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Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1901 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:42 pm

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Ben-N1ce wrote:Nothing is going to happen. Always smoke with Ainge then nothing.


There's been a bunch that have fizzled out, but we are still leading the league in bombshell trades under his tenure, don't you think?


I’m fairly certain that a move will be made.
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Post#1902 » by Spin Move » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:44 pm

If its Holliday AND turner for Hayward and the picks and not much else of value I am cool with it, but not for Hayward and the picks for just turner.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1903 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:00 pm

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Captain_Caveman wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:Nothing is going to happen. Always smoke with Ainge then nothing.


There's been a bunch that have fizzled out, but we are still leading the league in bombshell trades under his tenure, don't you think?


I’m fairly certain that a move will be made.

The Comedian in this thread if a move is made:

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1904 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:02 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
There's been a bunch that have fizzled out, but we are still leading the league in bombshell trades under his tenure, don't you think?


I’m fairly certain that a move will be made.

The Comedian in this thread if a move is made:

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Hahaha honestly it just feels like the writing is on the wall. Hayward is not going to be back next season, they have more picks than they can afford to keep. I know people mock the trader Danny moniker, but I think it’s pretty clear.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1905 » by Patsfan1081 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:06 pm

Why trade up to a spot where you could get your potential center for the future in Okongwu but instead move that pick for one season(and a shortened one) of Holiday? Danny needs to pick a lane.
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Post#1906 » by The Corey's » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:07 pm

3 first round picks for a 30 year old avg player that makes no difference for us? LOL
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1907 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:08 pm

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


I remember people on this board quoted this guy's tweets a lot in the AD chase? But this is the Jrue stuff
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1908 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:08 pm

Hayward + 3 picks for a same-tier expiring player like Jrue is the opposite of getting something back for a player presumably threatening to walk for nothing. JMO.

We are getting used as leverage in the bidding for Jrue.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1909 » by SuperDeluxe » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:11 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Not liking this. It's a king's ransom for Jrue. Hayward and one of the picks would be much more reasonable.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1910 » by yeleven11 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:11 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


I remember people on this board quoted this guy's tweets a lot in the AD chase? But this is the Jrue stuff


All of that seems like complete bs because if the Hawks wanted Hayward they could just sign him. They're not trading down from 6 to 14 AND giving up young players in the process to get an opted in Hayward instead of signing Hayward after he opts out.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1911 » by Darth Celtic » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:13 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Hayward + 3 picks for a same-tier expiring player like Jrue is the opposite of getting something back for a player presumably threatening to walk for nothing. JMO.

We are getting used as leverage in the bidding for Jrue.
Yup. Hayward and all three picks for 8 m cash savings and jrue is.....

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1912 » by The Corey's » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:13 pm

GoGreen wrote:If Danny manages to lose both Kyrie and Hayward and get NOTHING back, that's going to be a big fat L on his resume. You know Gordon is working on some deals behind the scenes.


Whoa calm down. Its not like he lost Horford for nothing too :roll:

He would of destroyed his entire cap flexibility beyond repair if he loses Hayward for nothing. It would be an immediate firing for almost every other GM but not here in forever job town.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1913 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:14 pm

Mr McNamara doesn’t seem very credible to me.
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Post#1914 » by The Corey's » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:15 pm

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GoGreen wrote:If Danny manages to lose both Kyrie and Hayward and get NOTHING back, that's going to be a big fat L on his resume. You know Gordon is working on some deals behind the scenes.

Both players were acquired for basically free. Sometimes just letting a player go is worth more than taking on contracts. See: Al Horford.


You people aren't putting enough stock into the lost cap space when deciding on whether or not those were bad moves by danny, which they were. They were beyond bad in fact.
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Post#1915 » by The Corey's » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:19 pm

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CelticsLV wrote:The whole framework seems way too complicated. Too many parties, too many pieces. Writing it off already.

Ainge has never put together a multiple team trade before :roll:


Can you point me to one? Especially this complicated?

This would effectively be a trade involving 4 parties.


Not like Ainge wasnt involved in the largest deal in nba history or anything

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Post#1916 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:21 pm

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GoGreen wrote:If Danny manages to lose both Kyrie and Hayward and get NOTHING back, that's going to be a big fat L on his resume. You know Gordon is working on some deals behind the scenes.

Both players were acquired for basically free. Sometimes just letting a player go is worth more than taking on contracts. See: Al Horford.


You people aren't putting enough stock into the lost cap space when deciding on whether or not those were bad moves by danny, which they were. They were beyond bad in fact.

How so? What were they going to do with the 'lost cap'? Hayward was a no-brainer signing that has been derailed by a freak injury. Kyrie didn't even have a high cap number. How were they 'beyond bad'?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1917 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:26 pm

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MaxwellSmart wrote:Everyone saying we can't trade Kemba cause it would look bad, But his KNEE might be the reason.

Doubt Hayward would wanna go anywhere but Indiana.


Knee or not, after what happened with IT and then if Hayward and Kemba go, we won't get any free agent bites for a decade or more.

No one cares about any of that ****. The only reason players go anywhere is because they get the most money there. You think Giannis or any worthwhile free agent signing is going to weigh his decision based on how the GM traded a washed up player 6 season ago?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1918 » by Captain_Caveman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:31 pm

SuperDeluxe wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Not liking this. It's a king's ransom for Jrue. Hayward and one of the picks would be much more reasonable.


It's the Hawks that get completely destroyed here. Give up all that for a guy they can sign for nothing?

Lol, no.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1919 » by captain green » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:31 pm

I'm going to pass on Hayward three picks for jrue that's a super dumb trade for us
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#1920 » by The Corey's » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:32 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
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Bleeding Green wrote:Both players were acquired for basically free. Sometimes just letting a player go is worth more than taking on contracts. See: Al Horford.


You people aren't putting enough stock into the lost cap space when deciding on whether or not those were bad moves by danny, which they were. They were beyond bad in fact.

How so? What were they going to do with the 'lost cap'? Hayward was a no-brainer signing that has been derailed by a freak injury. Kyrie didn't even have a high cap number. How were they 'beyond bad'?


Signing Irving and Horford to their big contracts would only be available to us because he held their Bird rights. With Brown and Tatum entering their max level contracts, our cap is shot BUT we would of had Hayward, Irving, Horford, Tatum and Brown all under huge deals that otherwise could not be accomplished.

WHICH would of allowed us to trade out the pieces (Irving, Hordford) for OTHER players that may or not not be making money we otherwise would not be able to sign.

That was a horrible misstep and frankly paralyzed our chances of footing a team worth a damn going forward. The Irving one cancels out because Danny was able to grab Kemba on a max deal but he was ONLY able to do that because Horford also left. You see? Two max contract guys out, ONE in. And that was only possible because Brown max deal started this season and not last.

There is no way for this team to compete with Brown and Tatum both making 30 million dollars and especially with the cap likely heading toward a downward trending direction because of covid.

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