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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1901 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:46 am

Shuttlesworth99 wrote:Is it fair to say this is the make or break move of Danny's executive career?

The risk and reward of this move are monumental on both sides.

Like seriously he must have some big moves lined up this offseason or this trade just has too much risk written all over it in comparison to the reward he already had in Fultz.


It's fair to say that. It will be a nightmare scenario if the Nets are better and that pick is in the 10-14 range. That would an epic disaster when you had number one.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1902 » by Captain_Caveman » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:47 am

Shuttlesworth99 wrote:Is it fair to say this is the make or break move of Danny's executive career?

The risk and reward of this move are monumental on both sides.

Like seriously he must have some big moves lined up this offseason or this trade just has too much risk written all over it in comparison to the reward he already had in Fultz.


Not sure, but Danny's balls can be seen from outer space.

LOVE IT.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1903 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:47 am

I've wore my self out like a child.. I feel the sleep coming on.

I hope to wake to more assets involved in this trade.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1904 » by ShermansShoes » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:48 am

Effigy wrote:
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Froob wrote:That only matters if you think you can contend. Not seeing it....Celts reasons seems real dumb if it's not winning and overflow of guards.


WTF? I think Boston reasons are they are going to try and add a future star in this draft and one or two All Stars this offseason. Standing pat with Fultz was not going to make that possible.


Yeah, all Fultz could do is be a perennial all star for the next decade-plus and help you build a long lasting contender instead of giving it all away for the privilege of getting throttled by the Warriors for he next few years.


Or he could suck. I think it's 50/50.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1905 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:48 am

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2019 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 1st round pick to Boston (via Memphis) protected for selections 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if the L.A. Clippers have not conveyed a 1st round pick to Boston by 2020, then the L.A. Clippers will instead convey their 2022 2nd round pick to Boston [L.A. Clippers-Memphis, 2/18/2016; Boston-Memphis, 6/23/2016]


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Yup I was trying to edit it. That Clippers pick is pure garbage yet people think it's great. It's F-ing lottery protected and better yet can become a 2nd!!

That's a great deal from Danny, great deal.

He got it for 2 2nd rounders.


Still trash. Has no value. Can't trade with them and you get a fringe prospect at best. Only slightly better than a second rounder. Better sure, but not worth much in the NBA.

Better to have it than not, but that's about it.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1906 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:49 am

I refuse to root for fultz to suck just so danny can have one up on us.

Him and Simmons have the most potential now of any lottery team going.
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All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1907 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:50 am

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Yup I was trying to edit it. That Clippers pick is pure garbage yet people think it's great. It's F-ing lottery protected and better yet can become a 2nd!!

That's a great deal from Danny, great deal.

He got it for 2 2nd rounders.


Still trash. Has no value. Can't trade with them and you get a fringe prospect at best. Only slightly better than a second rounder. Better sure, but not worth much in the NBA.

Better to have it than not, but that's about it.


So you're hold up on the multi-level 2017 summer of the Celtics i am projecting is the LAC 2019 pick?


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Post#1908 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:50 am

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In the words of Conor McGregor, "Who the **** is THAT guy?"


It is very fitting to use a Conor McGregor quote connected to this move because the results of this trade feel much like the results of his fight with Mayeeather....Embarassing


Conor is getting paid like 40 times what he can make for a UFC fight, and will never have to fight again.

Floyd is 40 years old and will fight a super conservative defensive fight and probably just outpoint him with jabs, like he's done with the rest of the slobs he's beaten recently. And if Conor does *anything* in that fight, or even just goes the distance or wins a round or two, he is a legend forever.

Anyhow, moving on.


Mayweather is gonna drop him like a bag of donuts.

Your thinking that fight has any chance not ending in a knockout is helping me realize why you like this trade, though.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1909 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:51 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Shuttlesworth99 wrote:Is it fair to say this is the make or break move of Danny's executive career?

The risk and reward of this move are monumental on both sides.

Like seriously he must have some big moves lined up this offseason or this trade just has too much risk written all over it in comparison to the reward he already had in Fultz.


Not sure, but Danny's balls can be seen from outer space.

LOVE IT.


Nah, even the best NSA satellite that can read the fine print on newspapers couldn't find Ainge balls when he was trying to figure out what to do with number 1. They just all shriveled up and went back inside.

He got spooked, is delusional (glut of guards) and just doomed this team. If those picks don't pan out he got nothing for Fultz. Nothing.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1910 » by AKFO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:51 am

So I guess it's looking like the plan is gonna be to try to get George for cheap (retaining BKN, PHI, and LASAC picks), sign Hayward, and have an actual shot at beating the Warriors and Cavs while also still retaining our bright future. I'm sure Ainge is shooting for something like

Thomas/Smart
Hayward/Bradley
George/Brown
Horford/Tatum
Zizic
BKN 18
LASAC 18/19

I'm gonna have some fun dreams tonight
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Post#1911 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:51 am

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djFan71 wrote:He got it for 2 2nd rounders.


Still trash. Has no value. Can't trade with them and you get a fringe prospect at best. Only slightly better than a second rounder. Better sure, but not worth much in the NBA.

Better to have it than not, but that's about it.


So you're hold up on the multi-level 2017 summer of the Celtics i am projecting is the LAC 2019 pick?


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No im saying it has no value so who wants it? For anything good?
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Post#1912 » by ShermansShoes » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:52 am

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165bows wrote:So what does a Butler deal look like, whichever they like least out of Brown/#3 plus Bradley?

I liked the Butler/Griffin/Hayward trio addition at the beginning of this thread but that might break the wallet/Zarren's brain. Even harder than the earlier ones we had cooked up lol.


Interesting one now is trading for Butler and George with no cap room angle.

3rd pick, Grizz 2018, Amir, Crowder, Rozier for Butler and RLopez.

Nets 2018, Lakers 2018, Olynyk, Zeller, Jerebko for George.

IT/Smart
Butler/Bradley
George/Jaylen
Horford/Yabu
RLopez/Zizic

LOOK OUT!


This team does not beat Cleveland much less make a run at the warriors.


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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1913 » by JJtheBricklayer » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:52 am

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165bows wrote:Oh I was talking about getting all three of those guys. It would take a trade and two sign and trades, prob not remotely possible.

Oh. I don't see it happening unless you're trading away Horford for Griffin or Hayward.

It would have to be something like Bradley/#3 (signed)/D. Jackson for Butler
KO(signed at 19M descending deal)/Rozier/Mickey/Nader for Hayward
Zeller/Crowder/Amir/Jerebko for Griffin.

Would take finding teams for those last three big men though and that would take more assets.

IT-Butler-Hayward-Griffin-Horford with Smart, Brown, Zizic, and all the good future picks is a scenario worth looking into. Real problem though comes into play when they have to pay Butler/IT.


But whats the point? youplay Cle with IT-Butler-Hayward-Griffin-Horford and Cleveland still fields 3 of the 5 best players on the court including the 2 best. The best case scenario is you squeak by Cle only to get your doors blown off by GS. You can say you are 1 lebron injury from the finals... but I'd wager a GRiffin or Butler injury is more likely.

The Celtics need a franchise player, not 3 or 4 2nd and 3rd bananas...
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Post#1914 » by 165bows » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:52 am

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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1915 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:53 am

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Still trash. Has no value. Can't trade with them and you get a fringe prospect at best. Only slightly better than a second rounder. Better sure, but not worth much in the NBA.

Better to have it than not, but that's about it.


So you're hold up on the multi-level 2017 summer of the Celtics i am projecting is the LAC 2019 pick?


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No im saying it has no value so who wants it? For anything good?


It's part of a package? My apologies for including it in that package? I'm sorry you felt like analyzing the LAC 2019 pick rather than the projected summer I proposed


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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1916 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:53 am

AKFO wrote:So I guess it's looking like the plan is gonna be to try to get George for cheap (retaining BKN, PHI, and LASAC picks), sign Hayward, and have an actual shot at beating the Warriors and Cavs while also still retaining our bright future. I'm sure Ainge is shooting for something like

Thomas/Smart
Hayward/Bradley
George/Brown
Horford/Tatum
Zizic
BKN 18
LASAC 18/19

I'm gonna have some fun dreams tonight


That's all that is, a dream. That team won't beat Cleveland and Butler and IT will be past 30 and on his back 9 by the time it is. If by chance it can, it is getting smoked by GS.

So yeah go dream...
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Post#1917 » by robbie84 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:53 am

AKFO wrote:So I guess it's looking like the plan is gonna be to try to get George for cheap (retaining BKN, PHI, and LASAC picks), sign Hayward, and have an actual shot at beating the Warriors and Cavs while also still retaining our bright future. I'm sure Ainge is shooting for something like

Thomas/Smart
Hayward/Bradley
George/Brown
Horford/Tatum
Zizic
BKN 18
LASAC 18/19

I'm gonna have some fun dreams tonight



That team is not possible under the cap. Say good bye to at least Tatum and Bradley in that scenario where PG and Hayward come to Boston.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1918 » by robbie84 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:54 am

so what picks do we get? Does anyone know the deal or are we waiting on the Butler/George part to finalize?
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1919 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:55 am

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Shuttlesworth99 wrote:Is it fair to say this is the make or break move of Danny's executive career?

The risk and reward of this move are monumental on both sides.

Like seriously he must have some big moves lined up this offseason or this trade just has too much risk written all over it in comparison to the reward he already had in Fultz.


Not sure, but Danny's balls can be seen from outer space.

LOVE IT.


Nah, even the best NSA satellite that can read the fine print on newspapers couldn't find Ainge balls when he was trying to figure out what to do with number 1. They just all shriveled up and went back inside.

He got spooked, is delusional (glut of guards) and just doomed this team. If those picks don't pan out he got nothing for Fultz. Nothing.


I could not disagree with you more. It'll be great to revisiting this thread in about eight months.


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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1920 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:56 am

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Lakers with 3 straight 2nd overall picks. What are the odds they could do it for 4 straight years?

Not likely I'm sure

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