All things Draft Pick. #3

[ajones9219]

What do people value more highly - the #3 pick or Jaylen?

Jaylen by a country mile

[The Corey's]

What do people value more highly - the #3 pick or Jaylen?

Danny would ofc taken brown last year number 1. He just proved that this year.

Hard decision for me since brown didn't show alot but showed enough that there's something there. Stuff a million other prospects never do.

But pick 3 has the unknkown and could be a jackpot.

Id say pick 3

[ctorres]

Props for coming up with an offer to a board not known for kindness to strangers.

Right now, we're focused on one max FA signing (Hayward or Griffin) and one big trade. The trade target is expected to be George or Butler, but I would much prefer Porzingas. Think he's a perfect 5 in the Modern NBA. I'd be good with the 3 and a couple of our non premium firsts for him. What do you think you'd need if there is no Melo in the deal.

I appreciate the kindness and respectful responses from everyone here! Really, I'm just trying to assess where our respective fanbases currently value our assets.

Initially I included Melo as an alternative in the event that the Celtics would not be able to land George or Butler in a trade.

If there was no Melo in the deal, I think the Knicks would ask for the #3 and two additional future 1st round picks in exchange for Porzingis. Celtics could either absorb Porzingis' contract without sending any salaries in return, or they could pick out whatever contracts would work.

Nevertheless, I don't think the Celtics would give up anything more than the #3 and one additional 1st round pick for Porzingis.

It's also no guarantee that the Knicks would trade Porzingis to the Celtics without the Celtics taking on Melo as well.

Most likely, a trade won't happen between the Knicks and Celtics. However, I think the scenario is interesting though, because of how a potential Porzingis+Horford frontcourt can match up with either the Warriors or the Celtics. Also, I believe the Celtics are the only team with enough assets to make the Knicks at least consider trading Porzingis if they want to start with a clean slate once again.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Who needs jackson when we just signed Daniel "Danger" Theis?

You guys have been calling our big men pussies all season long. Look what Danny got you for next season...



You can't make this **** up. I think Ainge means business, guys.

omg

[OFWGKTA]

Props for coming up with an offer to a board not known for kindness to strangers.

Right now, we're focused on one max FA signing (Hayward or Griffin) and one big trade. The trade target is expected to be George or Butler, but I would much prefer Porzingas. Think he's a perfect 5 in the Modern NBA. I'd be good with the 3 and a couple of our non premium firsts for him. What do you think you'd need if there is no Melo in the deal.

I appreciate the kindness and respectful responses from everyone here! Really, I'm just trying to assess where our respective fanbases currently value our assets.

Initially I included Melo as an alternative in the event that the Celtics would not be able to land George or Butler in a trade.

If there was no Melo in the deal, I think the Knicks would ask for the #3 and two additional future 1st round picks in exchange for Porzingis. Celtics could either absorb Porzingis' contract without sending any salaries in return, or they could pick out whatever contracts would work.

Nevertheless, I don't think the Celtics would give up anything more than the #3 and one additional 1st round pick for Porzingis.

It's also no guarantee that the Knicks would trade Porzingis to the Celtics without the Celtics taking on Melo as well.

Most likely, a trade won't happen between the Knicks and Celtics. However, I think the scenario is interesting though, because of how a potential Porzingis+Horford frontcourt can match up with either the Warriors or the Celtics. Also, I believe the Celtics are the only team with enough assets to make the Knicks at least consider trading Porzingis if they want to start with a clean slate once again.

I'd do #3, 19Memphis pick, and Celtics 18 pick (not Brooklyn) for Porzingus, does NYC accept that?

[GoCeltics123]

Props for coming up with an offer to a board not known for kindness to strangers.

Right now, we're focused on one max FA signing (Hayward or Griffin) and one big trade. The trade target is expected to be George or Butler, but I would much prefer Porzingas. Think he's a perfect 5 in the Modern NBA. I'd be good with the 3 and a couple of our non premium firsts for him. What do you think you'd need if there is no Melo in the deal.

I appreciate the kindness and respectful responses from everyone here! Really, I'm just trying to assess where our respective fanbases currently value our assets.

Initially I included Melo as an alternative in the event that the Celtics would not be able to land George or Butler in a trade.

If there was no Melo in the deal, I think the Knicks would ask for the #3 and two additional future 1st round picks in exchange for Porzingis. Celtics could either absorb Porzingis' contract without sending any salaries in return, or they could pick out whatever contracts would work.

Nevertheless, I don't think the Celtics would give up anything more than the #3 and one additional 1st round pick for Porzingis.

It's also no guarantee that the Knicks would trade Porzingis to the Celtics without the Celtics taking on Melo as well.

Most likely, a trade won't happen between the Knicks and Celtics. However, I think the scenario is interesting though, because of how a potential Porzingis+Horford frontcourt can match up with either the Warriors or the Celtics. Also, I believe the Celtics are the only team with enough assets to make the Knicks at least consider trading Porzingis if they want to start with a clean slate once again.

I'd do #3, 19Memphis pick, and Celtics 18 pick (not Brooklyn) for Porzingus, does NYC accept that?

Yeah they won't. That's not nearly enough for him.

[Smog]

What do people value more highly - the #3 pick or Jaylen?

#3 by a fair bit. Though Jaylen probably upped his value last year. Just that last year's draft blew.

[chrisab123]

What do people value more highly - the #3 pick or Jaylen?

Danny would ofc taken brown last year number 1. He just proved that this year.

Hard decision for me since brown didn't show alot but showed enough that there's something there. Stuff a million other prospects never do.

But pick 3 has the unknkown and could be a jackpot.

Id say pick 3

Danny certainly did prove he would have traded Ben Simmons for Jaylen and a pick. Or worst case would have taken Jaylen Brown #1 overall. He just has a type of player that he thinks is a key to winning. I think we need to accept that the Celtics are not going to be a place where a superstar can come in and be himself. He's going to need to be gritty, tough, have a dirt dog mentality and be able to jack up threes and play high level defense. The Lakers will always have the superstar finesse players. Thats the way it will be and always has been. Offense and Rebounding just isn't a big deal here. Anything Danny says on those radio interviews saying otherwise is just a way to satisfy the green team fan base. Danny and Brad could give a **** about offense or rebounding. Its all about defense. Long athletic players. If they can develop a jumper then even better.

Just like next year. Maybe they take Porter. Maybe not. They definitely won't take any of the bigs. None of them have a 3 point shot. That doesn't work in the system. Miles Bridges fits like a glove with the team concept. I could see him going very high to the C's.

I wouldn't be shocked if he had Justice Winslow as the #1 prospect a couple years back either. Fits the profile. He just has a different board than everyone else.

[OFWGKTA]

I appreciate the kindness and respectful responses from everyone here! Really, I'm just trying to assess where our respective fanbases currently value our assets.

Initially I included Melo as an alternative in the event that the Celtics would not be able to land George or Butler in a trade.

If there was no Melo in the deal, I think the Knicks would ask for the #3 and two additional future 1st round picks in exchange for Porzingis. Celtics could either absorb Porzingis' contract without sending any salaries in return, or they could pick out whatever contracts would work.

Nevertheless, I don't think the Celtics would give up anything more than the #3 and one additional 1st round pick for Porzingis.

It's also no guarantee that the Knicks would trade Porzingis to the Celtics without the Celtics taking on Melo as well.

Most likely, a trade won't happen between the Knicks and Celtics. However, I think the scenario is interesting though, because of how a potential Porzingis+Horford frontcourt can match up with either the Warriors or the Celtics. Also, I believe the Celtics are the only team with enough assets to make the Knicks at least consider trading Porzingis if they want to start with a clean slate once again.

I'd do #3, 19Memphis pick, and Celtics 18 pick (not Brooklyn) for Porzingus, does NYC accept that?

Yeah they won't. That's not nearly enough for him.

How bout #3, 19Memphis, #7 (Flip Crowder and Celtics 18 to Minny), LAC19?

[Gomes3PC]

It'd be close. Tatum was better statistically this year but inferior athletically. Jackson is as good an athlete but has off-court issues and a much more troubling jumper. I still think he'd be the 3rd wing behind those two, but his play closed the gap.

[BigTrade92]

Young was like the 17th pick. What are the historical expectations for guys in that slot? He missed on the pick for sure but it's hardly a crisis. I'm sure you don't want to hear it but Ainge pretty consistently drafts guys who outperform the expected production for their draft slot.

The consensus pick on draft night was Rodney Hood, who turned out to be a fine player. Danny opted for the younger, shiner toy.

Hood has turned into a dud. He started out strong, but has become a volume shooter. He's only a .415 career shooter and looked horrid in the playoffs.

James Young never started out and will soon be on the verge of playing in China.

I'll take the volume shooter.

[Fencer reregistered]

Props for coming up with an offer to a board not known for kindness to strangers.

Right now, we're focused on one max FA signing (Hayward or Griffin) and one big trade. The trade target is expected to be George or Butler, but I would much prefer Porzingas. Think he's a perfect 5 in the Modern NBA. I'd be good with the 3 and a couple of our non premium firsts for him. What do you think you'd need if there is no Melo in the deal.

I appreciate the kindness and respectful responses from everyone here! Really, I'm just trying to assess where our respective fanbases currently value our assets.

Initially I included Melo as an alternative in the event that the Celtics would not be able to land George or Butler in a trade.

If there was no Melo in the deal, I think the Knicks would ask for the #3 and two additional future 1st round picks in exchange for Porzingis. Celtics could either absorb Porzingis' contract without sending any salaries in return, or they could pick out whatever contracts would work.

Nevertheless, I don't think the Celtics would give up anything more than the #3 and one additional 1st round pick for Porzingis.

It's also no guarantee that the Knicks would trade Porzingis to the Celtics without the Celtics taking on Melo as well.

Most likely, a trade won't happen between the Knicks and Celtics. However, I think the scenario is interesting though, because of how a potential Porzingis+Horford frontcourt can match up with either the Warriors or the Celtics. Also, I believe the Celtics are the only team with enough assets to make the Knicks at least consider trading Porzingis if they want to start with a clean slate once again.

The 3 and Porzingis are surely pretty close in salary. I'd guess without checking that he's a little higher. So sending a little extra salary at our end would be convenient. I'm guessing Rozier would be a pretty good fit for what Jackson likes to do. And I'd be happy to trade the 3, Rozier and a non-premium first for Porzingis. I'd even throw in a couple of late seconds if that seemed helpful.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Banks2Pierce]

I do really like Tatum. Compares statistically to Joe Johnson and makes up for his lack of athletic burst with smoothness and skill. Liked his defense when I saw him as well, despite some of the draftheads not liking it.

[fallguy]

What do people value more highly - the #3 pick or Jaylen?

Danny would ofc taken brown last year number 1. He just proved that this year.

Hard decision for me since brown didn't show alot but showed enough that there's something there. Stuff a million other prospects never do.

But pick 3 has the unknkown and could be a jackpot.

Id say pick 3

Danny didn't prove that he would have taken Brown #1 last year because he traded down this year.

That idea doesn't make any sense at all.

[CelticsPride18]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19679832/boston-celtics-work-jayson-tatum-possible-selection-no-3-pick

Tatum impressed in his workout for the C's. I want to draft this kid.

[sHpar]

Danny is playing 2k in real life

Trade #3 to the Suns for their #4 and next years Heat pick (1-7 protected in 2018, unprotected in 2019).
Suns select Jackson.

After that trade #4 to the Kings for their #5 + #10 or WCS or some other asset.
They select Fox.

Trade #5 to the Magic for their #6 + 2017 Raptors pick (#25) + some other asset
They select Tatum

Trade #6 to the Wolves for their #7 + some other asset
Wolves select Isaac

Trade #7 + everything you just traded for and go get Davis or Westbrook or some other stud nobody thought would be available.

Or you could easily trade for Butler or an another 2nd tier star and keep a lot of those assets for the future.

One can dream lol

[Celts17Pride]

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Just makes sense. The Celtics new starting power forward

[Gomes3PC]

I do really like Tatum. Compares statistically to Joe Johnson and makes up for his lack of athletic burst with smoothness and skill. Liked his defense when I saw him as well, despite some of the draftheads not liking it.

He makes up for those athletic shortcomings with smoothness/skill in college. That advantage will dissipate against NBA vets like PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder, etc.

[ajones9219]

https://twitter.com/Robot_Davey
I hate to be the dude throwing out random ass twitter accounts. But does anyone know who this dude is? Says he used to work at CSNNE I guess? Seems pretty damn sketchy but who knows

EDIT: didn't notice the dude has less than 100 followers lol