Trade Thread, Part 3: The Fun Continues

[SMTBSI]

Can we at least wait until the deadline has actually passed to start griping about what wasn't done?

[5InOfLouisville]

I have a soft spot for Jonas Jerebko and his backboard-smashing hook shots lol. What's he doing nowadays? James Johnson if bought out fits the bill. Smart passer, stout defender, but probably not a good influence to the young guys and may mess with locker room chem.

luckily, we now have G-Will to fulfill all of your hideous running hook shot needs. Long live tradition.

[jirrit]

Re the salarly issues preventing trades.

Its why some of us insist on a Hayward trade. This team with the salary structure as is will remain in the no trade zone for years at this rate. Getting pigeonholed into Having to resign Hayward cause no capspace mean you cannot sign anyone else.

So for the next 4 years we are locked into our top 4 and half the mle to spend.

Luckily? We have 200 draft picks?

I just disagree there. I don’t think signing a player as good as Hayward is is being “pigeon holed” especially how he’s played recently when healthy. I also don’t want the same people who want a trade for depth to improve our teams chances THIS season to suggest trading Hayward for lesser players who provide flexibility when the teams ceiling is much higher now WITH Hayward and it’s highest chance THIS season is him on the roster.

while on paper yes we are “locked in” to our top 4 - I don’t worry about those players as long as healthy like Hayward or brown not having enough value to be moved for an overall talent upgrade to this roster and quite frankly think both or at least 1 will be.

So you state you are not worried about the top 4 because as long as they are healthy either Hayward or Brown could be traded for an overall talent upgrade?

That is what I posted.

Only difference is I think they should trade Hayward now in an effort to win it all this year, and if they had done it earlier in the season, could have had pieces they could have used now at the deadline.

My want was to upgrade overall roster now, yours is potentially a season or more later to uprade the roster.

Ps: brown would never ever be traded before hayward. Cheaper, improving greatly, locked in salary wise, far younger, superior defender, and is more valuable to the team overall.

What is wrong with having Hayward? He’s finally healthy after two and a half years and now we gotta get rid of him? Just enjoy the ride, we’re constantly improving and if Ainge doesn’t find someone who won’t move the needle enough we won’t make a move. He’ll address the roster issues next deadline by moving up or down or for a disgruntled player that asks for a trade. We good man. Now everyone get healthy asap.

[Feed Your Head]

Can we at least wait until the deadline has actually passed to start griping about what wasn't done?

[Banks2Pierce]

Think Javonte and Langford getting starts recently may have been just as much us getting a look at them as other teams. You might not be willing to trade or waive Javonte if Langford is really far away. And if Javonte can't play, then you can upgrade. Kinda looks like Javonte failed the test if that's the case.

[Jingles]

Ainge doesn't make moves just to make moves. Fortunately, no team has ever won a championship simply because they added a guy like Alec Burks or PJ Tucker or any number of guys this board has coveted over the years, or lost one because they didn't.

I do think a sniper would be just about perfect for 10-15 minutes in a tight playoff rotation in the right matchups, so we'll see.

Edit: Heh, I forgot how good people are at making fantasy trade suggestions here. "Just trade Hayward for payroll flexibility but also somehow for better players who will improve championship odds." Easy.

[100proof]

I just disagree there. I don’t think signing a player as good as Hayward is is being “pigeon holed” especially how he’s played recently when healthy. I also don’t want the same people who want a trade for depth to improve our teams chances THIS season to suggest trading Hayward for lesser players who provide flexibility when the teams ceiling is much higher now WITH Hayward and it’s highest chance THIS season is him on the roster.

while on paper yes we are “locked in” to our top 4 - I don’t worry about those players as long as healthy like Hayward or brown not having enough value to be moved for an overall talent upgrade to this roster and quite frankly think both or at least 1 will be.

So you state you are not worried about the top 4 because as long as they are healthy either Hayward or Brown could be traded for an overall talent upgrade?

That is what I posted.

Only difference is I think they should trade Hayward now in an effort to win it all this year, and if they had done it earlier in the season, could have had pieces they could have used now at the deadline.

My want was to upgrade overall roster now, yours is potentially a season or more later to uprade the roster.

Ps: brown would never ever be traded before hayward. Cheaper, improving greatly, locked in salary wise, far younger, superior defender, and is more valuable to the team overall.

What is wrong with having Hayward? He’s finally healthy after two and a half years and now we gotta get rid of him? Just enjoy the ride, we’re constantly improving and if Ainge doesn’t find someone who won’t move the needle enough we won’t make a move. He’ll address the roster issues next deadline by moving up or down or for a disgruntled player that asks for a trade. We good man. Now everyone get healthy asap.

Nothing is wrong with hayward

Other than 32 million dollars and a potential of losing him for nothing this offseason

[Jingles]

So you state you are not worried about the top 4 because as long as they are healthy either Hayward or Brown could be traded for an overall talent upgrade?

That is what I posted.

Only difference is I think they should trade Hayward now in an effort to win it all this year, and if they had done it earlier in the season, could have had pieces they could have used now at the deadline.

My want was to upgrade overall roster now, yours is potentially a season or more later to uprade the roster.

Ps: brown would never ever be traded before hayward. Cheaper, improving greatly, locked in salary wise, far younger, superior defender, and is more valuable to the team overall.

What is wrong with having Hayward? He’s finally healthy after two and a half years and now we gotta get rid of him? Just enjoy the ride, we’re constantly improving and if Ainge doesn’t find someone who won’t move the needle enough we won’t make a move. He’ll address the roster issues next deadline by moving up or down or for a disgruntled player that asks for a trade. We good man. Now everyone get healthy asap.

Nothing is wrong with hayward

Other than 32 million dollars and a potential of losing him for nothing this offseason

Who can they trade Hayward for that so obviously improves this year's championship odds and just happens to be on a more beneficial long-term contract?

[Asian Celtic]

Can we at least wait until the deadline has actually passed to start griping about what wasn't done?

Somebody is bound to open another "Fire Danny Ainge Thread" if nothing happens.

[UNCBlue012]

I think Boston makes a move or two, just not sure they'll be very big.

[Homerclease]

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[100proof]

Can we at least wait until the deadline has actually passed to start griping about what wasn't done?

No, over reacting is fun

[SMTBSI]

Can we at least wait until the deadline has actually passed to start griping about what wasn't done?

No, over reacting is fun

Overreacting I'm cool with. We're talking about pre-reacting. Preacting.

[100proof]

What is wrong with having Hayward? He’s finally healthy after two and a half years and now we gotta get rid of him? Just enjoy the ride, we’re constantly improving and if Ainge doesn’t find someone who won’t move the needle enough we won’t make a move. He’ll address the roster issues next deadline by moving up or down or for a disgruntled player that asks for a trade. We good man. Now everyone get healthy asap.

Nothing is wrong with hayward

Other than 32 million dollars and a potential of losing him for nothing this offseason

Who can they trade Hayward for that so obviously improves this year's championship odds and just happens to be on a more beneficial long-term contract?

Well, that seems like it could be a long back and forth on that. Lets just leave it as there has been numerous proposals of deals that could in theory be out there for him. There are alot of teams that could use a player of his abilities.

[sully00]

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Javonte, Ojeleye, and Wanamaker aren't guaranteed next season. I guess we like Brad and Semi too much?

I don't think Wanamaker is expendable unless you have a legit back up PG coming in. I think as much as Boston would have liked to add Burks he and Robinson are not defensive players and having to waive a guy who is a defender and shooting the 3 sort of makes the move pointless.

My guess Ainge needed to move Poirer for this to make sense and couldn't or didn't. That said how is PHI pulling this off? Unless they find a consolidating trade they are going to have to waive some players and their cheap players are good.

[sully00]

Nothing is wrong with hayward

Other than 32 million dollars and a potential of losing him for nothing this offseason

Who can they trade Hayward for that so obviously improves this year's championship odds and just happens to be on a more beneficial long-term contract?

Well, that seems like it could be a long back and forth on that. Lets just leave it as there has been numerous proposals of deals that could in theory be out there for him. There are alot of teams that could use a player of his abilities.

Two teams just went off the list of cap space to accommodate anything close to what Hayward would want, granted there likely was not mutual interest between ATL and MEM and Hayward but it is going to be a very shallow pool of cap space so concerns about Hayward bolting not warranted at this time.

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Javonte, Ojeleye, and Wanamaker aren't guaranteed next season. I guess we like Brad and Semi too much?

I don't Wanamaker is expendable unless you have a legit back up PG coming in. I think as much as Boston would have liked to add Burks he and Robinson are not defensive players and having to waive a guy who is a defender and shooting the 3 sort of makes the move pointless.

My guess Ainge needed to move Poirer for this to make sense and couldn't or didn't. That said how is PHI pulling this off? Unless they find a consolidating trade they are going to have to waive some players and their cheap players are good.

Surely some rebuilding team would have taken Poirier with a sweetener. But who else to go? Green's kind of useful and only partially guaranteed. Was his recent start an ineffective showcasing?

[jeremym480]

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Javonte, Ojeleye, and Wanamaker aren't guaranteed next season. I guess we like Brad and Semi too much?

I think Wanamaker is much more needed than those two. Semi maybe not, but at least he can kind of guard (ie foul) Giannis a couple of times a game and his 3-ball is coming around. I am Burks would have been nice but I really don't see them moving the needle at all for us or Philly. *shrugs

[Froob]

Sounds like Wiz are not looking to move Bertrans. Two first round picks is too much for a guy that doesn't rebound or defend. I'd do Memphis pick and fillers and that's it. Unless an extension is in play, I don't think he'd be motivated to take one though.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Poirier and a pick for Looney? Gets GS under the tax, we get an upgrade at backup big