Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[Larry_Russell]

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what is his extend and trade $ compared to if he was traded then signed as a free agent next offseason?

also, is he a restricted free agent if traded now or unrestricted? If Unrestricted he WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SIGN with a team that has not capspace right?

so if traded now to a team like say the wolves....he would not be able to sign there next offseason as they have no capspace to offer him a contract?

Well his bird rights would go with him they could extend him, just not supermax.

So then he wouldnt wait till the end of the year to get more money, as that would make him a UFA.

So if he is traded to a team "over the cap" he should extend and trade or else he will only be able to get the most money from a team under the cap.

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I like Indiana with 26, 29, and 32.

Pritchard and 35 for 29 and 32?

Eh, idk. We don't need 2 rookies. It'll be hard enough for 1 rookie to try and earn a role on such a deep/talented team and for us to try and develop him.

I'd rather do the deal with Utah and move up an extra spot to 28.

Plus, Indiana has no need for Pritchard with how deep they are in the back court. Utah is much thinner in the back court (plus Sexton is in trade rumors) and Ainge drafted Pritchard.

The Utah deal makes a ton of sense to me.

[Marvel]

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

Yeah if Brad wants to move up MOVE UP. 28th pick wtf gonna do with that??

[RickyDizzle]

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This would actually make a ton of sense.

-Utah has picks 9 and 16 in the 1st round. Why the hell would they also need 28?
-Ainge drafted Pritchard
-Utah is thin in the back court. They barely have any guards and 1 of the only guards they do have (Sexton) is in trade rumors right now
-Moving up from 35 to 28 (7 spots) seems pretty fair in terms of the value Pritchard has
-It benefits Boston. Pritchard barely played last season. We don't need him. We could have Davison or Madar (or get some other guy like Patty Mills) to fill the role Pritchard had last season. Meanwhile, moving up from 35 to 28, that could actually make a pretty big difference in terms of landing a really good, quality player who could actually help this team in the long term (and possibly in the short term)

Agreed all the way around, though if you traded Smart or Brogdon, I'd rather keep him than move up 7 spots. I think Ayton, Collins, etc trades are likely to include draft picks and happen on or before tomorrow night. Hopefully some of those things are resolved before Indy and Utah (26, 28, 29). Once teams draft their guy, even in the late first, the fan base is excited and it's too late to flip them for a guy like pritchard after the draft. Really needs to be a draft night trade so bigger moves can be evaluated and all teams can see how the draft board is shaking out.

[RickyDizzle]

what is his extend and trade $ compared to if he was traded then signed as a free agent next offseason?

also, is he a restricted free agent if traded now or unrestricted? If Unrestricted he WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SIGN with a team that has not capspace right?

so if traded now to a team like say the wolves....he would not be able to sign there next offseason as they have no capspace to offer him a contract?

Well his bird rights would go with him they could extend him, just not supermax.

So then he wouldnt wait till the end of the year to get more money, as that would make him a UFA.

So if he is traded to a team "over the cap" he should extend and trade or else he will only be able to get the most money from a team under the cap.

In your scenario, I believe the Wolves as the holder of his bird rights would be able to offer him the most money and an extra year in unrestricted free agency.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

4 years from now? lol what.

Pritchard barely even played this season. He contributed basically nothing. We could have Davison or Madar fill that role. Or if Brad doesn't think either of them could do it, get someone like Patty Mills. Hell, even Kemba Walker or IT could do it.

It's not a very important role. The Nuggets just won the championship. The Payton Pritchard of their team was Reggie Jackson, who just sat on the bench the whole time.

But you know who did contribute to winning the championship for the Nuggets? Christian Braun, a wing they drafted late in the 1st round last year.

[RickyDizzle]

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

4 years from now? lol what.

Pritchard barely even played this season. He contributed basically nothing. We could have Davison or Madar fill that role. Or if Brad doesn't think either of them could do it, get someone like Patty Mills. Hell, even Kemba Walker or IT could do it.

It's not a very important role. The Nuggets just won the championship. The Payton Pritchard of their team was Reggie Jackson, who just sat on the bench the whole time.

But you know who did contribute to winning the championship for the Nuggets? Christian Braun, a wing they drafted late in the 1st round last year.

Excellent point. A younger less experienced player could definitely get more minutes than Pritchard and play a bigger role. Still think one of our guards ahead of Pritchard could get traded for a big in the next 48 hours though.

[Larry_Russell]

Well his bird rights would go with him they could extend him, just not supermax.

So then he wouldnt wait till the end of the year to get more money, as that would make him a UFA.

So if he is traded to a team "over the cap" he should extend and trade or else he will only be able to get the most money from a team under the cap.

In your scenario, I believe the Wolves as the holder of his bird rights would be able to offer him the most money and an extra year in unrestricted free agency.

And that amount is more than if he was traded and extended?

[The Corey's]

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

4 years from now? lol what.

Pritchard barely even played this season. He contributed basically nothing. We could have Davison or Madar fill that role. Or if Brad doesn't think either of them could do it, get someone like Patty Mills. Hell, even Kemba Walker or IT could do it.

It's not a very important role. The Nuggets just won the championship. The Payton Pritchard of their team was Reggie Jackson, who just sat on the bench the whole time.

But you know who did contribute to winning the championship for the Nuggets? Christian Braun, a wing they drafted late in the 1st round last year.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that Pritchard is more valuable to the Celtics than the 28th overall pick.

Aren't you one of the coaching apologist around here? Blame the coach for the horrible year Pritchard had. Dame coach who essentially fired grant Williams.

[Jaqua92]

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Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

[WeLikeOurGuys]

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Brown would be my top target for this team, but I'm not sure how you can add him.

[playa-hater]

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Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

agree and disagree. As a rule, you may be right. But the exception is If Boston has a particular player in sight they may want to aggressively trade up if he is still available.

Example Desmond Bane was drafted 30 a few years back (Yes I know we had him) at 28 we would have still had him, at 35 we would not.

Perhaps Utah will give 28 straight up anyway as the can not want so many rookies.. so we will see.

[RickyDizzle]

So then he wouldnt wait till the end of the year to get more money, as that would make him a UFA.

So if he is traded to a team "over the cap" he should extend and trade or else he will only be able to get the most money from a team under the cap.

In your scenario, I believe the Wolves as the holder of his bird rights would be able to offer him the most money and an extra year in unrestricted free agency.

And that amount is more than if he was traded and extended?

I think so. Not a cap expert, but a non supermax extension by a new team is based on a small percentage of annual raises on what he makes now versus a percentage of a team's overall salary cap.

[playa-hater]

How depressing is the thought that trading PP is the BIG MOVE we get all offseason

#FIREJOEBRADWYC

[GoCeltics123]

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And were probably told no lol

[RickyDizzle]

Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

4 years from now? lol what.

Pritchard barely even played this season. He contributed basically nothing. We could have Davison or Madar fill that role. Or if Brad doesn't think either of them could do it, get someone like Patty Mills. Hell, even Kemba Walker or IT could do it.

It's not a very important role. The Nuggets just won the championship. The Payton Pritchard of their team was Reggie Jackson, who just sat on the bench the whole time.

But you know who did contribute to winning the championship for the Nuggets? Christian Braun, a wing they drafted late in the 1st round last year.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that Pritchard is more valuable to the Celtics than the 28th overall pick.

Aren't you one of the coaching apologist around here? Blame the coach for the horrible year Pritchard had. Dame coach who essentially fired grant Williams.

You think it's obvious Pritchard is more valuable to the Cs than the 28th pick? I think that's entirely up for debate.

If Pritchard is our 4th guard instead of 5th guard behind JB, white, smart, and brogdon then I would definitely agree with you. If he's the 5th guard and we could draft someone that slots in ahead of Hauser (3rd wing behind brown/tatum) or a big that can compete with or replace Grant (3rd of 4th big), you could argue its good asset management to turn Pritchard into someone with a path to more minutes.

[Green89]

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Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

So then what big name player can only match if they get moved via a sign and trade by their outgoing team?

[fallguy]

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Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

LOL

[Celtics_Champs]

I always thought that was a joke account from Barstool Sports?