Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[Larry_Russell]

Hmmm...

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Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Oooh, that could be it too.

Interesting....

[Hal14]

Call me crazy but reading Pritchard to move up 7 slots seems like a backward move I. The short term.

I'm not big on him but if you're gonna move him you need to get something that's gonna contribute now. Not 4 years from now.

4 years from now? lol what.

Pritchard barely even played this season. He contributed basically nothing. We could have Davison or Madar fill that role. Or if Brad doesn't think either of them could do it, get someone like Patty Mills. Hell, even Kemba Walker or IT could do it.

It's not a very important role. The Nuggets just won the championship. The Payton Pritchard of their team was Reggie Jackson, who just sat on the bench the whole time.

But you know who did contribute to winning the championship for the Nuggets? Christian Braun, a wing they drafted late in the 1st round last year.

Excellent point. A younger less experienced player could definitely get more minutes than Pritchard and play a bigger role. Still think one of our guards ahead of Pritchard could get traded for a big in the next 48 hours though.

Sure, and if that happens (smart or brogdon is traded for a frontcourt player) I'm still not worried about losing Pritchard.

We'd just start white at the 1, brown at the 2 with brogdon as our guard off the bench. Or If Brogdon is moved, you start smart at the 1, brown at the 2 with white as the guard off the bench.

That would still leave us with 3 very good guards to rotate in and out. We don't need to rotate 4 of them in and out (with 3 of the 4 guards being under 6'5"). We did that this past season, but it's not an ideal rotation. We were too small, too guard heavy. Not enough size. Plus, with all 4 of those guards all fighting for minutes, it messed up the team chemistry, guys didn't know their roles. You could tell Smart wasn't as happy and wasn't as effective as he was the previous season, due to the crowded backcourt and logjam we had this season, White played better when he got more minutes (in games where Smart or Brogdon was out). Guys were out of rhythm.

Denver won the title, and the only guard they had off the bench was Bruce Brown. Hell they even started him quite a bit in the playoffs, which left them with no guards coming in off the bench in the rotation - only a couple of wings (KCP and Braun).

Plus, we would still have the rest of the offseason to add another guard if we wanted to. Whether it's adding someone like patty Mills, Gary Harris. Or just have Davison or Madar do it. It would be small role. We're talking about your 3rd guard in the rotation who is under 6'5". Teams typically do not have more than 1 or 2 guards in their rotation who are under 6'5". The Nuggets had Murray and Brown. The Heat had Lowry and Vincent. Knicks had Brunson and Quickley, with their other guys who were under 6'5" were buried deep at the end of the bench.

If our biggest problem is not having enough undersized guards, I think we'll be ok

We could always get a Strus/Kennard type of guy to backfill that spot. I'd rather get someone with more size than pritchard. Hell, even if it's someone like Covington, KJ Martin, Jae'Sean Tate, etc. We'll have enough ball handling - Tatum handles the ball like a guard..

[hugepatsfan]

Makes a lot of sense that the Suns would talk to us about Ayton. They need depth and we’re as flush as any team with mid level exception plus type contracts. They could trade Ayton for 2-3 of our role players.

At the same time, the exact way they want depth around their big 3 we want depth around our star duo. Ayton is a good player but not so good that you aren’t better off spending the same amount for 2-3 good players instead.

[GoCeltics123]

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[Celts17Pride]

Hmmm...

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Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Who is the big free agent target that the Celtics would trade Jaylen Brown for?

[Celts17Pride]

Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Oooh, that could be it too.

Interesting....

Until you look at the Top 3 free agents this year which are Harden, Irving and Middleton. Again, makes no sense.

[Larry_Russell]

Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Who is the big free agent target that the Celtics would trade Jaylen Brown for?

Grant and #3?

[Celts17Pride]

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Who is the big free agent target that the Celtics would trade Jaylen Brown for?

Grant and #3?

Give it up.

[165bows]

I don't think it's going to happen but reuniting Smart and Ime for an absolute haul seems like a low-key outlier move.

[Larry_Russell]

I don't think it's going to happen but reuniting Smart and Ime for an absolute haul seems like a low-key outlier move.

eason, MArtin and a pick would be a no brainer move for both teams, imo.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[ddb]

Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Who is the big free agent target that the Celtics would trade Jaylen Brown for?

I hope this guy knows something. I am ALL FOR moving JB. Not because I don't like him as a player, but because of the main reason we've been discussing for months now....Paying him the supermax is SUICIDE long-term. If there's a team super high on him that wants him now, MAKE THAT DEAL.

Hopefully, it's a 3-teamer with Dame coming to Boston. Brown elsewhere, and picks/young talent to Portland.

[Celts17Pride]

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And were probably told no lol

Good thing I'm not GM, I would move Brogdon and RW3 in a heartbeat for Ayton and worry about the tax and 2nd apron later. RW3 never plays.

[31to6]

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Brown would be my top target for this team, but I'm not sure how you can add him.

1. time machine
2. go back to last summer
3. offer MLE to a young player on the upside of his career who would be great backing up the Jays, instead of to the ghost of Danillo Gallinari who wasn't hurt yet, but doesn't fit into any obvious slot in our lineup
4. turn off time machine before your arm starts to disappear and you develop an overwhelming urge to get physical with ur MOM

edit to add: honestly Bruce was my #1 MLE target last summer, check the posts but I'm not looking it up Poindexter;)

[Green89]

Makes zero sense, Jaylen Brown is already under contract for next year.

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Oooh, that could be it too.

Interesting....

Can KAT go out via sign and trade? He signed an extension on July 1st, 2022. Is he eligible this July 1st? If so, it would be a way both teams can get out of a supermax for each player.

[GoCeltics123]

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Most obvious posturing in the history of posturing

[31to6]

How depressing is the thought that trading PP is the BIG MOVE we get all offseason

#FIREJOEBRADWYC

you are not owed a BIG MOVE my guy
a team that won 57 games isn't usually getting a lot of fireworks
especially when its best players are just getting to the beginnings of their primes

Spoiler:

please don't respond with the definition of insanity quote that'd be if they were a few years over 30, not under it;)

[ddb]

3-Team Blockbuster between Boston, San Antonio, and Portland.

Celtics Out: Jaylen, Brogdon
Celtics In: Dame, McDermott

Spurs in: Jaylen, Brogdon
Spurs Out: Vassell, KJohnson, Sochan, #33, #44

Portland Out: Dame
Portland In: Vassell, KJohnson, Sochan, #33, #44

Why for Boston: Dame is best player in the deal. Pair him with Tatum you're a title favorite. McDermott gives floor spacing and depth on the wing. Avoid paying Jaylen his massive contract. Open up more guard minutes for White and a little PT for PP.

Why for Spurs: Draft Wemby. Franchise cornerstone. Pair him with another pillar in JB who SA will gladly pay the max to since they don't have a 2nd max guy at the moment. Brogdon gives them another veteran guy that along with JB can mentor Wemby. They can now go out and spend in free agency and build a competitive team right away around Wemby.

Why for Portland: Listen, same old song with this group. Dame wants one thing; the organization seems to want something else. So make the damn move already. Draft Scoot. Develop Sharpe. Bring in 3 talented young players from SA to join the group. This is a rebuild, but if Scoot or Sharpe hit big, they can be right back in the thick of things within a few years out west.

[31to6]

If JB is the player being signed and traded. But that account is a legit insider, who has a solid track record. This reads to me that the other team, if it's legit, is singing and training to match Jaylen's contract, not that Jaylen is being signed and traded

Oooh, that could be it too.

Interesting....

Can KAT go out via sign and trade? He signed an extension on July 1st, 2022. Is he eligible this July 1st? If so, it would be a way both teams can get out of a supermax for each player.

I know who is a FA
and his name starts
with Vuc
and ends with ic
and I can't remember how many letters are in the middle

IT'S HAPPENING
JUST LIKE ANDREW MCCELTIC PROMISSSSSEEDDD!!

[Curmudgeon]

Dame is going to love that Scoot Henderson pick LOL.