Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[ddb]

a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.

That's a pretty low bar and how does this balance against our having this huge TPE?

I mean Harrison Barnes is clearly better than Grant and Semi but I wouldn't want to add him into the TPE....I think you need a better player than Barnes to pay that kind of money.

It's really not as simple to upgrade at the SF/PF....while I definitely agree that there is a clear need there.

doubtful DA makes a substantial move in-season. If he uses TPE it'll be the Kanter TPE or a portion of the Hayward. He's going to want that flexibility in the off-season

[themoneyteam2]

Haven't kept up with Oubre, what has gone wrong? He seemed like he was gonna be good. Maybe not fill up a stat sheet good but winning games good.

Absolute **** in every possible way. Wouldn't take him on a vet minimum, but he looks like a basketball player, so he might squeeze a few more years out before heading to China. Dude has three total assists to Curry this season, while starting in the same backcourt. I could so the same just falling down and letting the ball roll out of my hands while curling into the fetal position.

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The fact that they even counted those as assists blows my mind. Lol

It’s the stats era. That’s why it’s hard for me to take some of these stats seriously when they hand out assists like candy

[Wes-J]

Me: our bench sucks, we should add talent

Everyone: no way! Our rookies are good. We need the FRP for cheap talent

*lose in the playoffs because were so shallow*

Repeat exercise.

If I'm looking at the life of the Tatum/Brown deals we don't need any FRP's for the next 4 years at minimum.

There should be more than enough assets between the young guys and picks to acquire several veteran pieces.

Now is the time for Ainge to make noise I can't handle another disappointing playoff exit because we thought Theis would somehow fare better against Abedayo or the bench would magically substain leads against superior benches.

It's not a little, there's a lot of work to be done here.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Some people who dont want Lonzo would be saying funny things about Smart if he werent on our team

He has made every team better whenever he is on the court. He’s a winning player who moves the ball. But please, educate me on how Jeff Teague is the better option

When Smart was 23 he shot about 30% from 3 and many wanted him gone...

[themoneyteam2]

Already have Langford for that, and not worth a FRP regardless.

Dude is getting floated for Oubre right now, and Oubre makes more money and is having one of the worst seasons ever.

The fact so many people want lonzo and would give up assets for him makes me really wonder about the collective knowledge around here

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The fact that people think he wouldnt be a MASSIVE upgrade over Jeff Teague makes me question if theyve ever watched a game that doesnt involve the Celtics

Sure he would be a massive upgrade over Teague but you’re also going to have to give up real assets to get him and then pay him as a RFA.

You can upgrade Teague by just cutting him and giving those minutes to Pritchard or just trading Teague and a 2nd for an average backup.

[chrisab123]

I'm sorry but if all it takes to get Lonzo and Reddick is Romeo and the TPE I'll be at the garden to pick him up around 7.

[themoneyteam2]

a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.

That's a pretty low bar and how does this balance against our having this huge TPE?

I mean Harrison Barnes is clearly better than Grant and Semi but I wouldn't want to add him into the TPE....I think you need a better player than Barnes to pay that kind of money.

It's really not as simple to upgrade at the SF/PF....while I definitely agree that there is a clear need there.

doubtful DA makes a substantial move in-season. If he uses TPE it'll be the Kanter TPE or a portion of the Hayward. He's going to want that flexibility in the off-season

Spot on. The big TPE will almost definitely not be used during the year. However, Ainge needs to be more aggressive and upgrade the wing depth and bench behind the starters. They’re really just 1-2 pieces in my opinion from having a legit chance at the finals.

[Fencer reregistered]

a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.

That's a pretty low bar and how does this balance against our having this huge TPE?

I mean Harrison Barnes is clearly better than Grant and Semi but I wouldn't want to add him into the TPE....I think you need a better player than Barnes to pay that kind of money.

It's really not as simple to upgrade at the SF/PF....while I definitely agree that there is a clear need there.

doubtful DA makes a substantial move in-season. If he uses TPE it'll be the Kanter TPE or a portion of the Hayward. He's going to want that flexibility in the off-season

Are there any interesting players who will price themselves out of the TPE in the new league year?

Or do we not care about the answer to the previous question, because trading at the end of this league year would work at least as well as trading early next year?

[SmartWentCrazy]

The fact so many people want lonzo and would give up assets for him makes me really wonder about the collective knowledge around here

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The fact that people think he wouldnt be a MASSIVE upgrade over Jeff Teague makes me question if theyve ever watched a game that doesnt involve the Celtics

Sure he would be a massive upgrade over Teague but you’re also going to have to give up real assets to get him and then pay him as a RFA.

You can upgrade Teague by just cutting him and giving those minutes to Pritchard or just trading Teague and a 2nd for an average backup.

Its a late FRP. We used one last year to shed Kanter’s salary.

Lonzo is going to get squeezed in RFA. He’s not good enough to warrant the overpay itd take to not get a match, similar to what we saw with Smart.

He’s a winning player with upside. I’m good gambling on that.

[tfribs45]

Lol

you really think Danny and CO. want to deal with the Ball family lol. We already have the Kardashians in town. TMZ would be all over the TD Garden. In all seriousness, Redick would be a great snag, if we could unload Green and a few seconds. Not sure what it would take

Have you watched anything since 2017? Or seen that Lonzo had a massive falling out with his dad, largely due to his actions. And that theyve since reconciled, but Lavar hasnt said ****?

And your advocating dumping Javonte for Redick?

I've watched plenty of games my friend....It doesn't take a genius to know that the last thing this squad needs is a PG that can distribute....That's one of our deepest positions . We don't need a Stevens 12 man rotation come playoff time.

[MagicBagley18]

a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.

That's a pretty low bar and how does this balance against our having this huge TPE?

I mean Harrison Barnes is clearly better than Grant and Semi but I wouldn't want to add him into the TPE....I think you need a better player than Barnes to pay that kind of money.

It's really not as simple to upgrade at the SF/PF....while I definitely agree that there is a clear need there.

doubtful DA makes a substantial move in-season. If he uses TPE it'll be the Kanter TPE or a portion of the Hayward. He's going to want that flexibility in the off-season

As he should

[themoneyteam2]

The fact that people think he wouldnt be a MASSIVE upgrade over Jeff Teague makes me question if theyve ever watched a game that doesnt involve the Celtics

Sure he would be a massive upgrade over Teague but you’re also going to have to give up real assets to get him and then pay him as a RFA.

You can upgrade Teague by just cutting him and giving those minutes to Pritchard or just trading Teague and a 2nd for an average backup.

Its a late FRP. We used one last year to shed Kanter’s salary.

Lonzo is going to get squeezed in RFA. He’s not good enough to warrant the overpay itd take to not get a match, similar to what we saw with Smart.

He’s a winning player with upside. I’m good gambling on that.

Would it just be late FRP for Lonzo? Pelicans are looking for more from what I’ve seen. Either way there are much easier and better ways to upgrade over Teague imo and really they should be looking to upgrade the wing depth

[SmartWentCrazy]

you really think Danny and CO. want to deal with the Ball family lol. We already have the Kardashians in town. TMZ would be all over the TD Garden. In all seriousness, Redick would be a great snag, if we could unload Green and a few seconds. Not sure what it would take

Have you watched anything since 2017? Or seen that Lonzo had a massive falling out with his dad, largely due to his actions. And that theyve since reconciled, but Lavar hasnt said ****?

And your advocating dumping Javonte for Redick?

I've watched plenty of games my friend....It doesn't take a genius to know that the last thing this squad needs is a PG that can distribute....That's one of our deepest positions . We don't need a Stevens 12 man rotation come playoff time.

We have a bottom 5 passing team in the league, and a lack of ball movement just crushed us in the playoffs— a PG who distributes could much improve things.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Sure he would be a massive upgrade over Teague but you’re also going to have to give up real assets to get him and then pay him as a RFA.

You can upgrade Teague by just cutting him and giving those minutes to Pritchard or just trading Teague and a 2nd for an average backup.

Its a late FRP. We used one last year to shed Kanter’s salary.

Lonzo is going to get squeezed in RFA. He’s not good enough to warrant the overpay itd take to not get a match, similar to what we saw with Smart.

He’s a winning player with upside. I’m good gambling on that.

Would it just be late FRP for Lonzo? Pelicans are looking for more from what I’ve seen. Either way there are much easier and better ways to upgrade over Teague imo and really they should be looking to upgrade the wing depth

My understanding is theyre selling to create room for Kira Lewis to play. Maybe I’m wrong, but thats the assumption I’m working under.

[themoneyteam2]

Its a late FRP. We used one last year to shed Kanter’s salary.

Lonzo is going to get squeezed in RFA. He’s not good enough to warrant the overpay itd take to not get a match, similar to what we saw with Smart.

He’s a winning player with upside. I’m good gambling on that.

Would it just be late FRP for Lonzo? Pelicans are looking for more from what I’ve seen. Either way there are much easier and better ways to upgrade over Teague imo and really they should be looking to upgrade the wing depth

My understanding is theyre selling to create room for Kira Lewis to play. Maybe I’m wrong, but thats the assumption I’m working under.

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I agree. I just think they can upgrade Teague in a much simpler way than trading a first round pick and possibly for Lonzo. Teague is on a vet min deal for a reason this year but I’d like to see them trade for more scoring and shooting off the bench

[klemen4]

The best option fit, age and contract wise is Aaron Gordon.

18million (16 next season)
Fits into TPE
Plays PF and sf
Good defender
Improved 3pt
Still only 25

Perfect fit really

What we could offer?

G.Williams
2 first round picks
Edwards

[Andrew McCeltic]

a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.

That's a pretty low bar and how does this balance against our having this huge TPE?

I mean Harrison Barnes is clearly better than Grant and Semi but I wouldn't want to add him into the TPE....I think you need a better player than Barnes to pay that kind of money.

It's really not as simple to upgrade at the SF/PF....while I definitely agree that there is a clear need there.

doubtful DA makes a substantial move in-season. If he uses TPE it'll be the Kanter TPE or a portion of the Hayward. He's going to want that flexibility in the off-season

Who are we getting with the Kanter TPE? My only hope is that the Kemba and New England connection lets us win the Drummond contest after he’s bought out.. coached right, he could be an impact player.

Otherwise- there are years where Danny Ainge trades half the team and years where he seems to have deliberately constructed a roster to be inflexible.

Just frustrating because we’re so close to being a contender - seems like there should be a way to make a leap with the TPE and Kemba, instead of waiting three years for Grant and Rob Williams to become PJ Tucker and Clint Capela.

[keevsnick1]

So on Lonzo. The guy has been pretty brutal this year. He has a 48.2 TS%, as compared to Marcus Smart who has a 52.8 % TS. He has a lower AST% than Smart with a 21.4% vs 24.9% and a higher turnover rate than you'd like at 16.7% vs 12.3% for Smart. So he's a clearly worse offensive player than Smart right now. He's a great passer in transition situations, but his complete lack of ability to generate offense in the half court means his passing ability doesn't translate real well to half court sets. He is shooting below 30% on threes so he has no outside gravity. He's having literally n one of the worst high output shooting seasons on record. And obviously he isn't as good defensively as Smart, although its really hard to evaluate him in that regard since that entire team has stunk on the defensive end. Most important I don't see him being strong enough to defend bigger wings.

Now look, maybe he's just having an off year. If he's more like what he was last year than this year then he's a fine addition as a 3+D guy with some extra passing ie a Marcus Smart ish guy. But this year he hasn't been that yet and using assets on a guy like that is a risk. As always it depends on the price, and what else is available (ie the opportunity cost).

Reddick meanwhile just looks like toast, pass.

[JediMasterRevan]

Have you watched anything since 2017? Or seen that Lonzo had a massive falling out with his dad, largely due to his actions. And that theyve since reconciled, but Lavar hasnt said ****?

And your advocating dumping Javonte for Redick?

I've watched plenty of games my friend....It doesn't take a genius to know that the last thing this squad needs is a PG that can distribute....That's one of our deepest positions . We don't need a Stevens 12 man rotation come playoff time.

We have a bottom 5 passing team in the league, and a lack of ball movement just crushed us in the playoffs— a PG who distributes could much improve things.

Imporovements from Brown and Tatum as well as having Pritchard I thinks helps address that

[JediMasterRevan]

The best option fit, age and contract wise is Aaron Gordon.

18million (16 next season)
Fits into TPE
Plays PF and sf
Good defender
Improved 3pt
Still only 25

Perfect fit really

What we could offer?

G.Williams
2 first round picks
Edwards

I would make that deal. Team still has to address backup PF though.

Kemba/Pritchard/Teague
Brown/Smart/Green
Tatum/Nesmith/Romeo
Gordon/Semi
Theis/Thompson/Timelord


We would have to use the TPE to trade for Aaron, then trade Grant and Edwards into the TPE that Orlando now would have i believe.

So Celtics would be left with about 10 million left on the Hayward TPE, a new 4.5 million TPE, and the Kanter TPE and a need for another PF