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Re: Injuries: Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1861 » by djFan71 » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:52 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Oh man, bummer. Let's hope he plays. But obviously Stevens is usually very conservative with Rob so maybe he sits.

We sure could use him though to pair him up with Thompson when going against LA's tandem in the middle of Drummond/Harrell.

Not coach's call. Never has been. Stevens follows what the medical staff tells him.

Harrell backs up Drummond. They've never played together.

1) Ok well then the medical staff is usually very conservative with Rob

2) Yeah, no kidding. I know that harrell backs up Drummond. Where did I ever say otherwise? I said they are LA's "tandem in the middle" ... a player who plays "in the middle" means center, that's common knowledge. Teams play only 1 center at a time, which is also common knowledge. By tandem I meant that is their center combo...the 2 they rotate at center.

Just like when I said we could sure use Rob to pair him up with Thompson. I didn't mean play the 2 of them together. That would be a terrible idea. I meant that is our center duo, our rotation, so 1 plays at a time and they rotate.

Guess I'll have to make it painfully obvious what I mean in the future so people don't try to pick apart my posts, lol.

Or.... just don't get so defensive & offended when one of the nicest long term posters on the site mildly misinterprets your post.
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Re: Injuries: Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Not coach's call. Never has been. Stevens follows what the medical staff tells him.

Harrell backs up Drummond. They've never played together.

1) Ok well then the medical staff is usually very conservative with Rob

2) Yeah, no kidding. I know that harrell backs up Drummond. Where did I ever say otherwise? I said they are LA's "tandem in the middle" ... a player who plays "in the middle" means center, that's common knowledge. Teams play only 1 center at a time, which is also common knowledge. By tandem I meant that is their center combo...the 2 they rotate at center.

Just like when I said we could sure use Rob to pair him up with Thompson. I didn't mean play the 2 of them together. That would be a terrible idea. I meant that is our center duo, our rotation, so 1 plays at a time and they rotate.

Guess I'll have to make it painfully obvious what I mean in the future so people don't try to pick apart my posts, lol.

Or.... just don't get so defensive & offended when one of the nicest long term posters on the site mildly misinterprets your post.

Exactly. Relax. Mistakes can be made.

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Re: Injuries: Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1863 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:09 pm

Hal14 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Oh man, bummer. Let's hope he plays. But obviously Stevens is usually very conservative with Rob so maybe he sits.

We sure could use him though to pair him up with Thompson when going against LA's tandem in the middle of Drummond/Harrell.

Not coach's call. Never has been. Stevens follows what the medical staff tells him.

Harrell backs up Drummond. They've never played together.

1) Ok well then the medical staff is usually very conservative with Rob

2) Yeah, no kidding. I know that harrell backs up Drummond. Where did I ever say otherwise? I said they are LA's "tandem in the middle" ... a player who plays "in the middle" means center, that's common knowledge. Teams play only 1 center at a time, which is also common knowledge. By tandem I meant that is their center combo...the 2 they rotate at center.

Just like when I said we could sure use Rob to pair him up with Thompson. I didn't mean play the 2 of them together. That would be a terrible idea. I meant that is our center duo, our rotation, so 1 plays at a time and they rotate.

Guess I'll have to make it painfully obvious what I mean in the future so people don't try to pick apart my posts, lol.

1. It wouldn't be the first time a poster assumes it's Stevens' call to limit the players' minutes due to health issues. I thought it was worth clarifying.

2. My bad. I misinterpreted your post.

Do what you feel is right. Replies are a part of the deal on the forum, sadly. Even from people who feel the need to clarify stuff or with poor reading comprehension.
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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1864 » by exculpatory » Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:19 pm

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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1865 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:30 pm

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Post#1866 » by Parliament10 » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:21 pm

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Well, that sucks.

Who we got now?
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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1868 » by 31to6 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:12 pm

Someone check Romeo’s old tomb and see if Fournier is hanging out there?
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Post#1869 » by ParticleMan » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:14 pm

sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.
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Post#1870 » by cloverleaf » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:02 pm

ParticleMan wrote:sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.


Brad's long kept his starting centers' numbers in the mid 20s while also having them finish games. I want Rob playing with the starters and against their opponents' best bigs whenever he's out there.

Swelling in the upper calf, however, suggests Rob's congenital condition may be back: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17375-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome-paes

I actually had hoped he'd have surgery right after they drafted him. Maybe this summer.
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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1871 » by exculpatory » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:55 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.


Brad's long kept his starting centers' numbers in the mid 20s while also having them finish games. I want Rob playing with the starters and against their opponents' best bigs whenever he's out there.

Swelling in the upper calf, however, suggests Rob's congenital condition may be back: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17375-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome-paes

I actually had hoped he'd have surgery right after they drafted him. Maybe this summer.


Orthopedics is way way out of my expertise. But if there is entrapment of an artery, I do not understand why this was not surgically remedied during previous off seasons.

Also, is it well known that PAES is his dx?
I thought his problem was at the hip?
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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1872 » by JHTruth » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:11 pm

ParticleMan wrote:sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.


I'd wait. They are uber-cautious with Rob as

A) His history and

B) his importance to the team.

He's the team's third best player. They are not going to take any chances, especially when facing an undermanned Lakers squad.
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Post#1873 » by cloverleaf » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:31 pm

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ParticleMan wrote:sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.


Brad's long kept his starting centers' numbers in the mid 20s while also having them finish games. I want Rob playing with the starters and against their opponents' best bigs whenever he's out there.

Swelling in the upper calf, however, suggests Rob's congenital condition may be back: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17375-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome-paes

I actually had hoped he'd have surgery right after they drafted him. Maybe this summer.


Orthopedics is way way out of my expertise. But if there is entrapment of an artery, I do not understand why this was not surgically remedied during previous off seasons.

Also, is it well known that PAES is his dx?
I thought his problem was at the hip?


https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/07/10/robert-williams-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome
https://thefantasydoctors.com/nba-inj/a-closer-look-at-the-robert-williams-diagnosis-dr-morse/
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/29/celtics-robert-williams-encouraged-by-easing-of-knee-condition/
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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1874 » by Parliament10 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:00 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
Brad's long kept his starting centers' numbers in the mid 20s while also having them finish games. I want Rob playing with the starters and against their opponents' best bigs whenever he's out there.

Swelling in the upper calf, however, suggests Rob's congenital condition may be back: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17375-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome-paes

I actually had hoped he'd have surgery right after they drafted him. Maybe this summer.


Orthopedics is way way out of my expertise. But if there is entrapment of an artery, I do not understand why this was not surgically remedied during previous off seasons.

Also, is it well known that PAES is his dx?
I thought his problem was at the hip?


https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/07/10/robert-williams-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome
https://thefantasydoctors.com/nba-inj/a-closer-look-at-the-robert-williams-diagnosis-dr-morse/
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/29/celtics-robert-williams-encouraged-by-easing-of-knee-condition/

Yeah. PAES is R. Williams major problem.
They should just go ahead and have the surgery. It's not going to clear up, on its own.
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Re: Injuries: R. Wlliams (L.Knee); Fournier (Safety Protocol) 

Post#1875 » by exculpatory » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:26 pm

Any word on Fournier?
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Post#1876 » by cloverleaf » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:34 pm

exculpatory wrote:Any word on Fournier?


I just heard Danny on 98.5 yesterday morning say that Fournier was recovering from Covid, getting better every day, and he was talking with him every day.
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Post#1877 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:42 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.


Brad's long kept his starting centers' numbers in the mid 20s while also having them finish games. I want Rob playing with the starters and against their opponents' best bigs whenever he's out there.

Swelling in the upper calf, however, suggests Rob's congenital condition may be back: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17375-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome-paes

I actually had hoped he'd have surgery right after they drafted him. Maybe this summer.

Rob missed last night's game with knee soreness. Not calf injury.

He's fine. Last night was the first game he missed to injury in over 2 months.

Chill, people.
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Post#1878 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:48 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
Orthopedics is way way out of my expertise. But if there is entrapment of an artery, I do not understand why this was not surgically remedied during previous off seasons.

Also, is it well known that PAES is his dx?
I thought his problem was at the hip?


https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/07/10/robert-williams-popliteal-artery-entrapment-syndrome
https://thefantasydoctors.com/nba-inj/a-closer-look-at-the-robert-williams-diagnosis-dr-morse/
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/29/celtics-robert-williams-encouraged-by-easing-of-knee-condition/

Yeah. PAES is R. Williams major problem.
They should just go ahead and have the surgery. It's not going to clear up, on its own.

Huh? This dude shares 3 articles. 2 of them are from 3 years ago. The other one is from january 2019 and in that article it says "the congenital condition in the rookie center’s knees known as popliteal artery entrapment syndrome has receded."

Receded means it went away...like my hairline 10 years ago.

So the last article that actually says PAES is bothering Time Lord is from 3 years ago.

Let's all relax here..

He missed last night's game with knee soreness. That can mean anything. Maybe he bumped knees someone in practice on Wednesday and they just kept him out last night as a precaution. Teams are resting everyone right now who is even remotely injured or sick to increase the chances they have a healthy roster come playoff time..
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Post#1879 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:00 pm

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ParticleMan wrote:sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes. maybe it's better to start tristan just because it will keep rob's minutes down, though rob can finish. kornet can also contribute a few good minutes.


I'd wait. They are uber-cautious with Rob as

A) His history and

B) his importance to the team.

He's the team's third best player. They are not going to take any chances, especially when facing an undermanned Lakers squad.

Agreed.

I'd rather have him sit out a regular season game vs the depleted Lakers so healthy come playoff time. And with Rob, he's only 23, you've got to think long term with him too, beyond just this season. We want him healthy for the next 5 years. So don't push it.

With that being said, "sadly, it looks like we really got manage this guy's minutes" is a dumb take. He got hurt way more when he was playing low minutes. His minutes have gone up from 17 a game before trade deadline to 25 a game since the trade deadline. Yet last night was the first game he missed to injury in over 2 months.
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Post#1880 » by cloverleaf » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:01 pm

Hal14 wrote:

Huh? This dude shares 3 articles. 2 of them are from 3 years ago. The other one is from january 2019 and in that article it says "the congenital condition in the rookie center’s knees known as popliteal artery entrapment syndrome has receded."

Receded means it went away...like my hairline 10 years ago.

So the last article that actually says PAES is bothering Time Lord is from 3 years ago.

Let's all relax here..

He missed last night's game with knee soreness. That can mean anything. Maybe he bumped knees someone in practice on Wednesday and they just kept him out last night as a precaution. Teams are resting everyone right now who is even remotely injured or sick to increase the chances they have a healthy roster come playoff time..


You're getting kind of nasty for apparently not having read the context on this thread.

A) As posted above:

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That is exactly where this condition may present itself with inflammation,

B) Not all of the links I posted were from 3 years ago, but they were in response to the OP asking whether that reported diagnosis had ever been confirmed.

I think I know who ought to relax here.

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