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Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1801 » by Fierce1 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:22 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Caruso will not be playing in the last 5 minutes because it will be White and Jrue.

Unless you guys want a lineup of Tatum at Center, Brown at PF, White, Jrue, and Caruso to finish games?


Maybe not much, but Caruso will play a bigger bulk of minutes. I see closer to 25 minutes. Don't think PP gets anywhere near that in the playoffs.

If you're worried about PP being hunted, just don't play PP and use a 7-man rotation.

Joe prefers using 2-big lineups anyway.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1802 » by 165bows » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:54 pm

Hal14 wrote:Woah. Kispert just dropped 26 tonight off the bench vs Miami.

And it's not like it was a wild 140-133 in overtime type of game either. The wizards only scored 102 points..

His 6 threes and 4 FGs from 2..6/14 from 3 but 1 of the misses was a desperation heave at the end of the game in the closing seconds when the wizards were down by 8.

He also had 4 rebs, 2 assists, 0 turnovers.


2:42 damn, look at the range on this 3
8:02 shows some good strength and athleticism as he takes it strong to the basket and throws down the dunk
8:10 has the ball top of key beyond the 3 pt line. Takes his man off the dribble, goes to the hole, hits a floater in the lane over 2 defenders
8:18 gets the ball on the break at the wing. Doesn't settle for the 3. Takes it strong to the bucket, makes the layup, and-1
8:28 catches it on the run, on the wing - takes it strong to the basket, hits the floaters in the lane, shows soft touch. Dude is on fire

His defense looks passable in this vid, too. Like 3 times where MIA ran PnR or iso at him. Only scored on 1 of them and that play (Kispert a little late to close out on a shooter) was perhaps Poole's fault as the 2 of them seemed to be mixed up about whether they were switching the screen. There was also a play where Butler tried to score on Kispert but was unsuccessful, losing the ball out of bounds. If he can hold up ok defending Jimmy, that's certainly a plus.

You know what to do, Brad. Just give Washington some of those 2nd rounders we have stocked up..

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Send picks (and Svi?) for Kispert! He just had the best game of his career and he's only 24 - still getting better..has experience playing with KP that will help make the transition to Boston smoother.

Drummond and Kispert are probably two of the bigger difference makers they could land. Queta shows a bit of what Drummond could do, having a big rebounder and finisher inside is just a different look than the rest of the team. Kispert obviously has a lot of overlap with Hauser but has some value. Both guys prob would want more playing time than they would get here.
Edit- maybe add Fontecchio to that list. Not sure how similar the Jazz systems are to what Boston runs but might be a quicker adaptation if it’s similar.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1803 » by 165bows » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:01 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:Just because we have the best record in the NBA doesn't mean there isn't clear opportunity to upgrade. Our starting 5 is obviously terrific. Horford is probably the best backup big man in the NBA. That's all rock solid.

Pritchard was played off the court at times last time he was in the playoff rotation. And yeah, maybe a more consistent role will help make him better on offense/shooting. But he was played off the court because he was too small to defend ISOs. He hasn't grown since then. You can't pencil Pritchard in for all rounds. There will be matchups he's not useful for.

Kornet has given some fine regular season minutes but regular season vs. postseason basketball is an entirely different game for centers. Many guys who play well in the regular season get glued to the bench in the playoffs and Kornet is pretty obviously in that group.

Brissett is given good energy but another guy whose game doesn't profile well for a playoff rotation.

Hauser on paper is everything you could want in a 7th/8th man. Shooter and passable defender. But still unproven.

We have a clear and definite opening for someone in the 7th/8th/9th spot of the playoff rotation. Not saying we could never get by with what we have, but it's a very clear area we could improve. And with a TPE, some minimum salary fodder to trade and picks we should definitely be turning over every stone. Not saying we get a stud but I find it hard to believe there isn't a reasonable deal out there that nets us something useful, even if not game-changing.

Very well reasoned as usual - only thing I’d add is it’s worth watching how Horford is doing. I do not think he is a trade candidate but he seems like he can run really hot and cold at times and more help there might be valuable.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1804 » by Fierce1 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:07 pm

Just get Drummond and we're set.

Celtics can load management Al and KP all they want if the Cs have Drummond.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1805 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:38 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1806 » by celticgreenie » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:41 pm

Add Caruso and Drummond and then a big wing from a buyout market and Celts should be able to win a championship in spite of Joe. Originally I was thinking a guy like Miles Bridges would be okay with the strong Celtics locker room culture but I don't see Brad Stevens gambling like that. Adding Caruso would be similar to Stevens' past history of adding high character players like White and Holiday.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1807 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:22 pm

I think we would all trade Pritchard + filler + picks for Caruso.

Question is, is it realistic?

a) Would chicago actually agree to it? They're not gonna want our bench scraps, they would obviously much rather have Caruso instead of Pritchard. And our picks would be late 1st rounders which are less valuable than the picks other teams would offer. PLus, the Bulls are right in the playoff hunt so might want to keep Caruso

b) It would have to be Pritchard + 3 minimum contract guys to match salaries. So a 4 for 1 trade. Those pretty much never happen in the middle of the season..

I'd do it but seems like more of a pipe dream..
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1808 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:24 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1809 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:28 pm

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Interesting.

Seems like Danny isn't tanking anymore. Seems like he's trying to win now.

-Traded for John Collins
-Made an aggressive offer for Jrue Holiday. Reports said the Jazz were the 2nd closest team (after Boston of course) to landing Jrue
-Now making offer for Mikal Bridges

Seems like they probably won't want to move Fontecchio (who's been starting for them for awhile now)..unless it's part of a package that gets them Mikal..
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1810 » by flintsky21 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:41 pm

Hal14 wrote:Celtics are:

-28th in FGA between 0-3 feet from the basket
-27th in FGA between 3-10 feet from the basket
-27th in FGA that are layups
-6th in FGA that are dunks
-19th in FTr
-27th in drives per game (since December 1)
-1st (by a MILE) in 3Pr

Whoever we get, let's try to get someone who can score closer to the basket and isn't so reliant on the 3 ball (3's are good but let's not rely on them too much b/c those shots are more hit or miss, more fickle)

If Golden State did it, why can't we? 8-)
(Just don't tell Joe we don't happen to have the 2 best shooters of all time.)
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1811 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:23 pm

flintsky21 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Celtics are:

-28th in FGA between 0-3 feet from the basket
-27th in FGA between 3-10 feet from the basket
-27th in FGA that are layups
-6th in FGA that are dunks
-19th in FTr
-27th in drives per game (since December 1)
-1st (by a MILE) in 3Pr

Whoever we get, let's try to get someone who can score closer to the basket and isn't so reliant on the 3 ball (3's are good but let's not rely on them too much b/c those shots are more hit or miss, more fickle)

If Golden State did it, why can't we? 8-)
(Just don't tell Joe we don't happen to have the 2 best shooters of all time.)


Yeah, not a winning formula for the playoffs unless your stars are very good three point shooters, which Tatum and Brown aren't.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1812 » by BK_2020 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:32 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
flintsky21 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Celtics are:

-28th in FGA between 0-3 feet from the basket
-27th in FGA between 3-10 feet from the basket
-27th in FGA that are layups
-6th in FGA that are dunks
-19th in FTr
-27th in drives per game (since December 1)
-1st (by a MILE) in 3Pr

Whoever we get, let's try to get someone who can score closer to the basket and isn't so reliant on the 3 ball (3's are good but let's not rely on them too much b/c those shots are more hit or miss, more fickle)

If Golden State did it, why can't we? 8-)
(Just don't tell Joe we don't happen to have the 2 best shooters of all time.)


Yeah, not a winning formula for the playoffs unless your stars are very good three point shooters, which Tatum and Brown aren't.

You know what else Brown isn't good at? Driving to the hoop and getting fouled.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1813 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:53 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1814 » by 165bows » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:54 pm

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Interesting.

Seems like Danny isn't tanking anymore. Seems like he's trying to win now.

-Traded for John Collins
-Made an aggressive offer for Jrue Holiday. Reports said the Jazz were the 2nd closest team (after Boston of course) to landing Jrue
-Now making offer for Mikal Bridges

Seems like they probably won't want to move Fontecchio (who's been starting for them for awhile now)..unless it's part of a package that gets them Mikal..

Olynyk to a third team, Murray to Utah, plus some other stuff obviously.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1815 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Feb 3, 2024 10:17 pm

So, which contender will grab Marcus Smart?
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Post#1816 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Feb 3, 2024 10:26 pm

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Post#1817 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat Feb 3, 2024 10:50 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
flintsky21 wrote:If Golden State did it, why can't we? 8-)
(Just don't tell Joe we don't happen to have the 2 best shooters of all time.)


Yeah, not a winning formula for the playoffs unless your stars are very good three point shooters, which Tatum and Brown aren't.

You know what else Brown isn't good at? Driving to the hoop and getting fouled.


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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1818 » by leper-con » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:21 am

Kevin Love would be a great pick up, any chance Miami deals him to us?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1819 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:22 am

leper-con wrote:Kevin Love would be a great pick up, any chance Miami deals him to us?

Miami and Boston will not be dealing any time soon.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1820 » by playa-hater » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:32 am

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sounds like they should tank even more now.. although they do play better without Lavine.

Caruso, Come on down!!

*** What contender needs a Caruso that has picks and would be willing to trade for Caruso?

The Bucks don't have draft ammo.

Philly and NYK don't need him as much. Miami can't. Denver?? maybe. LAL for D Russell?? OKC?? Don't really see anyone else that wants or needs a PG that would give up multiple Draft picks.

Either way PP + fillers and draft picks from us is more than what I think Chicago would/could get.
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