Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

[ConstableGeneva]

Is Beasley a free agent? He's made himself a lot of money with the way he's played in Detroit this season.

Yep, UFA. One year deal. No bird rights even.

So they don't have the option to max him like the Celtics do with Kornet. Tsk.

[djFan71]

Is Beasley a free agent? He's made himself a lot of money with the way he's played in Detroit this season.

Yep, UFA. One year deal. No bird rights even.

So they don't have the option to max him like the Celtics do with Kornet. Tsk.

Not everyone’s a pobo genius

[chrisab123]

The only massive move if a big one is made that I can see the team making is calling up Memphis and seeing if the Grizzlies are interested in KP Jrue and Hauser for Ja Morant. I know Ja does have some fans on Causway Street. I don’t even know if it would be possible. But a lineup of Ja/White/Brown/Tatum/Center would be lethal.

Would put them back in this situation in 2 years but…would help for now.

[phincsfan]

The only massive move if a big one is made that I can see the team making is calling up Memphis and seeing if the Grizzlies are interested in KP Jrue and Hauser for Ja Morant. I know Ja does have some fans on Causway Street. I don’t even know if it would be possible. But a lineup of Ja/White/Brown/Tatum/Center would be lethal.

Would put them back in this situation in 2 years but…would help for now.

IMO, he's the most overrated player in the last 10 years.

Besides his typical missed games due to injuries, his new "hand" gun game which seems like he can't control himself from doing will almost certainly cause a few games to be missed also.

No thanks

[chrisab123]

The only massive move if a big one is made that I can see the team making is calling up Memphis and seeing if the Grizzlies are interested in KP Jrue and Hauser for Ja Morant. I know Ja does have some fans on Causway Street. I don’t even know if it would be possible. But a lineup of Ja/White/Brown/Tatum/Center would be lethal.

Would put them back in this situation in 2 years but…would help for now.

IMO, he's the most overrated player in the last 10 years.

Besides his typical missed games due to injuries, his new "hand" gun game which seems like he can't control himself from doing will almost certainly cause a few games to be missed also.

No thanks

He does have fans over there. A lot of things are maturity issues that could be fixed with a good culture.

[Fierce1]

The biggest concern is Ja's injury risk.

Jumping like he's on a trampoline will result in an injury.

It's a bad investment.

[31to6]

The only massive move if a big one is made that I can see the team making is calling up Memphis and seeing if the Grizzlies are interested in KP Jrue and Hauser for Ja Morant. I know Ja does have some fans on Causway Street. I don’t even know if it would be possible. But a lineup of Ja/White/Brown/Tatum/Center would be lethal.

Would put them back in this situation in 2 years but…would help for now.

IMO, he's the most overrated player in the last 10 years.

Besides his typical missed games due to injuries, his new "hand" gun game which seems like he can't control himself from doing will almost certainly cause a few games to be missed also.

No thanks

He does have fans over there. A lot of things are maturity issues that could be fixed with a good culture.

As a second apron team, we can't combine outgoing salaries for one inbound player, right?

[chrisab123]

IMO, he's the most overrated player in the last 10 years.

Besides his typical missed games due to injuries, his new "hand" gun game which seems like he can't control himself from doing will almost certainly cause a few games to be missed also.

No thanks

He does have fans over there. A lot of things are maturity issues that could be fixed with a good culture.

As a second apron team, we can't combine outgoing salaries for one inbound player, right?

I think you can provided the incoming salary is less.

[Gant]

IMO, he's the most overrated player in the last 10 years.

Besides his typical missed games due to injuries, his new "hand" gun game which seems like he can't control himself from doing will almost certainly cause a few games to be missed also.

No thanks

He does have fans over there. A lot of things are maturity issues that could be fixed with a good culture.

As a second apron team, we can't combine outgoing salaries for one inbound player, right?

It can't be done unless the trade results in the team getting under the second apron.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

The only massive move if a big one is made that I can see the team making is calling up Memphis and seeing if the Grizzlies are interested in KP Jrue and Hauser for Ja Morant. I know Ja does have some fans on Causway Street. I don’t even know if it would be possible. But a lineup of Ja/White/Brown/Tatum/Center would be lethal.

Would put them back in this situation in 2 years but…would help for now.

Holiday straight up is a better player than Morant. A more durable one too despite the age difference. Even if you are absolutely committed to getting under the second apron, this is not the way to do it.

[playa-hater]

None of our starting 5 will be fun to trade. But if forced to for "Cap" reasons, you would think Jrue would be first to Go due to salary/Age/usage etc.. Don't think we would miss him much in the regular season, but playoffs would be a different story. But how many contenders out there could even absorb his contract?

Not salary easy but Dallas with the loss of Kyrie for half of next season and with a GM in win now mode could really use a Defensive combo guard who can step in at either PG or along Kyrie when the time comes. They have the 11th pick. would a Jrue plus 28 get us 11??

The 2 other teams that on paper (not salary) would be Orlando and Denver. Even with Suggs coming back, Jrue and Orlando would be perfect together. Ditto Denver. Just don't know how the salary would/could work.

Brown could/would net us the best return in theory. Houston has been mentioned. Would Amen Thompson and/or Ja Smith plus FVV (salary reasons only) + their lottery pick work? Atlanta needs to do something for sure. Brown to Atlanta we get Jalen Johnson and draft picks and they ship out Trae young to whomever takes on his salary and gives them some assets.

dang, I need some answers.

[Hal14]

Here's what I think we do..

1) trade Hauser..save some $..he's replaceable..slide Scheierman into that spot..with Walsh and CRaig (resigned to vet min, 1 yr deal) as wing depth. Maybe we bring Peterson back on a 2-way too

Move Hauser to a team that wants some wing depth and shooting help. And has enough cap space to take his salary, while only sending us a player who's on a cheap contract (who may just get waived by us, or maybe we keep him)

2) Trade KP..constant injury issues and he turns 30 yrs old this summer..so the injuries will probably only get worse and more frequent. And he was exposed a bit in the orlando series in terms of getting hunsted defensively and not being able to defend guys out on the perimeter. Just move him now. We may have to attach our 1st round pick in this year's draft to get a team to take him. But that's ok..we have pick 28 and 32 in this year's draft..trade pick 28 to move KP and we still have 32 to draft a decent player..without having pay him 1st round money..again, move him to a team that wants another big. And a team that has enough cap space to take his contract. We just take back like 1 player on a cheap contract in the deal, who may get immediately waived

3) resign Kornet and Al to cheap deals..

4) move Tillman, either just to dump his contract (he seems pretty much useless at this point) or pick up a 2nd round pick or a decent bench player to help fill a gap on the roster somewhere.

Not sure if those deals get us under the apron or if we have to also move Jrue? I'm hoping to keep him. He's a very valuable piece. Does the little things well, makes shots, helps in so many ways. Love the defensive versatility, being able to defend bigger guys like Paolo or guards. Think his game will continue to age well, since he doesn't rely much on athleticism, is a good shooter, isn't super injury prone. Has a hamstring injury now but I'm not too worried about a hamstring.

Then at C, we have Al, Luke. Queta. Maybe a guy we draft next month there. I honestly would try experimenting here and there with Tatum as a small ball 5. He's like 6'9", 238 lbs, 6'11" wingspan. Not too far off in size from quite a few guys in the league who play C. Tatum is a good rebounder too. I probably wouldn't play him there a lot..just in short spurts..but you could play a lineup with tatum at the 5, brown at the 4 along with Jrue, White and Pritchard. Good luck to teams trying to defend that.

[playa-hater]

Here's what I think we do..

1) trade Hauser..save some $..he's replaceable..slide Scheierman into that spot..with Walsh and CRaig (resigned to vet min, 1 yr deal) as wing depth. Maybe we bring Peterson back on a 2-way too

Move Hauser to a team that wants some wing depth and shooting help. And has enough cap space to take his salary, while only sending us a player who's on a cheap contract (who may just get waived by us, or maybe we keep him)

2) Trade KP..constant injury issues and he turns 30 yrs old this summer..so the injuries will probably only get worse and more frequent. And he was exposed a bit in the orlando series in terms of getting hunsted defensively and not being able to defend guys out on the perimeter. Just move him now. We may have to attach our 1st round pick in this year's draft to get a team to take him. But that's ok..we have pick 28 and 32 in this year's draft..trade pick 28 to move KP and we still have 32 to draft a decent player..without having pay him 1st round money..again, move him to a team that wants another big. And a team that has enough cap space to take his contract. We just take back like 1 player on a cheap contract in the deal, who may get immediately waived

3) resign Kornet and Al to cheap deals..

4) move Tillman, either just to dump his contract (he seems pretty much useless at this point) or pick up a 2nd round pick or a decent bench player to help fill a gap on the roster somewhere.

Not sure if those deals get us under the apron or if we have to also move Jrue? I'm hoping to keep him. He's a very valuable piece. Does the little things well, makes shots, helps in so many ways. Love the defensive versatility, being able to defend bigger guys like Paolo or guards. Think his game will continue to age well, since he doesn't really much on athleticism, is a good shooter, isn't super injury prone. Has a hamstring injury now but I'm not too worried about a hamstring.

Then at C, we have Al, Luke. Queta. Maybe a guy we draft next month there. I honestly would try experimenting here and there with Tatum as a small ball 5. He's like 6'9", 238 lbs, 6'11" wingspan. Not too far off in size from quite a few guys in the league who play C. Tatum is a good rebounder too. I probably wouldn't play him there a lot..just in short spurts..but you could play a lineup with tatum at the 5, brown at the 3 along with Jrue, White and Pritchrd. Good luck to teams trying to defend that.

Trading, Hauser makes sense in that he can definitely be replaced. I just don't consider that A salary cap move big enough. But what do I know.

[playa-hater]

Also, Brooklyn has 4 1st round picks. They cannot possibly want four rookies in one year. I'm trying to figure a way to get up to some of they're higher picks with a trade.

[djFan71]

Here's what I think we do..

1) trade Hauser..save some $..he's replaceable..slide Scheierman into that spot..with Walsh and CRaig (resigned to vet min, 1 yr deal) as wing depth. Maybe we bring Peterson back on a 2-way too

Move Hauser to a team that wants some wing depth and shooting help. And has enough cap space to take his salary, while only sending us a player who's on a cheap contract (who may just get waived by us, or maybe we keep him)

2) Trade KP..constant injury issues and he turns 30 yrs old this summer..so the injuries will probably only get worse and more frequent. And he was exposed a bit in the orlando series in terms of getting hunsted defensively and not being able to defend guys out on the perimeter. Just move him now. We may have to attach our 1st round pick in this year's draft to get a team to take him. But that's ok..we have pick 28 and 32 in this year's draft..trade pick 28 to move KP and we still have 32 to draft a decent player..without having pay him 1st round money..again, move him to a team that wants another big. And a team that has enough cap space to take his contract. We just take back like 1 player on a cheap contract in the deal, who may get immediately waived

3) resign Kornet and Al to cheap deals..

4) move Tillman, either just to dump his contract (he seems pretty much useless at this point) or pick up a 2nd round pick or a decent bench player to help fill a gap on the roster somewhere.

Not sure if those deals get us under the apron or if we have to also move Jrue? I'm hoping to keep him. He's a very valuable piece. Does the little things well, makes shots, helps in so many ways. Love the defensive versatility, being able to defend bigger guys like Paolo or guards. Think his game will continue to age well, since he doesn't really much on athleticism, is a good shooter, isn't super injury prone. Has a hamstring injury now but I'm not too worried about a hamstring.

Then at C, we have Al, Luke. Queta. Maybe a guy we draft next month there. I honestly would try experimenting here and there with Tatum as a small ball 5. He's like 6'9", 238 lbs, 6'11" wingspan. Not too far off in size from quite a few guys in the league who play C. Tatum is a good rebounder too. I probably wouldn't play him there a lot..just in short spurts..but you could play a lineup with tatum at the 5, brown at the 3 along with Jrue, White and Pritchrd. Good luck to teams trying to defend that.

Trading, Hauser makes sense in that he can definitely be replaced. I just don't consider that A salary cap move big enough. But what do I know.

I think Hauser's the first step in most scenarios. He's the only one I can think of that you can take nothing back (though of course you do have to replace his roster spot with a min). Hence my trade him to move up in the draft ideas.

As far as KP, I dunno. He did get blown by a few times, but that doesn't mean you can't use him for a net benefit most of the game - including playoffs. Sub him out defensively in crunch - depending on the other teams rosters - but overall, I'd keep him. Even with the health concerns. He raises the team's ceiling, so he's worth the risk. He expires next summer when you really need to save $ to duck the 2nd apron. Then you decide between resigning him and trading Jrue basically.

For 2026-27, we're currently ~$8M under the first apron, $21M under the 2nd. That's with only 9 guys, but including Sam (which could be 3-4 min guys and/or 2026 draft guys). You could possibly duck under the 2nd by just signing letting KP walk and replacing with a few min guys and low draft picks.

Ultimately:
- trade Sam this summer (ideally at draft) and save $50M or more in salary/tax and get a 3rd year run-it back and 1st year owner honeymoon (excluding their wallets).
- Duck 2nd apron in 2026-27 thru 2026-29 and you're good 2nd apron draft penalty wise.
- You're still paying a lot of tax (repeater even), but you're not getting the really tough basketball penalties.

If you want to get under the 1st apron (lux tax) you're still within range, but you have more work to do and you get neither of KP/Jrue most likely.

[165bows]

Here's what I think we do..

1) trade Hauser..save some $..he's replaceable..slide Scheierman into that spot..with Walsh and CRaig (resigned to vet min, 1 yr deal) as wing depth. Maybe we bring Peterson back on a 2-way too

Move Hauser to a team that wants some wing depth and shooting help. And has enough cap space to take his salary, while only sending us a player who's on a cheap contract (who may just get waived by us, or maybe we keep him)

2) Trade KP..constant injury issues and he turns 30 yrs old this summer..so the injuries will probably only get worse and more frequent. And he was exposed a bit in the orlando series in terms of getting hunsted defensively and not being able to defend guys out on the perimeter. Just move him now. We may have to attach our 1st round pick in this year's draft to get a team to take him. But that's ok..we have pick 28 and 32 in this year's draft..trade pick 28 to move KP and we still have 32 to draft a decent player..without having pay him 1st round money..again, move him to a team that wants another big. And a team that has enough cap space to take his contract. We just take back like 1 player on a cheap contract in the deal, who may get immediately waived

3) resign Kornet and Al to cheap deals..

4) move Tillman, either just to dump his contract (he seems pretty much useless at this point) or pick up a 2nd round pick or a decent bench player to help fill a gap on the roster somewhere.

Not sure if those deals get us under the apron or if we have to also move Jrue? I'm hoping to keep him. He's a very valuable piece. Does the little things well, makes shots, helps in so many ways. Love the defensive versatility, being able to defend bigger guys like Paolo or guards. Think his game will continue to age well, since he doesn't really much on athleticism, is a good shooter, isn't super injury prone. Has a hamstring injury now but I'm not too worried about a hamstring.

Then at C, we have Al, Luke. Queta. Maybe a guy we draft next month there. I honestly would try experimenting here and there with Tatum as a small ball 5. He's like 6'9", 238 lbs, 6'11" wingspan. Not too far off in size from quite a few guys in the league who play C. Tatum is a good rebounder too. I probably wouldn't play him there a lot..just in short spurts..but you could play a lineup with tatum at the 5, brown at the 3 along with Jrue, White and Pritchrd. Good luck to teams trying to defend that.

Trading, Hauser makes sense in that he can definitely be replaced. I just don't consider that A salary cap move big enough. But what do I know.

I think Hauser's the first step in most scenarios. He's the only one I can think of that you can take nothing back (though of course you do have to replace his roster spot with a min). Hence my trade him to move up in the draft ideas.

As far as KP, I dunno. He did get blown by a few times, but that doesn't mean you can't use him for a net benefit most of the game - including playoffs. Sub him out defensively in crunch - depending on the other teams rosters - but overall, I'd keep him. Even with the health concerns. He raises the team's ceiling, so he's worth the risk. He expires next summer when you really need to save $ to duck the 2nd apron. Then you decide between resigning him and trading Jrue basically.

For 2026-27, we're currently ~$8M under the first apron, $21M under the 2nd. That's with only 9 guys, but including Sam (which could be 3-4 min guys and/or 2026 draft guys). You could possibly duck under the 2nd by just signing letting KP walk and replacing with a few min guys and low draft picks.

Ultimately:
- trade Sam this summer (ideally at draft) and save $50M or more in salary/tax and get a 3rd year run-it back and 1st year owner honeymoon (excluding their wallets).
- Duck 2nd apron in 2026-27 thru 2026-29 and you're good 2nd apron draft penalty wise.
- You're still paying a lot of tax (repeater even), but you're not getting the really tough basketball penalties.

If you want to get under the 1st apron (lux tax) you're still within range, but you have more work to do and you get neither of KP/Jrue most likely.

KP/Hauser to Orlando for one of their big men (M. Wagner or Carter Jr) and some of their draft capital. Hate dumping value and proven guys here but if they have to save $ then I guess something has to go.

Also don’t really love the guys in this draft. If they got 16 I might just try to get Murray Boyles and play him as a small ball 5 but I don’t love any of them that much compared to the guys the team already has.

[ThePigeon]

Can we sign Al to a 2-way deal + coaching position?
Get 50+ games a season, sign him for 1 year for the playoff at the end of the season and pay him big $ as a coach, just to save money

Obviously trade KP and Hauser for lesser money assets (although I would keep Hauser if I can)

[phincsfan]

If PP can score his average in the playoffs he can get the C's a future 1st IMO because his contract is so cheap.

I'd sell high and save a little with the tax.

I also think Sam was gonna have a breakout season before his back issues. I'd keep him and let him work for that 6th man next year and sell high on him next offseason.

I'd rather keep Jrue than KP because you know even at his age, whenever he misses time it's usually due to management. Jrue's a lock for 60-65 games a season.

[phincsfan]

Here's my 4 team Quadrella trade for all you Derby fans (17-5-19-15 by the way ) Chances of me winning is like the chances of this trade happening

C's, Nets, Pistons and Clips

C's get Fontecchio (signed for 25/26 only), Reed (expiring), Jones Jr. (signed for 25/26 and 26/27 for 10mil each season) and Nets 26th slot

Pistons get Cameron Johnson and Norman Powell (Pistons got better) Stewart-Johnson-Thompson-Powell-Cunningham

Nets get Pritchard, Harris, C's 28th slot, Clips 30th slot, Pistons 2028 1st and Pistons 2030 1st (Nets want picks for Johnson)

Clips get KP, Whitehead, 36th slot (A move to cut salary unless they decide to give KP a mini deal) They'll be going into the 26/27 season with a lot of cap space.

C's then take the 26th and 32nd and move them to Atlanta for the 22nd pick

With the 22nd pick I'd draft Sorber

That trade plus moving Tillman and the 25/26 payroll is down to 202mil

Gotta bring back AL

AL-JT-JB-White-Jrue
Neems-Sam-Fontecchio-Jones Jr-Rico (Nice size 2nd unit)
Sorber-Peterson (2way)-Norris (2way)

[Hal14]

KP/Hauser to Orlando for one of their big men (M. Wagner or Carter Jr) and some of their draft capital. Hate dumping value and proven guys here but if they have to save $ then I guess something has to go.

Also don’t really love the guys in this draft. If they got 16 I might just try to get Murray Boyles and play him as a small ball 5 but I don’t love any of them that much compared to the guys the team already has.

I'd rather not help out a team like Orlando.

Seems like Brad typically tries to make deals with teams who are bad and/or teams in the west (Spurs, OKC was bad when we did the Horford deal, Portland, sent smart to memphis when they were bad, indy was bad when we sent them nesmith, washington..)