Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

Floody100 · Post #1881 » by **Floody100** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:46 pm

Is the thought of watching Smart & Holiday defend together potentially better than sex ?

Post #1882 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:47 pm

leper-con wrote:I think the fact that these deals are so out in the open means they have fallen through.

Its just Ainge and Haywards agent leaking stuff to signal that its last call time on Hayward.

chrisab123 · Post #1883 » by **chrisab123** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:52 pm

ddb wrote:Turner, Jrue, Dipo. These are all guys on the block. I'm not including Westbrook or CP3 because I don't believe Boston has any interest in those guys. I think there's a lot of posturing going on right now from all angles. Think back on Danny Ainge deals. A lot of times he ends up acquiring a player that nobody in the media was talking about. So the real question is who is Danny really after?

Well, that's somewhat true. Usually, it's guys on the block who the Celtics aren't linked to. Kyrie's speculation only started when Griffin dropped their name. If I remember correctly up until that point it was centered around Phoenix beforehand.

31to6 · Post #1884 » by **31to6** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:59 pm

Disinformation wrote:
31to6 wrote:Three firsts for Okongwu, Hayward for a quality bag of chips and we’re golden.

What flavor chips?

Salty!

(And since were talking quality chips that means sea salt, ****!)

31to6 · Post #1885 » by **31to6** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Floody100 wrote:Is the thought of watching Smart & Holiday defend together potentially better than sex ?

No, but put Okongwu into our defense and I might skip my next session with the wife.

Curmudgeon · Post #1886 » by **Curmudgeon** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Hayward for Holiday doesn't work if Hayward exercises his 15% trade kicker, which he will not waive. Why should he? So the Pelicans need to include something else, e.g. Redick.

vtime · Post #1887 » by **vtime** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Hayward and Smart for Westbrook and Tucker?

Floody100 · Post #1888 » by **Floody100** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:03 pm

vtime wrote:Hayward and Smart for Westbrook and Tucker?

Post #1889 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:04 pm

vtime wrote:Hayward and Smart for Westbrook and Tucker?

Lol no chance. We good on Westbrook; he’s your problem.

Post #1890 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:05 pm

vtime wrote:Hayward and Smart for Westbrook and Tucker?

I just got chills and I think my life expectancy has now dropped at the mere mention of this hypothetical.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1891 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:13 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:You guys realize Jrue has a year left on his contract just like Hayward right?

If you think replacing Hayward for Jrue on top of giving all of our picks gets us closer to a title next year you are crazy.

I'll fly to Boston to ask for Danny resignation if we are seriously making that trade.

Even Hayward straight for Jrue makes us worse. How the hell are we going to fill up the 2-3-4 positions when the Jays are not playing?

Hayward is not getting sent to New Orleans.

celticfan42487 · Post #1892 » by **celticfan42487** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:20 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Nope. He's an average starting C that people think shoots like KAT and defends like AD. Trade scenarios for the past 3-4 years with this guy and he's like OK.

Many analyst also don't believe he's a good defender either as he plays drop coverage which is fine in the regular season by all last playoffs Centers that do that got eaten alive. Like Embiid and Gobert.

I wouldn't be surprised if Turner contributes less than Smart to a team and Smart is a 6th man on a championship team kind of player.

Then you factor in you can get Centers in the open market for 1/100th of their value and it's a terrible investment from an asset point of view.

Again though Hayward is an asset that has an expiration date that's pretty clear right now, so it's better than nothing.

I would genuinely rather let Hayward go for nothing than trade him for Jrue Holiday and Myles Turner. Can they trade Hayward for a legitimate game-changing kind of player instead? If not, I don't really get enamored with average starting point guards on the downside, and average starting centers who haven't improved much in 3-4 years, especially when these players aren't cheap. I've been reading these trade threads for the last three years with Hayward and I don't think there have been any trades for gamechanging players, it's always Steven Adams or Clint Capela or Myles Turner or Lonzo Ball or some other OK player.

I do think if we hold onto Hayward, for a surprise team looking to generate cap space for the 2021 free agent class we could probably net a low first rounder for him at the deadline.

In my mind that's essentially what I'm comparing it too.

I wouldn't be upset if Ainge traded a lottery pick and Hayward for Jrue mind you. But yeah it's not exciting. It feels like the best shot at winning is to just draft the player in the lottery and hope you stuck gold for your young guys.

captain green · Post #1893 » by **captain green** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:23 pm

I'm liking the trade deadline deal of Hayward too instead of now wait get more value

MaxwellSmart · Post #1894 » by **MaxwellSmart** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:23 pm

Everyone saying we can't trade Kemba cause it would look bad, But his KNEE might be the reason.

Doubt Hayward would wanna go anywhere but Indiana.

Ben-N1ce · Post #1895 » by **Ben-N1ce** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:29 pm

Nothing is going to happen. Always smoke with Ainge then nothing.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1896 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:31 pm

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Dogen · Post #1897 » by **Dogen** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:31 pm

The Comedian wrote:Trade for Holiday and Redick, bring Baynes back.

Kemba/Smart
Holiday/Redick
Jaylen/Romeo
Tatum/Grant
Baynes/Theis/RW3

yes please :clap:

Green89 · Post #1898 » by **Green89** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:31 pm

MaxwellSmart wrote:Everyone saying we can't trade Kemba cause it would look bad, But his KNEE might be the reason.

Doubt Hayward would wanna go anywhere but Indiana.

Knee or not, after what happened with IT and then if Hayward and Kemba go, we won't get any free agent bites for a decade or more.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1899 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:41 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:Nothing is going to happen. Always smoke with Ainge then nothing.

There's been a bunch that have fizzled out, but we are still leading the league in bombshell trades under his tenure, don't you think?

Captain_Caveman · Post #1900 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:41 pm

Green89 wrote:
MaxwellSmart wrote:Everyone saying we can't trade Kemba cause it would look bad, But his KNEE might be the reason.

Doubt Hayward would wanna go anywhere but Indiana.

Knee or not, after what happened with IT and then if Hayward and Kemba go, we won't get any free agent bites for a decade or more.

Good thing we won't have cap room ever again.