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Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1841 » by playa-hater » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:37 am

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There were those on the General Board that thought he was MVP material. I don't know if he's worth a flyer


Absolutely give him a flyer.. I still believe he has too much talent not to at least Kick the tires on..
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1842 » by Fierce1 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:41 am

If Poku is a tire, he's a very slim tire.

Only way a guy as slim as Poku makes it in the NBA is if he's really talented.

Poku is tailor-made for the international game.

Celtics should not waste time and money on Poku.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1843 » by cl2117 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:34 am

I'm fine with giving Queta a standard NBA contract. Give him a 3 year deal with the last year non-guaranteed and see if he can develop into a cheap depth piece. He's still young enough, shows enough upside to make it worthwhile.

With how well Luke has been playing, I can appreciate why they might be hesitant to add yet another big man though. KP/Horford are obviously the core duo, Kornet has locked in the 3rd big spot and Tillman gives you a small ball option wiht more defensive versatility. Queta doesn't really add anything to that group apart from upside and deep depth. If they plan on bringing Luke and Tillman back next year, they're probably better off taking a flyer on a guy at a different position.

Our wing depth is deceptively strong, so I wouldn't be surprised if we added a guard instead. Brissett as a jack of all trades/master of none would fill most gaps we'd have. Svi is a reasonably decent poor man's Hauser with less shooting/more playmaking. Springer adds more defensive depth and Walsh is a wildcard as a much bigger/longer version.

We obviously don't need a guard, but I'd argue it's our thinnest position. If anything were to happen to Jrue/White/Pritchard, I'd expect us to compensate by giving wings more minutes and playing through our remaining stars more, but couldn't hurt to have another ballhandler on the bench.

I'm fine with Queta, but at the same time I'd be keen on seeing us take a shot on a project C in the draft this season and maybe that's just too many big bodies for the roster ultimately.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1844 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:51 pm

I'm fine with any of the options, since none of them will matter much. But if they don't convert Queta, they had better be prepared to match offers in July.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1845 » by celtxman » Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:28 pm

Fierce1 wrote:If Poku is a tire, he's a very slim tire.

Only way a guy as slim as Poku makes it in the NBA is if he's really talented.

Poku is tailor-made for the international game.

Celtics should not waste time and money on Poku.
The odds of this working out are indeed slim especially since OKC flat out let him go. But we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for this unless Brad has someone else in mind. I'd have no problem with Poku coming in and see what he could do next year.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1846 » by Hal14 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:18 pm

Just not worth it imo to even bother taking a flier on a guy who's been in the league for 3.5 years, did basically nothing that whole time, then gets waived and brings very little to the table on either end of the floor (Poku, Killian, Romeo Langford a year ago, etc...)

Some lottery picks are busts. It is what it is.

Poku wasn't even a lottery pick..
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1847 » by snowman » Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:10 pm

I would sign Queta to a minimum contract NOW and lock him up for as long as I could. If we can go 3 years for 6-7 million total, with a team option for the final year, then I do it. Even with the addition of Tillman, Queta brings an energy that none of our other big men have. Tillman can also play the power forward spot.
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Then, if we find someone that fits as a PG or a wing that we want, and brings more of a need than Svi, then release Svi and sign the new guy. Svi was considered a 3-point shooter when we signed him, but he has not shown so much to me.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1848 » by Gant » Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:17 pm

If Queta just got released last week by Sacramento and the Celtics picked him up, that would be a great buyout signing.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1849 » by BK_2020 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:09 pm

Queta has some positive attributes but I don't know why people push this "energy" narrative. The guy looks and moves more lethargic than Embiid.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1850 » by snowman » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:24 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Queta has some positive attributes but I don't know why people push this "energy" narrative. The guy looks and moves more lethargic than Embiid.


When I watch him play, he seems to have more "bounce" in his 2nd jump. He gets off his feet for rebounds and blocks with his 2nd jump quicker than any of our other big men. Sure, he looks "lethargic" guarding smaller, quicker guards, but what 7 footer with any weight/strength doesn't. When going after rebounds, granted many are his own misses, but he just seems quicker to the ball with his jumps.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1851 » by Ben-N1ce » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:48 pm

Celtics dont need anything except Health. A finals berth should be their floor for a goal. Anything less is a failure by the coaches and players.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1852 » by BK_2020 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:51 pm

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BK_2020 wrote:Queta has some positive attributes but I don't know why people push this "energy" narrative. The guy looks and moves more lethargic than Embiid.


When I watch him play, he seems to have more "bounce" in his 2nd jump. He gets off his feet for rebounds and blocks with his 2nd jump quicker than any of our other big men. Sure, he looks "lethargic" guarding smaller, quicker guards, but what 7 footer with any weight/strength doesn't. When going after rebounds, granted many are his own misses, but he just seems quicker to the ball with his jumps.

Not saying he's not effective on the offensive glass but he doesn't look like a quick jumper to me. He's more a Mitch Robinson type than a Rob Williams-type.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1853 » by BK_2020 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:52 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:Celtics dont need anything except Health. A finals berth should be their floor for a goal. Anything less is a failure by the coaches and players.

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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1854 » by Bar Fight » Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:13 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:Celtics dont need anything except Health. A finals berth should be their floor for a goal. Anything less is a failure by the coaches and players.

A finals loss is a failure too
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1855 » by RickyDizzle » Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:53 am

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Ben-N1ce wrote:Celtics dont need anything except Health. A finals berth should be their floor for a goal. Anything less is a failure by the coaches and players.

A finals loss is a failure too


Why not promote Queta and see if Poku will sign a 2 way?
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1856 » by BK_2020 » Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:54 am

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Ben-N1ce wrote:Celtics dont need anything except Health. A finals berth should be their floor for a goal. Anything less is a failure by the coaches and players.

A finals loss is a failure too


Why not promote Queta and see if Poku will sign a 2 way?

Because that would result in Poku being a part of the team in some way.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1857 » by RickyDizzle » Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:07 am

BK_2020 wrote:
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Bar Fight wrote:A finals loss is a failure too


Why not promote Queta and see if Poku will sign a 2 way?

Because that would result in Poku being a part of the team in some way.


I see where you stand on it. Haha.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1858 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:45 pm

Convert Queta and offer Poku a two-way. He'd be fine in Maine.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1859 » by brackdan70 » Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:59 pm

I don’t get the excitement over this pony guy. He is tall…but that’s it really. Why even waste a two way on him. There are a lot better uses of that 15th roster spot including doing nothing.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1860 » by chakdaddy » Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:18 pm

Teams seem less gunshy of euro busts but he seems like a throwback.

Speaking of foreign busts, will Ben Simmons' next stop be Australian NBL?

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