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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread 

Post#1841 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:25 pm

Too much hero ball not enough ball movement. This was true against Both New York and Miami. The biggest culprit was Brown but there were others. It took some great defensive plays From Holiday and White to win a game that should have been easy once Herro cooled off in the 2nd half.
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Post#1842 » by Triple M » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:59 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Too much hero ball not enough ball movement. This was true against Both New York and Miami. The biggest culprit was Brown but there were others. It took some great defensive plays From Holiday and White to win a game that should have been easy once Herro cooled off in the 2nd half.


The hero ball is working for now but i would hope to see us getting back to moving the ball and i believe we will. That being said i believe in this iteration of the team will have more sucess in the playoffs when the game slows down because they are better at getting to the line and getting tough twos.
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Post#1843 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:18 pm

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Post#1844 » by tleikheen » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:37 pm

Only 2 games but KP at 23 ppg which he had last yr ...He was at 49 percent at 2 last yr and 38.5 percent from 3 at 85 Percent from FT and he's above 50/40/85 again already
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Post#1845 » by Deivork » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:00 pm

It was nice to get two very losable games, but what is the point of Brad waiting to get a proven big guy? We just missed on Byombo.
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Post#1846 » by Hal14 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:36 pm

Deivork wrote:It was nice to get two very losable games, but what is the point of Brad waiting to get a proven big guy? We just missed on Byombo.

Biyombo was a FA for the entire offseason. All 30 teams passed on him (including the Suns who chose to not bring him back) so it's disingenuous to say the Celtics missed on him.

We could've signed him, but clearly there was more mutual interest between Boston and Wenyen Gabriel, so Gabriel was signed once we traded Rob.

It seemed like (going into camp) that Gabriel would make the team. But clearly Brad wants to leave that 15th roster spot open for now and is comfortable rolling with KP, Al, Kornet and Queta for bigs. Plus we picked up Knight...Knight and Queta come with the flexibility of being able to put them on a 2-way (which means we save a bunch of $ and don't have to commit a standard roster spot to a fringe guy who's not gonna play much, at all).

Biyombo is decent. But he's over 30, has chronic knee issues, and offers very little in terms of shooting, passing, ball handling, defensive switchability and teams in the modern NBA are typically looking for bigs who can do at least 1 of those things pretty well. End of the bench bigs who have a less versatile, more traditional game and are over age 30 are not in very high demand..
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Post#1847 » by Deivork » Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:45 pm

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Deivork wrote:It was nice to get two very losable games, but what is the point of Brad waiting to get a proven big guy? We just missed on Byombo.

Biyombo was a FA for the entire offseason. All 30 teams passed on him (including the Suns who chose to not bring him back) so it's disingenuous to say the Celtics missed on him.

We could've signed him, but clearly there was more mutual interest between Boston and Wenyen Gabriel, so Gabriel was signed once we traded Rob.

It seemed like (going into camp) that Gabriel would make the team. But clearly Brad wants to leave that 15th roster spot open for now and is comfortable rolling with KP, Al, Kornet and Queta for bigs. Plus we picked up Knight...Knight and Queta come with the flexibility of being able to put them on a 2-way (which means we save a bunch of $ and don't have to commit a standard roster spot to a fringe guy who's not gonna play much, at all).

Biyombo is decent. But he's over 30, has chronic knee issues, and offers very little in terms of shooting, passing, ball handling, defensive switchability and teams in the modern NBA are typically looking for bigs who can do at least 1 of those things pretty well. End of the bench bigs who have a less versatile, more traditional game and are over age 30 are not in very high demand..


Thanks for the info on Byiombo, but I'd still be more comfortable with an extra big (yeah, maybe someone else would fit better). Our top-6 could ease a bit on minutes, and specially for the games that KP or Al will miss.

My point is if we're going to commit for that roster spot eventually, why wait?
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Post#1848 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:51 pm

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Deivork wrote:It was nice to get two very losable games, but what is the point of Brad waiting to get a proven big guy? We just missed on Byombo.

Biyombo was a FA for the entire offseason. All 30 teams passed on him (including the Suns who chose to not bring him back) so it's disingenuous to say the Celtics missed on him.

We could've signed him, but clearly there was more mutual interest between Boston and Wenyen Gabriel, so Gabriel was signed once we traded Rob.

It seemed like (going into camp) that Gabriel would make the team. But clearly Brad wants to leave that 15th roster spot open for now and is comfortable rolling with KP, Al, Kornet and Queta for bigs. Plus we picked up Knight...Knight and Queta come with the flexibility of being able to put them on a 2-way (which means we save a bunch of $ and don't have to commit a standard roster spot to a fringe guy who's not gonna play much, at all).

Biyombo is decent. But he's over 30, has chronic knee issues, and offers very little in terms of shooting, passing, ball handling, defensive switchability and teams in the modern NBA are typically looking for bigs who can do at least 1 of those things pretty well. End of the bench bigs who have a less versatile, more traditional game and are over age 30 are not in very high demand..


Thanks for the info on Byiombo, but I'd still be more comfortable with an extra big (yeah, maybe someone else would fit better). Our top-6 could ease a bit on minutes, and specially for the games that KP or Al will miss.

My point is if we're going to commit for that roster spot eventually, why wait?

Someone better might come along during buyout season. But if money's not an issue, they could sign someone now and just waive someone else later if a better player becomes available midseason.

Also holding off in case a major injury happens. Then you'd have to sign someone who plays that position and not just anybody right now.
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Post#1849 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:00 am

Loved the Marcus Smart homage at the end of the clip.

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Post#1851 » by bisme37 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:48 pm

Joe to Jrue: "You wrote an article like 5 years ago on your body position on Pistol, and that's why we guard stuff the way we guard. So thank you."

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Post#1854 » by Hal14 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:28 pm

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Really good article.

Al is such a good dude. How can you not love the guy and root for him? Great mindset, great attitude, such a hard worker, he's level headed.

And clearly he is fine with coming off the bench so hopefully this article squashes those BS rumors.
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Post#1855 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:02 am

After a full week of NBA games, your Boston Celtics are the lone undefeated team in the East. Mavs and Nuggets have yet to lose in the West.
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Post#1857 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:33 am

Those are the same dudes that put up a triple double and back-to-back career highs late last season. Stick with them. It’s been three games. Looong season ahead.
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