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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1821 » by Hal14 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:32 am

Curmudgeon wrote:So, which contender will grab Marcus Smart?

I doubt Smart is going anywhere.

-Memphis was the 2 seed in the west for 2 yrs in a row. Just down this year because of injuries/suspensions
-Gave up A LOT for Smart. They're not gonna just move him so quickly, because they lost some games due to injuries/suspensions
-Smart still has a couple more yrs on his contract so even if this season is a waste for them, they're going all in next season and the season after that with the Ja/Bane/JJJ/Smart core.
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Post#1822 » by Hal14 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:35 am

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sounds like they should tank even more now.. although they do play better without Lavine.

Caruso, Come on down!!

*** What contender needs a Caruso that has picks and would be willing to trade for Caruso?

The Bucks don't have draft ammo.

Philly and NYK don't need him as much. Miami can't. Denver?? maybe. LAL for D Russell?? OKC?? Don't really see anyone else that wants or needs a PG that would give up multiple Draft picks.

Either way PP + fillers and draft picks from us is more than what I think Chicago would/could get.

We already have Jrue and White. We have less of a need for a tough guard who's elite on D, can shoot, is a veteran with playoff experience - cause we already have 2 of them - no other team in the league already has 2 of them.

Again, I'm all for trading Pritchard + filler + picks for Caruso, but just trying to stay realistic..

The Bucks need Caruso more than any other team does. They're a contender but desperately need a guard who can defend since their perimeter D is terrible right now. They can offer the same picks we can and they match Caruso's salary with useful rotation players - not Pritchard + 3 end of bench scrubs who are borderline g leaguers.
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Post#1823 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:40 am

Yeah, agree with Hal, PP and other assets for Caruso is very good for the Celtics.

But it's not very good for the Bulls.

Not a realistic trade.
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Post#1824 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sun Feb 4, 2024 2:03 am

Hal14 wrote:
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sounds like they should tank even more now.. although they do play better without Lavine.

Caruso, Come on down!!

*** What contender needs a Caruso that has picks and would be willing to trade for Caruso?

The Bucks don't have draft ammo.

Philly and NYK don't need him as much. Miami can't. Denver?? maybe. LAL for D Russell?? OKC?? Don't really see anyone else that wants or needs a PG that would give up multiple Draft picks.

Either way PP + fillers and draft picks from us is more than what I think Chicago would/could get.

We already have Jrue and White. We have less of a need for a tough guard who's elite on D, can shoot, is a veteran with playoff experience - cause we already have 2 of them - no other team in the league already has 2 of them.

Again, I'm all for trading Pritchard + filler + picks for Caruso, but just trying to stay realistic..

The Bucks need Caruso more than any other team does. They're a contender but desperately need a guard who can defend since their perimeter D is terrible right now. They can offer the same picks we can and they match Caruso's salary with useful rotation players - not Pritchard + 3 end of bench scrubs who are borderline g leaguers.


Need a Hauser replacement over a PP replacement.
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Post#1825 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Feb 4, 2024 2:10 am

The Bucks don't have 1sts to offer. The Celtics do. In terms of picks, Cs can easily beat their offer. Cs issue is salary ballast for these game-changers/difference-makers.
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Post#1826 » by Kabceltics » Sun Feb 4, 2024 2:13 am

What he said.

hugepatsfan wrote:Just because we have the best record in the NBA doesn't mean there isn't clear opportunity to upgrade. Our starting 5 is obviously terrific. Horford is probably the best backup big man in the NBA. That's all rock solid.

Pritchard was played off the court at times last time he was in the playoff rotation. And yeah, maybe a more consistent role will help make him better on offense/shooting. But he was played off the court because he was too small to defend ISOs. He hasn't grown since then. You can't pencil Pritchard in for all rounds. There will be matchups he's not useful for.

Kornet has given some fine regular season minutes but regular season vs. postseason basketball is an entirely different game for centers. Many guys who play well in the regular season get glued to the bench in the playoffs and Kornet is pretty obviously in that group.

Brissett is given good energy but another guy whose game doesn't profile well for a playoff rotation.

Hauser on paper is everything you could want in a 7th/8th man. Shooter and passable defender. But still unproven.

We have a clear and definite opening for someone in the 7th/8th/9th spot of the playoff rotation. Not saying we could never get by with what we have, but it's a very clear area we could improve. And with a TPE, some minimum salary fodder to trade and picks we should definitely be turning over every stone. Not saying we get a stud but I find it hard to believe there isn't a reasonable deal out there that nets us something useful, even if not game-changing.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1827 » by Triple7 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:15 am

We need an extra big not another wing.
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Post#1828 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:20 am

Triple7 wrote:We need an extra big not another wing.

Drummond is very gettable.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1829 » by Hal14 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:30 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:We need an extra big not another wing.

Drummond is very gettable.

Maybe. But doesn't seem like the type of big that Brad covets...unless he's looking to fill a 2-way slot (Queta).

Let's look at the bigs Brad has traded away assets for, or signed to a contract that was larger than a minimum contract:

-Horford
-Porzingis
-Gallinari
-Muscala
-Theis

All can either shoot really well, or have good mobility for a big or had already proven they have good on court and off court chemistry with our team from previous stint in Boston (Theis).
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1830 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:41 am

Hal14 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:We need an extra big not another wing.

Drummond is very gettable.

Maybe. But doesn't seem like the type of big that Brad covets...unless he's looking to fill a 2-way slot (Queta).

Let's look at the bigs Brad has traded away assets for, or signed to a contract that was larger than a minimum contract:

-Horford
-Porzingis
-Gallinari
-Muscala
-Theis

All can either shoot really well, or have good mobility for a big or had already proven they have good on court and off court chemistry with our team from previous stint in Boston (Theis).

Muscala is just no good on the rebounding and defense department.

Gallo is not really a big.

Drummond will give the Cs a lot of rebounds and another big body.

The good thing about Drummond is he doesn't have to play if both Al and KP are healthy.

Cs only need Drummond for the regular season and in case Al or KP misses time in the playoffs.

And salary will not be an issue with getting Drummond.
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Post#1831 » by Hal14 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:51 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Drummond is very gettable.

Maybe. But doesn't seem like the type of big that Brad covets...unless he's looking to fill a 2-way slot (Queta).

Let's look at the bigs Brad has traded away assets for, or signed to a contract that was larger than a minimum contract:

-Horford
-Porzingis
-Gallinari
-Muscala
-Theis

All can either shoot really well, or have good mobility for a big or had already proven they have good on court and off court chemistry with our team from previous stint in Boston (Theis).

Muscala is just no good on the rebounding and defense department.

Gallo is not really a big.

Drummond will give the Cs a lot of rebounds and another big body.

The good thing about Drummond is he doesn't have to play if both Al and KP are healthy.

Cs only need Drummond for the regular season and in case Al or KP misses time in the playoffs.

And salary will not be an issue with getting Drummond.

But the point I was making is, the pattern we have seen from Brad with his moves since taking the job is to only get bigs who can shoot.

And there were multiple reports that said Gallinari was gonna play some center for us (as well as PF) before he got hurt.
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Post#1832 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:53 am

Hal14 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Maybe. But doesn't seem like the type of big that Brad covets...unless he's looking to fill a 2-way slot (Queta).

Let's look at the bigs Brad has traded away assets for, or signed to a contract that was larger than a minimum contract:

-Horford
-Porzingis
-Gallinari
-Muscala
-Theis

All can either shoot really well, or have good mobility for a big or had already proven they have good on court and off court chemistry with our team from previous stint in Boston (Theis).

Muscala is just no good on the rebounding and defense department.

Gallo is not really a big.

Drummond will give the Cs a lot of rebounds and another big body.

The good thing about Drummond is he doesn't have to play if both Al and KP are healthy.

Cs only need Drummond for the regular season and in case Al or KP misses time in the playoffs.

And salary will not be an issue with getting Drummond.

But the point I was making is, the pattern we have seen from Brad with his moves since taking the job is to only get bigs who can shoot.

And there were multiple reports that said Gallinari was gonna play some center for us (as well as PF) before he got hurt.

Brad was able to play Greg Monroe a few years back.

And Queta is not exactly a big who can shoot, but he's making an impact in some games.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1833 » by Triple7 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:07 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:We need an extra big not another wing.

Drummond is very gettable.


Yeah lets get him.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#1834 » by Triple7 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:09 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Drummond is very gettable.

Maybe. But doesn't seem like the type of big that Brad covets...unless he's looking to fill a 2-way slot (Queta).

Let's look at the bigs Brad has traded away assets for, or signed to a contract that was larger than a minimum contract:

-Horford
-Porzingis
-Gallinari
-Muscala
-Theis

All can either shoot really well, or have good mobility for a big or had already proven they have good on court and off court chemistry with our team from previous stint in Boston (Theis).

Muscala is just no good on the rebounding and defense department.

Gallo is not really a big.

Drummond will give the Cs a lot of rebounds and another big body.

The good thing about Drummond is he doesn't have to play if both Al and KP are healthy.

Cs only need Drummond for the regular season and in case Al or KP misses time in the playoffs.

And salary will not be an issue with getting Drummond.


Agree with this. He’s fine playing 10-15mins on most nights. Still a monster on the boards if given the time.
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Post#1835 » by Triple7 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:13 am

Brad should prioritize getting a big. A wide body to at least bang with giannis and embiid. Queta won’t play in the playoffs. Kornet is just too soft. Horf camps around behind the arc, making him useless to get offensive boards.
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Post#1836 » by Dogen » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:31 am

Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Maybe. But doesn't seem like the type of big that Brad covets...unless he's looking to fill a 2-way slot (Queta).

Let's look at the bigs Brad has traded away assets for, or signed to a contract that was larger than a minimum contract:

-Horford
-Porzingis
-Gallinari
-Muscala
-Theis

All can either shoot really well, or have good mobility for a big or had already proven they have good on court and off court chemistry with our team from previous stint in Boston (Theis).

Muscala is just no good on the rebounding and defense department.

Gallo is not really a big.

Drummond will give the Cs a lot of rebounds and another big body.

The good thing about Drummond is he doesn't have to play if both Al and KP are healthy.

Cs only need Drummond for the regular season and in case Al or KP misses time in the playoffs.

And salary will not be an issue with getting Drummond.


Agree with this. He’s fine playing 10-15mins on most nights. Still a monster on the boards if given the time.


I think we all understand Drummond's limitation's, including how he can't be relied upon at the end of games due to his FT%.

He'd be fine for that 10 minutes a game or to fill in for injuries, and is great to grab a board, or wear guys down a bit.

But I just don't see him as a guy Brad and Joe would want. Bad free throw, no 3pt shot, slow on switches, can't guard the perimeter. I'd really be surprised to see the Celtics get him.
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Post#1837 » by Fierce1 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:01 am

Triple7 wrote:Brad should prioritize getting a big. A wide body to at least bang with giannis and embiid. Queta won’t play in the playoffs. Kornet is just too soft. Horf camps around behind the arc, making him useless to get offensive boards.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10107568-celtics-rumors-bos-searching-for-frontcourt-depth-ahead-of-2024-nba-trade-deadline

Article says Brad looking for frontcourt depth.
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Post#1838 » by G R E Y » Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:16 am

Hey Cs fans, have you heard anything about your interest in acquiring Cedi? Checking if there's any substance to it. Thanks.
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Post#1839 » by Parliament10 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 9:22 am

G R E Y wrote:Hey Cs fans, have you heard anything about your interest in acquiring Cedi? Checking if there's any substance to it. Thanks.

We'll do our due diligence and keep the feelers out.
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Post#1840 » by Parliament10 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 9:32 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:Brad should prioritize getting a big. A wide body to at least bang with giannis and embiid. Queta won’t play in the playoffs. Kornet is just too soft. Horf camps around behind the arc, making him useless to get offensive boards.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10107568-celtics-rumors-bos-searching-for-frontcourt-depth-ahead-of-2024-nba-trade-deadline

Article says Brad looking for frontcourt depth.

I think it's a smokescreen. I don't think that we're doing anything, unless something fantastic falls in our laps.
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