Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[Captain_Caveman]

I would LOVE to add Lonzo at the cost of a FRP. LOVE.

Seeing a second unit of Lonzo-Javonte-Jaylen-Semi-Timelord would be fun AF.

Would rather just give the minutes to Pritchard

Yup. I want to love Lonzo, but he sucks at everything. Bring him in on an Evan Turner type of deal in a couple of years, maybe.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I would LOVE to add Lonzo at the cost of a FRP. LOVE.

Seeing a second unit of Lonzo-Javonte-Jaylen-Semi-Timelord would be fun AF.

Would rather just give the minutes to Pritchard

Play him over Javonte then

[Captain_Caveman]

I would LOVE to add Lonzo at the cost of a FRP. LOVE.

Seeing a second unit of Lonzo-Javonte-Jaylen-Semi-Timelord would be fun AF.

Would rather just give the minutes to Pritchard

Play him over Javonte then

Already have Langford for that, and not worth a FRP regardless.

Dude is getting floated for Oubre right now, and Oubre makes more money and is having one of the worst seasons ever.

[Ernest]

And if we do want to bring in another guard the correct answer (as it has always been) is of course Rondo. If any of our guards go down, we should offer the Hawks whomever we feel is the lesser of Nesmith and Romeo plus a late 1st and one of the end of the bench guys (Carson or Waters.) That's a decent trade for them

That seems like a massive overpay for a guy who switches teams in free agency every year or two.

I think he never got a huge pay day, and was probably heavily influenced by seeing KG get paid so much. His contract is for this year and an option for next at 9 mil right? I doubt anyone would pay more than that so he likely takes it. After that he'd be pretty old so you could probably keep him for low money. A trade for him now could likely keep him in Boston for as long as he wants to play. He was the 3rd best Laker in the finals so he can still play.

Again, I'm not really advocating it as I think Teague is fine as a b ack up point guard and we have Smart and Kemba. Can never count on a rookie but PP looks solid in a 4th guard role too. But for the 9 mil Rondo seems like a bargin if you want to win a title. Obviously guard is the last spot we need help with, but if you could get Rondo for not that much and it didn't effect any other moves, why not?

For the price- obviously who knows. But Nesmith or Romeo might not be that much. Danny should have a good idea what the chances are they become good. Even if they do become good, could we then keep them?It's not like we have them forever. Any other change we add like a late pick or Carson or Waters is really such a low chance of coming back to haunt us it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, seasons come down to a few key moments in playoff games and stats don't matter then. You need guys who can will you to a win and Rondo can.

[aporel18]

Vucevic into the TPE would be great. He is a baller, and he's 30 and under contract for 2 and a half seasons.

But the most I'd send for Vucevic would be TT, Grant and Javonte plus 2021 and 2023 first round picks, plus the 2 seconds Ainge got for #30 last draft. If you send more than that, it might end being a big overpay. If Orlando wants more, good luck, next option.

Vucevic/Tatum/Brown/Smart/Kemba
Theis/Semi/Nesmith/Romeo/Pritchard
Timelord/.../.../Edwards/Teague

You would then need two vet min guys (avoiding to get into tax territory if their cap impact is prorrated and doesn't count the whole 1.6M each) at the 2/3/4 to send Nesmith and Romeo to the third stringer squad. Maybe somebody off the waiver wire, or if you find nothing, gamble on guys like Ilyasova or Hollis-Jefferson as end-of-bench players to bring situational minutes. If you got better help, that would be a legit contender this year.

[Celts17Pride]

I would be curious to know if Washington who are 3-10 and are looking to break things up if Ainge would still be interested in Bertans. Bertans is locked up for the next 5 years at a reasonable $15 per year. Does that make Bertans more or less attractive to Ainge given where the Celtics salary is the next 3-5 years? Don’t know. Anyways it’s just 100% speculation at this point. Ainge was hot for Bertans last year.

[Ernest]

Just playing with some ideas, but

Kemba, Shamet and a pick (Bos) and 1 pick (Pelicans) to Philly
Simmons, Joe Harris to Boston
Timelord, Edwards, Ball and JJ Reddick to Brooklyn
Dinwiddie to Pelicans

Smart/Pritchard/Teague
Harris/Green/Romeo
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Theis/GrantW
Simmons/Thompson/Tacko

I never got why everyone loves Simmons so much. Every time we play against him he doesn't seem to play well. Until last time. I get it now. Yeah if we could turn Kemba and change into Simmons that would be a great move. And it doesn't seem that out there of an idea. If Philly thinks they are not winning a title with Embiid and Simmons, they obviously keep Embiid. Then they need a vet win now guard to replace Simmons. that adds up.

Would rather just give the minutes to Pritchard

Play him over Javonte then

Already have Langford for that, and not worth a FRP regardless.

Dude is getting floated for Oubre right now, and Oubre makes more money and is having one of the worst seasons ever.

Haven't kept up with Oubre, what has gone wrong? He seemed like he was gonna be good. Maybe not fill up a stat sheet good but winning games good.

[FlatearthZorro]

Just playing with some ideas, but

Kemba, Shamet and a pick (Bos) and 1 pick (Pelicans) to Philly
Simmons, Joe Harris to Boston
Timelord, Edwards, Ball and JJ Reddick to Brooklyn
Dinwiddie to Pelicans

Smart/Pritchard/Teague
Harris/Green/Romeo
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Theis/GrantW
Simmons/Thompson/Tacko

I never got why everyone loves Simmons so much. Every time we play against him he doesn't seem to play well. Until last time. I get it now. Yeah if we could turn Kemba and change into Simmons that would be a great move. And it doesn't seem that out there of an idea. If Philly thinks they are not winning a title with Embiid and Simmons, they obviously keep Embiid. Then they need a vet win now guard to replace Simmons. that adds up.

Play him over Javonte then

Already have Langford for that, and not worth a FRP regardless.

Dude is getting floated for Oubre right now, and Oubre makes more money and is having one of the worst seasons ever.

Haven't kept up with Oubre, what has gone wrong? He seemed like he was gonna be good. Maybe not fill up a stat sheet good but winning games good.

Oubre somehow lost his 3 pt shot. He can't hit a shot to save his life. Weird part is that it was decent when he was with the Suns.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Lonzo Ball? Oh man, that dude stinks. For a guy who was thought of as being a transcendent playmaker, his assist totals have been very disappointing. I don’t see the need for him. At all.

[Darth Celtic]

Go after Zach Lavine! Let bull rebuild....

We don't want to get worse

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Hayward was worst ... we need someone to replace him and I find Zach Lavine is a good choice! And we won’t get worse.

Ever watch him play? Zach is about zach. Win or lose he is getting his. Sometimes good players just play on bad teams. This isn't the case. Zach won't win because he makes his team worse everyday he goes.

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[Captain_Caveman]

Haven't kept up with Oubre, what has gone wrong? He seemed like he was gonna be good. Maybe not fill up a stat sheet good but winning games good.

Absolute **** in every possible way. Wouldn't take him on a vet minimum, but he looks like a basketball player, so he might squeeze a few more years out before heading to China. Dude has three total assists to Curry this season, while starting in the same backcourt. I could do the same just falling down and letting the ball roll out of my hands while curling into the fetal position.

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[Darth Celtic]

Would rather just give the minutes to Pritchard

Play him over Javonte then

Already have Langford for that, and not worth a FRP regardless.

Dude is getting floated for Oubre right now, and Oubre makes more money and is having one of the worst seasons ever.

The fact so many people want lonzo and would give up assets for him makes me really wonder about the collective knowledge around here

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[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Haven't kept up with Oubre, what has gone wrong? He seemed like he was gonna be good. Maybe not fill up a stat sheet good but winning games good.

Absolute **** in every possible way. Wouldn't take him on a vet minimum, but he looks like a basketball player, so he might squeeze a few more years out before heading to China. Dude has three total assists to Curry this season, while starting in the same backcourt. I could so the same just falling down and letting the ball roll out of my hands while curling into the fetal position.

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The fact that they even counted those as assists blows my mind. Lol

[Captain_Caveman]

Oubre somehow lost his 3 pt shot. He can't hit a shot to save his life. Weird part is that it was decent when he was with the Suns.

He is hands down one of the worst players I have ever seen that was not an end-of-bench, minimum salary guy. I once referred to a washed up David Lee as "asswater", but Oubre is is 10 levels below that.

[bucknersrevenge]

We don't want to get worse

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Hayward was worst ... we need someone to replace him and I find Zach Lavine is a good choice! And we won’t get worse.

Ever watch him play? Zach is about zach. Win or lose he is getting his. Sometimes good players just play on bad teams. This isn't the case. Zach won't win because he makes his team worse everyday he goes.

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I don't know a ton about LaVine and doubt he's even on the market anyway. Just wondering how did LaVine get this rep that he only cares about himself? Was it something he said? Or did? Yes LaVine's teams haven't won much but they weren't winning much before he got there either. And Minny hasn't won since he left. Consider that a number of Minny players have been labeled as either selfish or not winning players or both (KG, KAT, Jimmy, LaVine, Wiggins) Is it possible that maybe Chicago and especially Minnesota are just poorly run organizations who don't set their teams up to win so they don't. AD was a losing player before last year. Not picking a fight with you just wondering, how do we know the difference?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Oubre somehow lost his 3 pt shot. He can't hit a shot to save his life. Weird part is that it was decent when he was with the Suns.

He is hands down one of the worst players I have ever seen that was not an end-of-bench, minimum salary guy. I once referred to a washed up David Lee as "asswater", but Oubre is is 10 levels below that.

I’m still trying to digest the crow from my take on David Lee. He was actually worse than what you made him out to be, which is saying a whole lot because you didn’t pull any punches. I still have PTSD from watching his signature move as a Celtic - 360 spin into the lane and getting nothing but backboard. Tough to do at his size, 3-4 feet away from the hoop.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Hayward was worst ... we need someone to replace him and I find Zach Lavine is a good choice! And we won’t get worse.

Ever watch him play? Zach is about zach. Win or lose he is getting his. Sometimes good players just play on bad teams. This isn't the case. Zach won't win because he makes his team worse everyday he goes.

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I don't know a ton about LaVine and doubt he's even on the market anyway. Just wondering how did LaVine get this rep that he only cares about himself? Was it something he said? Or did? Yes LaVine's teams haven't won much but they weren't winning much before he got there either. And Minny hasn't won since he left. Consider that a number of Minny players have been labeled as either selfish or not winning players or both (KG, KAT, Jimmy, LaVine, Wiggins) Is it possible that maybe Chicago and especially Minnesota are just poorly run organizations who don't set their teams up to win so they don't. AD was a losing player before last year. Not picking a fight with you just wondering, how do we know the difference?

Lavine led the revolt against Jim Boylen. Granted - Boylen is a bad coach, but organizing his teammates to not show up for practice because Boylen was working them too hard, and then crying to the players’ union about it?? I dunno. Doesn’t seem like a guy who I’d want on my team.

[Ernest]

I guess it's been a while. Last time I really remember him was when he was fighting Kelly O.

[Captain_Caveman]

Oubre somehow lost his 3 pt shot. He can't hit a shot to save his life. Weird part is that it was decent when he was with the Suns.

He is hands down one of the worst players I have ever seen that was not an end-of-bench, minimum salary guy. I once referred to a washed up David Lee as "asswater", but Oubre is is 10 levels below that.

I’m still trying to digest the crow from my take on David Lee. He was actually worse than what you made him out to be, which is saying a whole lot because you didn’t pull any punches. I still have PTSD from watching his signature move as a Celtic - 360 spin into the lane and getting nothing but backboard. Tough to do at his size, 3-4 feet away from the hoop.

LOL. As to Oubre, I would literally rather eat a bowl of rocks and broken glass mixed with my own poo than ever see him in a Celtics uniform. And yet the Pels might deal Lonzo for him.

[2Mas]

Lonzo Ball? Oh man, that dude stinks. For a guy who was thought of as being a transcendent playmaker, his assist totals have been very disappointing. I don’t see the need for him. At all.

He can't dribble. He can't shoot. He's a great ball mover & a great IQ guy, but he just lacks real skill. He makes amazing passes but he doesn't initiate offense so what does he do? Rotate the ball on a swing? Cool.


Look i like Lonzo, but i don't want him for anything of real significance, nor do i wanna pay him next year unless it's for 10-12m.