What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling?

[playa-hater]

I guess everyone has different a criteria when choosing what players are the best. One of my biggest is if that player is a great 2 way player. Only Giannis gets my vote over Tatum's 2 way ability. And regular season it's Giannis > Tatum every time. Giannis can just carry a load so easily. But in the playoffs, with Tatum stepping up so damn well. Being a better _Go to scorer under pressure. all while being a great defender. Wow, look out.

I mean even Giannis would not take KD at all last year.

With continued success in the playoffs, Tatum should be a top 5 LOCK next year.

And please don't ever PUT LUKA > Tatum again. 2 way greatness > One way 8 days a week.

Luka is still better than Tatum, let's not be homers here.

I think top 10 comfortably is fair. He's more than a year away from being a bonafied top 5 player though, he will be, probably by 2024-2025 season imo.

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So I'm a Homer despite me listing many reasons why Tatum is better such as actually being a great defender.
All wild Dallas rarely misses a beat when luka sits or doesn't play unbelievable. Pitcher Boston without Jason Tatum they get blown the f*** out

[Jaqua92]

I guess everyone has different a criteria when choosing what players are the best. One of my biggest is if that player is a great 2 way player. Only Giannis gets my vote over Tatum's 2 way ability. And regular season it's Giannis > Tatum every time. Giannis can just carry a load so easily. But in the playoffs, with Tatum stepping up so damn well. Being a better _Go to scorer under pressure. all while being a great defender. Wow, look out.

I mean even Giannis would not take KD at all last year.

With continued success in the playoffs, Tatum should be a top 5 LOCK next year.

And please don't ever PUT LUKA > Tatum again. 2 way greatness > One way 8 days a week.

Luka is still better than Tatum, let's not be homers here.

I think top 10 comfortably is fair. He's more than a year away from being a bonafied top 5 player though, he will be, probably by 2024-2025 season imo.

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So I'm a Homer despite me listing many reasons why Tatum is better such as actually being a great defender.
All wild Dallas rarely misses a beat when luka sits or doesn't play unbelievable. Pitcher Boston without Jason Tatum they get blown the f*** out

We saw Dallas without Luka. They were a bottom 2 West team..he turned them around.

Acknowledging Lukas greatness doesn't detract from Tatum's. Luka playing "no D" is old..Dallas is a good defensive team.

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[BostonCouchGM]

Tatum is definitely a better player than Luka. Defense matters and I don't care what the Mavs rank in defense, all you need to do is watch the games to see it has nothing to do with Luka who is legit one of the weakest defenders in the entire league. He'd be picked on and fouled out if the league wasn't rigged, he's so bad. Tatum on the other hand is seriously one of the best wing defenders in the league. If Tatum hunted uncontested defensive rebounds and assists like Luka than maybe people would be more impressed? One of them has also led a young team to the ECF while the other hasn't won a playoff series. I do like the discussion because it tells me who knows basketball and who to completely ignore going forward

[Drax]

We don't have to compaire Jayson to anyone i feel. Let him be the best version of himself and lets appreciate him the way he is. Jayson is a great player and hopefully a Celtic for his entire career. That's all we can ask for. I wouldn't trade him for anyone, because he is our homegrown superstar.

[playa-hater]

Luka is still better than Tatum, let's not be homers here.

I think top 10 comfortably is fair. He's more than a year away from being a bonafied top 5 player though, he will be, probably by 2024-2025 season imo.

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So I'm a Homer despite me listing many reasons why Tatum is better such as actually being a great defender.
All wild Dallas rarely misses a beat when luka sits or doesn't play unbelievable. Pitcher Boston without Jason Tatum they get blown the f*** out

We saw Dallas without Luka. They were a bottom 2 West team..he turned them around.

Acknowledging Lukas greatness doesn't detract from Tatum's. Luka playing "no D" is old..Dallas is a good defensive team.

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IT was a bad defender and Boston still had good Defense....in the regular season..

True Impact on winning is Tatum over Luka. Not even close. Luka, like Trae Young, Like J Morant, like Russell Westbrook in his triple double years and even Harden = You can only go so far. Ball dominators DO NOT make teammates better.

[Homerclease]

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[jmr07019]

Imagine Luka trying to defend Durant LOL. Defense matters and Tatum is vastly superior on that end.

[sam_I_am]

Imagine Luka trying to defend Durant LOL. Defense matters and Tatum is vastly superior on that end.

I think Luka will win a playoff series some day.

[Feed Your Head]

Yeah I mean I love Luka, but there’s almost no argument for him having a bigger impact than Tatum this season.

[BK_2020]

Why can't people appreciate Tatum without putting down someone else? FWIW Luka is an incredible player and I don't think Tatum is winning a playoff series with Jalen Brunson as his second best player.

[Feed Your Head]

Why can't people appreciate Tatum without putting down someone else? FWIW Luka is an incredible player and I don't think Tatum is winning a playoff series with Jalen Brunson as his second best player.

It’s the Boston way.

[Homerclease]

If people want to say Luka is better than Tatum I’m fine with it. It’s not an outrageous position and absolutely defendable. Personally I have Tatum ahead with how far he’s come with his playmaking.

1. Giannis
2. KD
3. Embiid
4. Jokic
5. Tatum
6. Luka
7. Ja
8. Booker
9. Lebron
10. Curry

Kawhi and AD would be on the list if they ever played. Harden has slipped out of the top 10 along with Dame and a few others. A new generation is starting to come to the forefront

[jmr07019]

Why can't people appreciate Tatum without putting down someone else? FWIW Luka is an incredible player and I don't think Tatum is winning a playoff series with Jalen Brunson as his second best player.

Any arguments about ceiling requires criticizing other top players

[sam_I_am]

Why can't people appreciate Tatum without putting down someone else? FWIW Luka is an incredible player and I don't think Tatum is winning a playoff series with Jalen Brunson as his second best player.

And to prove the point…..a savage attack on Jalen Brunson.

[Edug27]

Durant level is definitely Tatums ceiling in my opinion. I feel he’s already surpassed the Paul George ceiling most had for him early on.

Tatum and KD both have similar style games and put up similar stats. Both have a similar impact on the game. The glaring difference is KD’s shot. Much more consistent.

[Deivork]

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[Slax]

Why can't people appreciate Tatum without putting down someone else? FWIW Luka is an incredible player and I don't think Tatum is winning a playoff series with Jalen Brunson as his second best player.

I'm not really sure how but evidently Jalen Brunson is capable of possibly winning a playoff series as the best player on his team. (No bearing on Tatum vs Luka or anything, just taking a jab at the Jazz )

[Fencer reregistered]

If people want to say Luka is better than Tatum I’m fine with it. It’s not an outrageous position and absolutely defendable. Personally I have Tatum ahead with how far he’s come with his playmaking.

1. Giannis
2. KD
3. Embiid
4. Jokic
5. Tatum
6. Luka
7. Ja
8. Booker
9. Lebron
10. Curry

Kawhi and AD would be on the list if they ever played. Harden has slipped out of the top 10 along with Dame and a few others. A new generation is starting to come to the forefront

Tatum is frequently the best player on the floor when playing against one of those other guys. (And vice-versa.) No way is that ranking a stretch.

[sam_I_am]

Jason Tatum has been the most underrated defender in NBA for years. It’s understandable that his defense would get less attention because his offensive game is so polished and still improving by leaps and bounds and he is asked to do so much on that end. Also, guys he has played alongside like Smart, Horf, JB, Mook etc. have reputations. That said, his defensive impact and disruptive length has been a huge under the radar difference maker for years. Great to see him excel on center stage against the very best the game has to offer. He belongs on

[Jaqua92]

If people want to say Luka is better than Tatum I’m fine with it. It’s not an outrageous position and absolutely defendable. Personally I have Tatum ahead with how far he’s come with his playmaking.

1. Giannis
2. KD
3. Embiid
4. Jokic
5. Tatum
6. Luka
7. Ja
8. Booker
9. Lebron
10. Curry

Kawhi and AD would be on the list if they ever played. Harden has slipped out of the top 10 along with Dame and a few others. A new generation is starting to come to the forefront

I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable putting Ja and Booker in the top 10 quite yet.

Luka I do give the edge to over Tatum. Personally, I want to see Tatum sustain this playmaking AND defense. His defense took a step back last year, imo, and up until this season, he peaked defensively his sophomore year. Luka's offense has been more consistent than Tatum's defense which is why I still give him the edge. But if Tatum comes into next season playing all defensive defense, and keeps it up consistently, then hes over Luka.

At first glance, I'm not sure I agree with your top 10, but after really trying to make my own, I suppose you're right about the new generation - mine isn't that different

1. Giannis
2. KD
3. Jokic
4. Embiid
5. Curry
6. Luka
7. Tatum
8. LeBron
9. Ja
10. Kyrie/Booker

**** I don't know. Fully healthy I'd put Kawhi at 8, with LeBron and Ja rounding out the top 10.

I think Ja, Booker, PG, Trae, Kyrie are all guys you can put in that 8-13 range as fringe top 10 guys

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