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Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season)

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1861 » by The Corey's » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:00 pm

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What even is the supermax? How much can he sign for before he can't be traded this year?

Could he sign for all but 10 mil and it's still a supermax? 5 mil? 75% of his eligibility?

At what point is he ineligible?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1862 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:04 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Hmmm...

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Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.



YEah, I do not think it is possible to extend and trade. (If Supermax I am pretty sure yoou cant, if less than supermax maybe??)

is the Bark Bark BArk in reference to another fake rumor about Ant wanting out of Minny and them wanting Brown?


Ahh, I was wondering what the Bark - Bark meant? Wolves = Canines

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1863 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:10 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Hmmm...

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What even is the supermax? How much can he sign for before he can't be traded this year?

Could he sign for all but 10 mil and it's still a supermax? 5 mil? 75% of his eligibility?

At what point is he ineligible?

My guess is a dollar more than the standard veteran extension, which starts at $36,867,857 (120% of his salary for final year of current contract) in 2024-25, and that's considered a "supermax" since it's already a designated player veteran extension, which can be up to 35% of salary cap for the first year.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1864 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:10 pm

But could this be true?


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This situation assumes Brown is willing to take less than the supermax to leave Boston. Not ridiculously far fetched, and Leroy (@PFTCommenter) has been spot on in the past.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1865 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:15 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:But could this be true?


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This situation assumes Brown is willing to take less than the supermax to leave Boston. Not ridiculously far fetched, and Leroy (@PFTCommenter) has been spot on in the past.

LOL JB is not taking that much of a paycut.
A player eligible for an extension can sign one in conjunction with a trade, but he would be limited to three overall years and a starting salary worth 105% of the final-year salary on his previous deal. Subsequent annual raises are limited to 5% as well.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1866 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:16 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.



YEah, I do not think it is possible to extend and trade. (If Supermax I am pretty sure yoou cant, if less than supermax maybe??)

is the Bark Bark BArk in reference to another fake rumor about Ant wanting out of Minny and them wanting Brown?


Ahh, I was wondering what the Bark - Bark meant? Wolves = Canines

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Maybe a trade with a backroom agreement to extend for the max once traded?

So a Trade & Sign?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1867 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:17 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:But could this be true?


AV Swaps
@avswaps

This situation assumes Brown is willing to take less than the supermax to leave Boston. Not ridiculously far fetched, and Leroy (@PFTCommenter) has been spot on in the past.

LOL JB is not taking that much of a paycut.
A player eligible for an extension can sign one in conjunction with a trade, but he would be limited to three overall years and a starting salary worth 105% of the final-year salary on his previous deal. Subsequent annual raises are limited to 5% as well.



Probs not, But Jaylen is a weird guy,.

In 3 years the cap will be jumped up a fair bit, so perhaps he feels a supermax in 3 years exceeds a supermax today?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1868 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:17 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:But could this be true?


AV Swaps
@avswaps

This situation assumes Brown is willing to take less than the supermax to leave Boston. Not ridiculously far fetched, and Leroy (@PFTCommenter) has been spot on in the past.

LOL JB is not taking that much of a paycut.
A player eligible for an extension can sign one in conjunction with a trade, but he would be limited to three overall years and a starting salary worth 105% of the final-year salary on his previous deal. Subsequent annual raises are limited to 5% as well.


Yeah, that would be sort of financial Hari-kari...
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1869 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:18 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:But could this be true?


AV Swaps
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This situation assumes Brown is willing to take less than the supermax to leave Boston. Not ridiculously far fetched, and Leroy (@PFTCommenter) has been spot on in the past.


I mean it’s highly improbably Brown takes a paycut to leave Boston.

If he does, then he truly does hate this place with a passion.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1870 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:19 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:But could this be true?


AV Swaps
@avswaps

This situation assumes Brown is willing to take less than the supermax to leave Boston. Not ridiculously far fetched, and Leroy (@PFTCommenter) has been spot on in the past.

LOL JB is not taking that much of a paycut.
A player eligible for an extension can sign one in conjunction with a trade, but he would be limited to three overall years and a starting salary worth 105% of the final-year salary on his previous deal. Subsequent annual raises are limited to 5% as well.



Probs not, But Jaylen is a weird guy,.

In 3 years the cap will be jumped up a fair bit, so perhaps he feels a supermax in 3 years exceeds a supermax today?

He can't get a supermax elsewhere.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1871 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:22 pm

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1872 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:23 pm

He doesn't have a no trade. It's not his decision whether or not to leave Boston until a year from now.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1873 » by Green89 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:23 pm

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1874 » by The Corey's » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:26 pm

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.
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Post#1875 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:26 pm

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what is his extend and trade $ compared to if he was traded then signed as a free agent next offseason?

also, is he a restricted free agent if traded now or unrestricted? If Unrestricted he WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SIGN with a team that has not capspace right?

so if traded now to a team like say the wolves....he would not be able to sign there next offseason as they have no capspace to offer him a contract?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1876 » by RickyDizzle » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm

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I like Indiana with 26, 29, and 32.

Pritchard and 35 for 29 and 32?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1877 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

Depends on who the player is available at #28. That's one reason why these type of trades don't happen until draft night.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1878 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:28 pm

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.


Unless they need a 1st Round Pick for a trade... say to the Wolves?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1879 » by RickyDizzle » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:29 pm

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what is his extend and trade $ compared to if he was traded then signed as a free agent next offseason?

also, is he a restricted free agent if traded now or unrestricted? If Unrestricted he WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SIGN with a team that has not capspace right?

so if traded now to a team like say the wolves....he would not be able to sign there next offseason as they have no capspace to offer him a contract?


Well his bird rights would go with him they could extend him, just not supermax.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1880 » by Hal14 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:31 pm

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This would actually make a ton of sense.

-Utah has picks 9 and 16 in the 1st round. Why the hell would they also need 28?
-Ainge drafted Pritchard
-Utah is thin in the back court. They barely have any guards and 1 of the only guards they do have (Sexton) is in trade rumors right now
-Moving up from 35 to 28 (7 spots) seems pretty fair in terms of the value Pritchard has
-It benefits Boston. Pritchard barely played last season. We don't need him. We could have Davison or Madar (or get some other guy like Patty Mills) to fill the role Pritchard had last season. Meanwhile, moving up from 35 to 28, that could actually make a pretty big difference in terms of landing a really good, quality player who could actually help this team in the long term (and possibly in the short term)
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