Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

Celts17Pride · Post #1821 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:10 pm

CelticsLV wrote:The whole framework seems way too complicated. Too many parties, too many pieces. Writing it off already.

Ainge has never put together a multiple team trade before :roll:

Celts17Pride · Post #1822 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:11 pm

Homerclease wrote:So three team, Theis and Hayward to Indy, Turner and Holiday to Boston, Dipo and let’s call it pick 8 to the Pels.

Something like that

Post #1823 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:15 pm

GoGreen wrote:If Danny manages to lose both Kyrie and Hayward and get NOTHING back, that's going to be a big fat L on his resume. You know Gordon is working on some deals behind the scenes.

Both players were acquired for basically free. Sometimes just letting a player go is worth more than taking on contracts. See: Al Horford.

hugepatsfan · Post #1824 » by **hugepatsfan** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:17 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Damn that's almost as good as Walker/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Theis.

Jrue > Hayward, Turner > Theis. Stop being biased.

There is just no way. Hayward is better than Jrue and Theis is better than Turner. Myles Turner is talked about like he's Anthony Davis around here. I have no bias.

The Hayward/Jrue think I wont even flip put over. Theis being better than Tuner is pure delusion lol. There's a lot of room in between Anthony Davis and Theis lmfaoo

CelticsLV · Post #1825 » by **CelticsLV** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:18 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:The whole framework seems way too complicated. Too many parties, too many pieces. Writing it off already.

Ainge has never put together a multiple team trade before

Can you point me to one? Especially this complicated?

This would effectively be a trade involving 4 parties.

celticfan42487 · Post #1826 » by **celticfan42487** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:18 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:Kemba / Jrue / Brown / Tatum / Turner would be one hell of a starting 5. In theory Hayward/Smart/picks should be enough value going out to make that happen.

For this team, I think I'd rather have Smart and a lottery pick than either of Jrue and Turner.

We as fans need to look at this as a GM not with a punchdrunk head from making the Conference Finals where we avoided a MIL team.

We did just lose to the Heat who were the 5th seed and...

Jaylen Brown 23 years old
Jayson Tatum 22 years old

Guys... our guys are 2-3 years away from entering our prime. Everything we do should be in mind of making our run 2-3 years from now. Not now. Not today.

Unless again you're trading for an MVP guy like a Harden.

tfribs45 · Post #1827 » by **tfribs45** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:27 pm

easy with the Cobra talk. Maaaaaaaaacus is one of our leaders! We have a ton of assets and GH. No need to unload any of our core players, IMO

FlatearthZorro · Post #1828 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:28 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:Kemba / Jrue / Brown / Tatum / Turner would be one hell of a starting 5. In theory Hayward/Smart/picks should be enough value going out to make that happen.

For this team, I think I'd rather have Smart and a lottery pick than either of Jrue and Turner.

We as fans need to look at this as a GM not with a punchdrunk head from making the Conference Finals where we avoided a MIL team.

We did just lose to the Heat who were the 5th seed and...

Jaylen Brown 23 years old
Jayson Tatum 22 years old

Guys... our guys are 2-3 years away from entering our prime. Everything we do should be in mind of making our run 2-3 years from now. Not now. Not today.

Unless again you're trading for an MVP guy like a Harden.

I will definitely not spend what it takes to get Harden and let's be real, unless he adjusts his style of play, Harden ain't winning ****, regardless of how many points he can score.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1829 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:32 pm

CelticsLV wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:The whole framework seems way too complicated. Too many parties, too many pieces. Writing it off already.

Ainge has never put together a multiple team trade before

Can you point me to one? Especially this complicated?

This would effectively be a trade involving 4 parties.

I think the Courtney Lee deal to Memphis was a three-teamer if I remember correctly, also he was part of a 3-teamer that facilitated LeBron to Cleveland in 2014

Post #1830 » by **djFan71** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:34 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Here's what I think... The Celtics and their picks are getting used again by other orgs to raise bids from other teams, this time by the Pelicans who are likely not getting the juicy offers they want for Holiday. Same old, same old.

Right now, we don't even know if we can trade Hayward prior to the draft. He hasn't opted in yet, unless I missed something in the last 10,000 years we lost electricity.

Stay safe and save that phone battery!

fallguy · Post #1831 » by **fallguy** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Ainge has never put together a multiple team trade before

Can you point me to one? Especially this complicated?

This would effectively be a trade involving 4 parties.

I think the Courtney Lee deal to Memphis was a three-teamer if I remember correctly, also he was part of a 3-teamer that facilitated LeBron to Cleveland in 2014

The IT deal.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1832 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:45 pm

Read on Twitter

Ehhh I don't like giving 14

Post #1833 » by **djFan71** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:48 pm

I'm not huge on the idea of all the picks & Hayward for Jrue.

If Hayward is indeed going to leave regardless, a possibly expiring Jrue and a big TPE isn't horrible. Hayward, Poirier, Kanter for Jrue gets you $16M TPE. But, no way NOP does it without us throwing in some picks to ATL to get 6 to them.

Just not worth it, imo. It's basically doubling-down on the Kemba signing mindset. We're not a "replace Hayward with Jrue" move away from a title.

Post #1834 » by **Feed Your Head** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:48 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Ehhh I don't like giving 14

Hayward is gone regardless, so look at it as 14 for Turner.

Kemba/Smart/Jaylen/Tatum/Turner should be pretty damn good. Plus Turner is really close with them from team USA.

The Kemba contract kind of has this team in a weird situation. Just need to hope Tatum continues making the jump to MVP player, and little tweaks along the way that work out for them.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1835 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:49 pm

Kemba/Hayward/picks for Turner/Jrue/Lonzo.

Lonzo/Smart/Wanamaker
JRue/Langford
Jaylen/Semi
Tatum/GWill
Turner/Theis/Timelord

Pick up a bench scorer with the MLE.

watsonthedragon · Post #1836 » by **watsonthedragon** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:49 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

Post #1837 » by **Feed Your Head** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:51 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

I’m pretty neutral on Turner, but the appeal with him is the physical ability. I think he would make a decent jump here, but he’s so inconsistent.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1838 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:53 pm

canman1971 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
canman1971 wrote:Pretty sure Mr. Smith has come a long way in his career since then. I'd like to think a longtime poster like yourself you recognize that.

I'm glad his career is going well, but I didn't deserve the penalty.

Probably not. However we live in the present and we have all made choices I am sure that might not have been the best. But to rehash the past is counterproductive it all aspects of life.

It's more than fair to look back at stuff once the dust has settled to see what was up lol.

31to6 · Post #1839 » by **31to6** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:54 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

No. Greg Popovich and I agree with you!

Disinformation · Post #1840 » by **Disinformation** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:55 pm

The Comedian wrote:
watsonthedragon wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

I’m pretty neutral on Turner, but the appeal with him is the physical ability. I think he would make a decent jump here, but he’s so inconsistent.

Neutral is a good way to describe my feelings, too. Or maybe ambivalent.

I saw a video breakdown (maybe here?) of how much Turner improved defensively this past season. It was pretty compelling. If he can continue an upward trend defensively under Stevens (which isn't unreasonable), he could be a really impactful player for the C's.

Or he could just continue being the inconsistent tease he's been most of his career. Which would (IMO) make Hayward/14 an overpay.