deadly mid range, can dribble and get to the rack, and has insane athleticism. Plus he’s got no ego and is humble. Straight up for JB.
Now if we can somehow get Myles Turner for any of Rob, smart or brog.
White
Lavine
Tatum
Grant/gallo/horf
Turner
That’s a really good, big, balanced roster. No liability on offense, and we have a legit rim protector. Tons of flexibility. Two supermax guys won’t work in the long run.

Lavine plays zero defense though. Like less than zero. And he doesn't facilitate for anyone else. Too much of a monolith.

Turner would be an amazing get but it seems like Pacers are intent on finding a PF to pair with him rather than move him after signing him to that extension and it working out thus far.

I wouldn’t say zero defense lol. Still a much better fit with JT. Can dribble and shoot. Man, i’m actually at a level of disgust with Jaylen’s awful handles and tunnel vision, as well as low bbiq. and we are about to make him the highest paid player in the league. Untradeable contract. we are stuck with him for 6 loong years. Think about that.

[Fencer reregistered]

If Bam is traded to Portland, who trades for Jimmy?

Or do they keep him to mentor Scoot?

[Fencer reregistered]

Oooh -- I have the name for the next thread!!

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