The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

[BostonCouchGM]

Do we want Cam Reddish? Very gettable, apparently, for the best 1st on the table. Due for an extension this summer, but.. if you're able to get him on Williams/JRich money, could be a steal.

Most likely he winds up a Kelly Oubre level player and gets Oubre money, but he's only 22 and there are people who think he has star upside..

Eh, idk. I like him but if this team ends up with a lottery pick i don't think I'd give that up unless the draft just isn't very good this year.

I don't think it's very good tbh. Deep with role players and some above average starters at the top but that's it. We need a 4 (so Tatum can play the 3) so not sure why people want yet another wing like Reddish.

[Asian Celtic]

I'd trade Brown for Hali in a heartbeat. But kings won't so nothing to see here, don't want another non shooting PG.

[Larry_Russell]

I'd trade Brown for Hali in a heartbeat. But kings won't so nothing to see here, don't want another non shooting PG.

I love Hali and was high on him pre draft, but he is not worth Brown.

[MSTRJMES]

J.Brown for Halliburton and Barnes works…maybe swap some firsts.

[Floody100]

Imagine being that stupid that thinking trading Brown for Halliburton + helps us move forward

[playa-hater]

Imagine being that stupid that thinking trading Brown for Halliburton + helps us move forward

Well he did say swap some 1st round picks Sacramento May end up having a top 5 pixel maybe

[cl2117]

I'll keep beating the Jerami Grant drum. Detroit ain't going anywhere any time soon and he's expiring next year, so would make sense to try and cash in before he's devalued.

Boston in: Grant, Boston Jr., Garza
Boston out: Romeo, Schroder, Juancho, Bruno, BOS 2022 first unprotected, BOS 2024 unprotected

Detroit in: Romeo, Ibaka, Winslow, 2 firsts, DET 2025 2nd
Detroit out: Grant, Garza

Clippers in: Schroder, Juancho, Bruno
Clippers out: Ibaka, Winslow, Boston Jr., DET 2025 2nd

Give IT a 10 day and see if he can stick for novelty purposes.

Roll out:

Smart/Pritchard/IT
Brown/Richardson/Boston Jr
Tatum/Nesmith
Grant/G. Williams/Parker
Timelord/Horford/Freedom

Defense would be at the top fo the league. Offensively we improve a bit as well.

[Curmudgeon]

There is no player that could realistically be added to Tatum and Brown that would make the Celtics anything other than a .500 team. One set of Celtics fans can propose exchanging their binkies for someone else's binkies and it won't do any good.

If you keep those two, you are looking at another few years of 4th quarters full of ISO ball and frustrating losses waiting and hoping for Tatum and Brown to learn how to play winning basketball.

[Larry_Russell]

I'll keep beating the Jerami Grant drum. Detroit ain't going anywhere any time soon and he's expiring next year, so would make sense to try and cash in before he's devalued.

Boston in: Grant, Boston Jr., Garza
Boston out: Romeo, Schroder, Juancho, Bruno, BOS 2022 first unprotected, BOS 2024 unprotected

Detroit in: Romeo, Ibaka, Winslow, 2 firsts, DET 2025 2nd
Detroit out: Grant, Garza

Clippers in: Schroder, Juancho, Bruno
Clippers out: Ibaka, Winslow, Boston Jr., DET 2025 2nd

Give IT a 10 day and see if he can stick for novelty purposes.

Roll out:

Smart/Pritchard/IT
Brown/Richardson/Boston Jr
Tatum/Nesmith
Grant/G. Williams/Parker
Timelord/Horford/Freedom

Defense would be at the top fo the league. Offensively we improve a bit as well.

I feel like that is unnecessarily large .

But boston in is a massive yes
Geant in I can really get behind.

[Larry_Russell]

I comment on size of a trade and then come up with this play on the same deal....


Horford and schroder to clippers.
They really help xlippers chances

Schroder
Kennard
Kawhi
George
Horford


Bledsoe, romeo, cash to cover bledsoes salary jext season.( only 4 mill guaranteed next season) 1st from boston to detroit.
Adds youth and continues the tank/youth.


Boston improves. Center is a bit weak but Ibaka wil toughen this team up . Also get below tax.

Smart/pritchard
Brown/richardon/boston
Grant/nesmith
Tatum/grantw/parker/juancho
Timelord/ibaka/freedon

[cl2117]

I'll keep beating the Jerami Grant drum. Detroit ain't going anywhere any time soon and he's expiring next year, so would make sense to try and cash in before he's devalued.

Boston in: Grant, Boston Jr., Garza
Boston out: Romeo, Schroder, Juancho, Bruno, BOS 2022 first unprotected, BOS 2024 unprotected

Detroit in: Romeo, Ibaka, Winslow, 2 firsts, DET 2025 2nd
Detroit out: Grant, Garza

Clippers in: Schroder, Juancho, Bruno
Clippers out: Ibaka, Winslow, Boston Jr., DET 2025 2nd

Give IT a 10 day and see if he can stick for novelty purposes.

Roll out:

Smart/Pritchard/IT
Brown/Richardson/Boston Jr
Tatum/Nesmith
Grant/G. Williams/Parker
Timelord/Horford/Freedom

Defense would be at the top fo the league. Offensively we improve a bit as well.

I feel like that is unnecessarily large .

But boston in is a massive yes
Geant in I can really get behind.

You can make it smaller by using JRich, but I really like his fit for this team. Plus Pistons won't place much/any value on him given where they are at as a team (same for Schroder, which is why I brought in the Clips).

[cl2117]

I comment on size of a trade and then come up with this play on the same deal....


Horford and schroder to clippers.
They really help xlippers chances

Schroder
Kennard
Kawhi
George
Horford


Bledsoe, romeo, cash to cover bledsoes salary jext season.( only 4 mill guaranteed next season) 1st from boston to detroit.
Adds youth and continues the tank/youth.


Boston improves. Center is a bit weak but Ibaka wil toughen this team up . Also get below tax.

Smart/pritchard
Brown/richardon/boston
Grant/nesmith
Tatum/grantw/parker/juancho
Timelord/ibaka/freedon

Don't think Brad is willing to move Horford, but I'd do it.

Real question is if Romeo and a first is enough for Detroit. I don't think it is, but I also was reluctant to add another given Grant hasn't exactly blossomed into who the Pistons thought he could be. Feels pricey.

Wonder if the Clips would kick in anything extra here since it feels like they get a lot better, but that extra year of Horford probably kills any chance of that.

[GoGreen]

Celtics have an assets problem. All these dudes avbl, but what do we have that teams want outside of the jays? A lot of meh..

[zoyathedestroya]

There is no player that could realistically be added to Tatum and Brown that would make the Celtics anything other than a .500 team. One set of Celtics fans can propose exchanging their binkies for someone else's binkies and it won't do any good.

If you keep those two, you are looking at another few years of 4th quarters full of ISO ball and frustrating losses waiting and hoping for Tatum and Brown to learn how to play winning basketball.

It's looking like they're shifting from heavy Tatum iso in late games to a more balanced your-turn-my-turn Jays iso attack. Brown has been handling the ball in the 4th more this season. Maybe to ease pressure on Tatum and get him a bit of a rest while he watches Brown do his thing. So fun! I think this has been their compromise -- Jays try to play more team ball 1st three quarters as long they're allowed to iso in the 4th. Lucky us.

[Larry_Russell]

I comment on size of a trade and then come up with this play on the same deal....


Horford and schroder to clippers.
They really help xlippers chances

Schroder
Kennard
Kawhi
George
Horford


Bledsoe, romeo, cash to cover bledsoes salary jext season.( only 4 mill guaranteed next season) 1st from boston to detroit.
Adds youth and continues the tank/youth.


Boston improves. Center is a bit weak but Ibaka wil toughen this team up . Also get below tax.

Smart/pritchard
Brown/richardon/boston
Grant/nesmith
Tatum/grantw/parker/juancho
Timelord/ibaka/freedon

Don't think Brad is willing to move Horford, but I'd do it.

Real question is if Romeo and a first is enough for Detroit. I don't think it is, but I also was reluctant to add another given Grant hasn't exactly blossomed into who the Pistons thought he could be. Feels pricey.

Wonder if the Clips would kick in anything extra here since it feels like they get a lot better, but that extra year of Horford probably kills any chance of that.

Perhaps adding a second from boston tips the scale.

[Dogen]

There is no player that could realistically be added to Tatum and Brown that would make the Celtics anything other than a .500 team. One set of Celtics fans can propose exchanging their binkies for someone else's binkies and it won't do any good.

If you keep those two, you are looking at another few years of 4th quarters full of ISO ball and frustrating losses waiting and hoping for Tatum and Brown to learn how to play winning basketball.

It's looking like they're shifting from heavy Tatum iso in late games to a more balanced your-turn-my-turn Jays iso attack. Brown has been handling the ball in the 4th more this season. Maybe to ease pressure on Tatum and get him a bit of a rest while he watches Brown do his thing. So fun! I think this has been their compromise -- Jays try to play more team ball 1st three quarters as long they're allowed to iso in the 4th. Lucky us.

4th Q iso ball: Tatum gets stripped by two defenders on the drive for his turn, then Jaylen gets met at the rim by three defenders on his.

It’s not that the Jays are not capable, it’s that the opposing team and just about everyone in the building knows what’s going to happen. Too easy to defend, we need a point guard that can shoot to set the table on these possessions.

[zoyathedestroya]

There is no player that could realistically be added to Tatum and Brown that would make the Celtics anything other than a .500 team. One set of Celtics fans can propose exchanging their binkies for someone else's binkies and it won't do any good.

If you keep those two, you are looking at another few years of 4th quarters full of ISO ball and frustrating losses waiting and hoping for Tatum and Brown to learn how to play winning basketball.

It's looking like they're shifting from heavy Tatum iso in late games to a more balanced your-turn-my-turn Jays iso attack. Brown has been handling the ball in the 4th more this season. Maybe to ease pressure on Tatum and get him a bit of a rest while he watches Brown do his thing. So fun! I think this has been their compromise -- Jays try to play more team ball 1st three quarters as long they're allowed to iso in the 4th. Lucky us.

4th Q iso ball: Tatum gets stripped by two defenders on the drive for his turn, then Jaylen gets met at the rim by three defenders on his.

It’s not that the Jays are not capable, it’s that the opposing team and just about everyone in the building knows what’s going to happen. Too easy to defend, we need a point guard that can shoot to set the table on these possessions.

A point guard that wouldn't bow down to the Jays. Someone they'd respect. Or someone not afraid to step on their toes. 'cos if it's just any PG, they'll just call for iso over and over. So where can we get a CP3? If it's someone younger or their age, I don't think Jays would care. Remember all-stars Kemba and Hayward already stepped aside just so they could flourish.

[playa-hater]

I'll keep beating the Jerami Grant drum. Detroit ain't going anywhere any time soon and he's expiring next year, so would make sense to try and cash in before he's devalued.

Boston in: Grant, Boston Jr., Garza
Boston out: Romeo, Schroder, Juancho, Bruno, BOS 2022 first unprotected, BOS 2024 unprotected

Detroit in: Romeo, Ibaka, Winslow, 2 firsts, DET 2025 2nd
Detroit out: Grant, Garza

Clippers in: Schroder, Juancho, Bruno
Clippers out: Ibaka, Winslow, Boston Jr., DET 2025 2nd

Give IT a 10 day and see if he can stick for novelty purposes.

Roll out:

Smart/Pritchard/IT
Brown/Richardson/Boston Jr
Tatum/Nesmith
Grant/G. Williams/Parker
Timelord/Horford/Freedom

Defense would be at the top fo the league. Offensively we improve a bit as well.

like the players but 2 first is too much..

[playa-hater]

Celtics have an assets problem. All these dudes avbl, but what do we have that teams want outside of the jays? A lot of meh..

our draft picks???

[BK_2020]

Jerami Grant left Denver for Detroit so he can play out his #1 option fantasy and put up big numbers on a crappy team. I don't know why people think he's going to be a difference maker for a .500 team.