"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[Bleeding Green]

I'd take Olynyk in a second. He could show the rest of the roster how to only take layups and threes. Thompson for Olynyk, make it happen.

Oh yeah easy. KO is better than Theis folks

Not better than Theis, but definitely has a skillset that this team is missing.

[djFan71]

Kemba and a 1 for John Wall— would you do it?

Nah, only cuz his contract is even MORE prohibitive to making other moves. And he may or may not add more on the floor over the next 2 years. So tough to tell with the knees on both sides. If both healthy, yeah, Wall's much better. But, I don't think you can count on either of them, so stay with the "cheaper" guy.

Wall is a little better, but his defense has been even worse than Kemba's this year

I honestly haven't watched any Rockets this year... I know, crazy.

[TommyForever]

I know most wont agree but Meyers Leonard would have been a nice piece to get. Dude had very underrated skills and need the right team.

He is a racist piece of ****.

Damn I didn’t know that. Is that personal?

[JHTruth]

I'd take Olynyk in a second. He could show the rest of the roster how to only take layups and threes. Thompson for Olynyk, make it happen.

Oh yeah easy. KO is better than Theis folks

Not better than Theis, but definitely has a skillset that this team is missing.

Brad has essentially tried to make Theis KO. Let's just get KO

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I think the lack of practice, covid, and short off-season are all contributing factors to the Celtics right now. Last season, they came out with something to prove. But this year, they look like they are sleep-walking through the season.

Every single team is in the same boat. There is zero excuse for the product the Celtics are putting on the floor especially when they continually lose to some of the worst teams in the league.

In the last six weeks, this team has lost to the Kings, Pistons, Wizards, Pelicans, and Cavs. They have a few good wins during the same time span but if you look in the dictionary under "playing down to your competition" I'm pretty sure there's a picture of the 20-21 Celtics..... don't quote me on that though.

The Celtics haven't had a good win since they played the bucks game one.

[JHTruth]

I know most wont agree but Meyers Leonard would have been a nice piece to get. Dude had very underrated skills and need the right team.

He is a racist piece of ****.

Damn I didn’t know that. Is that personal?

He had an incident where he used a derogatory word for Jew while gaming. It was dealt with quietly and it's over

[GoCeltics123]

Every single team is in the same boat. There is zero excuse for the product the Celtics are putting on the floor especially when they continually lose to some of the worst teams in the league.

In the last six weeks, this team has lost to the Kings, Pistons, Wizards, Pelicans, and Cavs. They have a few good wins during the same time span but if you look in the dictionary under "playing down to your competition" I'm pretty sure there's a picture of the 20-21 Celtics..... don't quote me on that though.

The Celtics haven't had a good win since they played the bucks game one.

Nah the Clippers one in LA was definitely a good one. We had no Smart/JB, they didn't have PG/Bev.

Also the Miami one too

[Bleeding Green]

Oh yeah easy. KO is better than Theis folks

Not better than Theis, but definitely has a skillset that this team is missing.

Brad has essentially tried to make Theis KO. Let's just get KO

Sounds good to me. They are the top two players in the NBA at shooting percentage inside the arc.

[MrClass]

I know most wont agree but Meyers Leonard would have been a nice piece to get. Dude had very underrated skills and need the right team.

He is a racist piece of ****.

Damn I didn’t know that. Is that personal?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31044935/miami-heat-meyers-leonard-fined-50000-suspended-week-using-anti-semitic-slur

[Wes-J]

Let's call Presti and swap Nesmith for Poku. Then as a sweetener bribe him into buying out Horfie and bring him back so dudes here will post Anna Horford tweets on her love for Boston.

[GoCeltics123]

Nah, only cuz his contract is even MORE prohibitive to making other moves. And he may or may not add more on the floor over the next 2 years. So tough to tell with the knees on both sides. If both healthy, yeah, Wall's much better. But, I don't think you can count on either of them, so stay with the "cheaper" guy.

Wall is a little better, but his defense has been even worse than Kemba's this year

I honestly haven't watched any Rockets this year... I know, crazy.

Worst part: if Danny blows this whole thing, that could be us in a few years. Tanking and losing stars.

Fun

[TommyForever]

He is a racist piece of ****.

Damn I didn’t know that. Is that personal?

He had an incident where he used a derogatory word for Jew while gaming. It was dealt with quietly and it's over

I just looked it up.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I think the lack of practice, covid, and short off-season are all contributing factors to the Celtics right now. Last season, they came out with something to prove. But this year, they look like they are sleep-walking through the season.

Every single team is in the same boat. There is zero excuse for the product the Celtics are putting on the floor especially when they continually lose to some of the worst teams in the league.

The excuse is that young teams are going to be hurt more than experienced teams in a year like this where you can't practice much at all.

https://en.hispanosnba.com/teams/comparison

Celtics have the 8th youngest roster, 9th youngest rotation. Denver is the only younger team that is obviously better, and they started out very poorly, have maybe the MVP on their roster.

I'm not buying the youth excuse. Walker and Brown have been to the ECF a couple of times including last year with a young team.

The Celtics have a talent issue not a youth issue.

[Wes-J]

Oh yeah easy. KO is better than Theis folks

Not better than Theis, but definitely has a skillset that this team is missing.

Brad has essentially tried to make Theis KO. Let's just get KO

Let's do neither. Center ain't the issue here.

[Andrew McCeltic]

We need Langford to come back looking like a top 5 high school player, Nesmith to shoot like he did in college, Grant to start scoring and rebounding bigger than his size, and good trades to fall into our lap. None of those things are likely.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

In the last six weeks, this team has lost to the Kings, Pistons, Wizards, Pelicans, and Cavs. They have a few good wins during the same time span but if you look in the dictionary under "playing down to your competition" I'm pretty sure there's a picture of the 20-21 Celtics..... don't quote me on that though.

The Celtics haven't had a good win since they played the bucks game one.

Nah the Clippers one in LA was definitely a good one. We had no Smart/JB, they didn't have PG/Bev.

Also the Miami one too

Miami isn't a good team. I don't think the clippers win was particularly good but I'll give it to you.

[Wes-J]

And **** Atlanta they can keep Collins and send us home in the play-in tournament.

[Bleeding Green]

Every single team is in the same boat. There is zero excuse for the product the Celtics are putting on the floor especially when they continually lose to some of the worst teams in the league.

The excuse is that young teams are going to be hurt more than experienced teams in a year like this where you can't practice much at all.

https://en.hispanosnba.com/teams/comparison

Celtics have the 8th youngest roster, 9th youngest rotation. Denver is the only younger team that is obviously better, and they started out very poorly, have maybe the MVP on their roster.

I'm not buying the youth excuse. Walker and Brown have been to the ECF a couple of times including last year with a young team.

The Celtics have a talent issue not a youth issue.

And those guys got there with older players around them. This year they are the leaders and both are incapable of making players around them better And the older guys have been actively detrimental to the team. Teague, Walker, Thompson have all been terrible. Last year they had Hayward, a much better Walker, Wanamaker. This is a young team and all the veteran players are some form of trash. Young players don't progress linearly. Grant took a big step back this year, Langford hasn't played, none of the others have stepped up at all, Tatum and Brown have regressed in terms of shot selection. Rob Williams has improved, but he plays 14 minutes most games and it takes Tristan being out for him to get real run.

[djFan71]

And **** Atlanta they can keep Collins and send us home in the play-in tournament.

Between you, me and SWC we've ****ed dang near every team in the league and Klutch in the last few days.

[Celts17Pride]

This isn't rocket science,

Ainge has two options in my opinion for these next 7 days.

1. Try to add a big piece with multiple years left on their contract or someone who is going to be a RFA that you know you will pay going forward. You know the names (Barnes, Vucevic, Grant, Barnes etc.)

2. If you can't do that then sell off what you can (Kemba, TT, Teague, Theis, Ojeleye, Green etc.) and play the young guys big minutes (Langford, Nesmith, G Williams, R Williams, Pritchard, Edwards etc.) Build their value, decide your keepers and get a Top 10 draft pick to boot.

This is not hard.