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Post#1861 » by Wes-J » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:30 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:This isn't rocket science,

Ainge has two options in my opinion for these next 7 days.

1. Try to add a big piece with multiple years left on their contract or someone who is going to be a RFA that you know you will pay going forward. You know the names (Barnes, Vucevic, Grant, Barnes etc.)

2. If you can't do that then sell off what you can (Kemba, TT, Teague, Theis, Ojeleye, Green etc.) and play the young guys big minutes (Langford, Nesmith, G Williams, R Williams, Pritchard, Edwards etc.) Build their value, decide your keepers and get a Top 10 draft pick to boot.

This is not hard.


Considering the market options not really a fan of option #1.

I'll elect for #2 because we need to get rid of this trash and force Brad's hand before I lose my mind.

Does Ainge have enough balls to be a Seller?


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Post#1862 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:32 pm

We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS
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Post#1863 » by Wes-J » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:32 pm

Let's go get Yam Madar the Israeli Steph Curry.
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Post#1864 » by JHTruth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:34 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS


We don't need Bamba with Rob. . Gordon might be decent in the right situation.
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Post#1865 » by BigTrade92 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:34 pm

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The fanbase will do no such thing, just a few posters here. The fanbase SHOULD be rioting at the selfish offensive basketball we have been witnessing plus the lack of effort on defense. But Tatum and Brown are stars, and we can't (a) blame them for anything, or (b) trade either one.

Since Kemba is basically unmoveable, that translates into an attempt by Ainge to perfume the pig, and who cares about that, really?

The fanbase is already starting to riot online. Unfortunately here's no other way to do it in the age of COVID. Media and now our former players are already beginning to call out the team and ownership. Once the fans get back in the building, making their voices heard is a certainty, especially if this putrid play continues.

The Celtics fanbases isn't stupid. Obviously they're playing bad ball. They also have G-Leaguers and guys who shouldn't even be in the league taking up 2/3 of the roster. That doesn't and hasn't gone unnoticed.

I said in the offseason this was the beginning of the end for Ainge if this team didn't perform. If next season is anything like this, the media won't be protecting Ainge any longer. They won't have a choice. Ainge's job is on the hot seat whether Wyc wants to acknowledge it or not.


LOL get real man. Ainge is fine. He's delivered two All-Star wings under the age of 25. 3 of 4 ECF. One of the most promising young bigs in the League with the 27th pick. Besides, its not like this is the final draft of the rebuild. Have plenty more moves

These are the exact type of excuses that have let Ainge stay in charge for 18 years without consequence. :nonono:

We're well aware he drafted Tatum and Brown 4 and 5 years ago. The problem is he hasn't done jack sh*t since then.

The team is severely underperforming and are another bad season away from having both Jays being to plan their exit route out of Boston....
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Post#1866 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:35 pm

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The fanbase will do no such thing, just a few posters here. The fanbase SHOULD be rioting at the selfish offensive basketball we have been witnessing plus the lack of effort on defense. But Tatum and Brown are stars, and we can't (a) blame them for anything, or (b) trade either one.

Since Kemba is basically unmoveable, that translates into an attempt by Ainge to perfume the pig, and who cares about that, really?

The fanbase is already starting to riot online. Unfortunately here's no other way to do it in the age of COVID. Media and now our former players are already beginning to call out the team and ownership. Once the fans get back in the building, making their voices heard is a certainty, especially if this putrid play continues.

The Celtics fanbases isn't stupid. Obviously they're playing bad ball. They also have G-Leaguers and guys who shouldn't even be in the league taking up 2/3 of the roster. That doesn't and hasn't gone unnoticed.

I said in the offseason this was the beginning of the end for Ainge if this team didn't perform. If next season is anything like this, the media won't be protecting Ainge any longer. They won't have a choice. Ainge's job is on the hot seat whether Wyc wants to acknowledge it or not.


LOL get real man. Ainge is fine. He's delivered two All-Star wings under the age of 25. 3 of 4 ECF. One of the most promising young bigs in the League with the 27th pick. Besides, its not like this is the final draft of the rebuild. Have plenty more moves


Take off the emerald glasses my friend. How much bad basketball can you stand? The most cringeworthy performance I've witnessed in my life was the Boston Ballet trying to perform the nutcracker with dancers who couldn't stand on their toes. But last night's performance in Cleveland was a close second, particularly the first half and the last 2-3 minutes.
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Post#1867 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:35 pm

JHTruth wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS


We don't need Bamba with Rob. . Gordon might be decent in the right situation.


Bamba is a trade chip - and we had Rozier develop behind Smart and Kyrie, I don’t see it as a problem.
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Post#1868 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:36 pm

JHTruth wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS


We don't need Bamba with Rob. . Gordon might be decent in the right situation.

Celtics don’t need Bamba because they have Mr. 25 minutes a night RW3. Good one!
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Post#1869 » by theman » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:43 pm

JHTruth wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS


We don't need Bamba with Rob. . Gordon might be decent in the right situation.


I would disagree. The two of them having on team rivalry and pushing each other to be better could be just what both need.
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Post#1870 » by theman » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:46 pm

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JHTruth wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:The fanbase is already starting to riot online. Unfortunately here's no other way to do it in the age of COVID. Media and now our former players are already beginning to call out the team and ownership. Once the fans get back in the building, making their voices heard is a certainty, especially if this putrid play continues.

The Celtics fanbases isn't stupid. Obviously they're playing bad ball. They also have G-Leaguers and guys who shouldn't even be in the league taking up 2/3 of the roster. That doesn't and hasn't gone unnoticed.

I said in the offseason this was the beginning of the end for Ainge if this team didn't perform. If next season is anything like this, the media won't be protecting Ainge any longer. They won't have a choice. Ainge's job is on the hot seat whether Wyc wants to acknowledge it or not.


LOL get real man. Ainge is fine. He's delivered two All-Star wings under the age of 25. 3 of 4 ECF. One of the most promising young bigs in the League with the 27th pick. Besides, its not like this is the final draft of the rebuild. Have plenty more moves

These are the exact type of excuses that have let Ainge stay in charge for 18 years without consequence. :nonono:

We're well aware he drafted Tatum and Brown 4 and 5 years ago. The problem is he hasn't done jack sh*t since then.

The team is severely underperforming and are another bad season away from having both Jays being to plan their exit route out of Boston....


You are the type of person who would have had a fit if Danny stood pat and said Rozier would be the replacement when Kyrie left. Instead he traded Rozier for Kemba and the team is worse off than had he done nothing. Some times no move is the right move.
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Post#1871 » by gocelts » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:47 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:The fanbase is already starting to riot online. Unfortunately here's no other way to do it in the age of COVID. Media and now our former players are already beginning to call out the team and ownership. Once the fans get back in the building, making their voices heard is a certainty, especially if this putrid play continues.

The Celtics fanbases isn't stupid. Obviously they're playing bad ball. They also have G-Leaguers and guys who shouldn't even be in the league taking up 2/3 of the roster. That doesn't and hasn't gone unnoticed.

I said in the offseason this was the beginning of the end for Ainge if this team didn't perform. If next season is anything like this, the media won't be protecting Ainge any longer. They won't have a choice. Ainge's job is on the hot seat whether Wyc wants to acknowledge it or not.


LOL get real man. Ainge is fine. He's delivered two All-Star wings under the age of 25. 3 of 4 ECF. One of the most promising young bigs in the League with the 27th pick. Besides, its not like this is the final draft of the rebuild. Have plenty more moves


Take off the emerald glasses my friend. How much bad basketball can you stand? The most cringeworthy performance I've witnessed in my life was the Boston Ballet trying to perform the nutcracker with dancers who couldn't stand on their toes. But last night's performance in Cleveland was a close second, particularly the first half and the last 2-3 minutes.


I watched Larry and McHale when I was kid and was then HOSTAGE to the Pitino and Wallace era.....Kemba is bad, but hes not Vin Baker....half a season of 500 ball during a pandemic is literally 5% compared to the decade of crap before Ainge.

Ainge has to fix the roster. He KNOWS he has to fix the roster and he has assets to do it. Lets not fire the guy for one 500 ball season. I do agree he should do something...I mean I find it hard to believe there is not a single move out there that would help the team and not hurt us long term. Heck, trade Edwards and Tacko for 2nd...I don't care.
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Post#1872 » by Wes-J » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:49 pm

The only bold trade is see is for Vucevic.

And he would dramatically help us.
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Post#1873 » by BigTrade92 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:49 pm

theman wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
LOL get real man. Ainge is fine. He's delivered two All-Star wings under the age of 25. 3 of 4 ECF. One of the most promising young bigs in the League with the 27th pick. Besides, its not like this is the final draft of the rebuild. Have plenty more moves

These are the exact type of excuses that have let Ainge stay in charge for 18 years without consequence. :nonono:

We're well aware he drafted Tatum and Brown 4 and 5 years ago. The problem is he hasn't done jack sh*t since then.

The team is severely underperforming and are another bad season away from having both Jays being to plan their exit route out of Boston....


You are the type of person who would have had a fit if Danny stood pat and said Rozier would be the replacement when Kyrie left. Instead he traded Rozier for Kemba and the team is worse off than had he done nothing. Some times no move is the right move.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I said, but I wanted Kyrie, Rozier and Morris all traded during that dumpster fire season when the writing was clearly on the wall that everyone could see except for Danny boy...

Guarantee the team would be in much better shape now with the assets recouped from dumping those guys.

In terms of making "no move", I'm not sure how that applies then or now. Both times moves needed to be made. The clock is ticking for this go-around.
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Post#1874 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:50 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS


All three of those guys are questionable, but I'd be open to a multi-player gamble like that.

Send Thompson and a cheap player out while we're at it, and we could end up with a Kemba-sized TPE.

I'd also consider taking Fournier in lieu of Gordon; obviously, the picks would flow differently in that case.
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Post#1876 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:53 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:We need Orlando to do something stupid and overpay for Kemba..

Kemba to ORL
Fournier to NOP
Ball, Gordon, Bamba to BOS


All three of those guys are questionable, but I'd be open to a multi-player gamble like that.

Send Thompson and a cheap player out while we're at it, and we could end up with a Kemba-sized TPE.

I'd also consider taking Fournier in lieu of Gordon; obviously, the picks would flow differently in that case.


You get size, length, passing, rebounding, a little playmaking and scoring by guys who slot into the second tier of the offense behind Brown and Tatum..
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Post#1877 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:55 pm

With empty or near empty arenas (no gate, no concessions, no buzz), this year would be the year to sell players and sit stars.
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Post#1878 » by Wes-J » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:58 pm

Mulling over my trade deadline thread meal. Has to be drive thru unfortunately, I'm leaving.

When I get back I expect Grant, Carsen, Semi, Teague, and Javonte to be moved for Patty Mills and Rudy Gay.
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Post#1879 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:58 pm

I just watched the Celtics-Raptors series highlights from the bubble again last year. **** staggering how much those teams have fallen off man :( I miss that series and last year's team
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Post#1880 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:59 pm

Trade for Josh Jackson using the smaller TPE. That would be the only move I’d be excited about. Lol

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