Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 10: Free Agency is in Free Flow

[Disinformation]

I like Bradley Beal as much as the next guy but really, he's the guy I'm supposed to get excited about as the next C's target? After years of pining for AD, the idea of Beal just leaves me flat.

[Edug27]

wtf has jaylen brown done to command 29 million per?

I must’ve missed that signing

It’s what he’s going to get and ask for....otherwise he becomes an RFA and a malcontent. Next years free agent class is horribly weak someone will offer him the max or at least 25 +.

It doesn’t have to be beal. Find someone else who is a really good player entering their prime and we can get using Jaylen as the centerpiece. Beal is the hot name bc he’s suspected to be on the market and imo would fit in great

Preach.

[Edug27]

I like Bradley Beal as much as the next guy but really, he's the guy I'm supposed to get excited about as the next C's target? After years of pining for AD, the idea of Beal just leaves me flat.

While you spent years pining for AD.. we acquired Horford, Kyrie, IT etc... so how about you get a jump start on Giannas, and in the meantime we acquire dudes like Kemba and Beal.

[MagicBagley18]

I like Bradley Beal as much as the next guy but really, he's the guy I'm supposed to get excited about as the next C's target? After years of pining for AD, the idea of Beal just leaves me flat.

Haha I hear ya...but we did go from kyrie and AD to kemba and Enes so at least we are consistent

[SmartWentCrazy]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

[Edug27]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Beal and Kemba are 2 players who can drop 40+ on you any given night.

[Disinformation]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Where's the top 5 player you need to win a championship?

[SmartWentCrazy]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Beal and Kemba are 2 players who can drop 40+ on you any given night.

And can space the hell out of the floor. Very balanced attack by all 3.

Tatum and Beal have known each other for about 10 years now and are good friends. Tatum recruited Kemba and I’m guessing they get along real well— hoping that Tatum and Kemba can recruit Beal on team USA this summer after Beal ramps up the pressure on Washington by turning down his extension.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Where's the top 5 player you need to win a championship?

So we prefer holding on to worse players than trading for a better one because hes not good enough? That seems ass backwards.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Hint: top 5 players arent itching to play here. Turning down very good talent to hope for that to change will just result in you wasting your time.

[Disinformation]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Where's the top 5 player you need to win a championship?

So we prefer holding on to worse players than trading for a better one because hes not good enough? That seems ass backwards.

My concern is that we load up on players who aren't going to get us to a title. Which is exactly what a Kemba/Beal/Tatum team looks like to me. I would rather take a step back then have even signed Kemba but that's obviously not what we're doing.

[Disinformation]

Hint: top 5 players arent itching to play here. Turning down very good talent to hope for that to change will just result in you wasting your time.

And putting together a team like you're proposing isn't wasting your time? Ooh...we win 55 games instead of 45 and then get knocked out in the second round. That's something to look forward to.

[fallguy]

Where's the top 5 player you need to win a championship?

So we prefer holding on to worse players than trading for a better one because hes not good enough? That seems ass backwards.

My concern is that we load up on players who aren't going to get us to a title. Which is exactly what a Kemba/Beal/Tatum team looks like to me. I would rather take a step back then have even signed Kemba but that's obviously not what we're doing.

That's what Toronto did.

Until they didn't.

[Theocy]

Hint: top 5 players arent itching to play here. Turning down very good talent to hope for that to change will just result in you wasting your time.

And putting together a team like you're proposing isn't wasting your time? Ooh...we win 55 games instead of 45 and then get knocked out in the second round. That's something to look forward to.

You think Kemba Beal Tatum is a second round exit? Are they playing 3 vs 5? Assuming this would occur next year it would also probably mean brown is traded(to get beal) and there could be an option to go for another star by trading Gordon and picks. Big hypothetical but probably doable?

[MagicBagley18]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Where's the top 5 player you need to win a championship?

If he becomes available you still have Tatum as a trade piece and we have seen teams get creative using 3 team deals if you have a desirable player on the roster like Beal or kemba or Hayward, plus who says Tatum doesn’t become that top guy.

I’ve lurked here for a long time and posted for a while recently but I’ve seen and learned that no player who becomes available is going to be good enough for some people here (not you at all just in general). I’ve seen kawhi be called over rated and not top 10. PG not worth it. AD overrated and so on and so forth. No matter who it is people aren’t happy and no matter what fans overrate potential and the player on their team- that part is just human nature but it’s done a lot around here.

I think we need to realize the top 5 guys are locked up and not available right now and may not be for awhile. Tatum is a real commodity and trade piece and he’s not going anywhere. He’s good enough to get you in the door on any top guy. Not to mention we still own all our picks and have Hayward as an expiring or a piece to trade etc and some guys who could have potential and value.

I’ve always felt you need 1 top 5-10 guy and 2 other top 25 players to win it all and while we wouldn’t have any top 5 guys , we would have a very good team with 2 guys in the 15-20 range potentially 3 if Hayward is healthy and a young up and coming Tatum with Stevens coaching. All high character good locker rooms.

The league is really wide open, most importantly the east. Kemba/Beal/Hayward/Tatum is in the finals. With a good offseason and added depth a chance to win it all

[Disinformation]

Hint: top 5 players arent itching to play here. Turning down very good talent to hope for that to change will just result in you wasting your time.

And putting together a team like you're proposing isn't wasting your time? Ooh...we win 55 games instead of 45 and then get knocked out in the second round. That's something to look forward to.

You think Kemba Beal Tatum is a second round exit? Are they playing 3 vs 5? Assuming this would occur next year it would also probably mean brown is traded(to get beal) and there could be an option to go for another star by trading Gordon and picks. Big hypothetical but probably doable?

Second round, WCF, who **** cares...taht team is not winning a title if those are the top 3 players.

[SichtingLives]

dogg i dont know what the general chitchat is these days but we aint trading for beal. i mean. i like him. solid all star sg butttt we have needs, and other needs, and then other needs and they're all 6'8" or above

[Disinformation]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Where's the top 5 player you need to win a championship?

If he becomes available you still have Tatum as a trade piece and we have seen teams get creative using 3 team deals if you have a desirable player on the roster like Beal or kemba or Hayward, plus who says Tatum doesn’t become that top guy.

I’ve lurked here for a long time and posted for a while recently but I’ve seen and learned that no player who becomes available is going to be good enough for some people here (not you at all just in general). I’ve seen kawhi be called over rated and not top 10. PG not worth it. AD overrated and so on and so forth. No matter who it is people aren’t happy and no matter what fans overrate potential and the player on their team- that part is just human nature but it’s done a lot around here.

I think we need to realize the top 5 guys are locked up and not available right now and may not be for awhile. Tatum is a real commodity and trade piece and he’s not going anywhere. He’s good enough to get you in the door on any top guy. Not to mention we still own all our picks and have Hayward as an expiring or a piece to trade etc and some guys who could have potential and value.

I’ve always felt you need 1 top 5-10 guy and 2 other top 25 players to win it all and while we wouldn’t have any top 5 guys , we would have a very good team with 2 guys in the 15-20 range potentially 3 if Hayward is healthy and a young up and coming Tatum with Stevens coaching. All high character good locker rooms.

The league is really wide open, most importantly the east.

I really don't get the excitement about an "open" east. So we can win the east while it's weak. And lose in the Finals. Personally, I think a lot of people are willing to settle for a fun, "competitive" team (by which mean playoffs, not titles) after putting up with last year's crapfest. I'm not.

[celticgreenie]

Yah, a Kemba-Beal-Tatum core is damn good. More than content to roll with that before flipping Hayward’s expiring deal in the summer for the best C we can get.

Beal and Kemba are 2 players who can drop 40+ on you any given night.

And can space the hell out of the floor. Very balanced attack by all 3.

Tatum and Beal have known each other for about 10 years now and are good friends. Tatum recruited Kemba and I’m guessing they get along real well— hoping that Tatum and Kemba can recruit Beal on team USA this summer after Beal ramps up the pressure on Washington by turning down his extension.

Plus this about Kemba's feelings toward Beal according to Washington Times:
Kemba Walker not only respects Bradley Beal, but the Charlotte Hornets star said he was a “huge fan” of the Washington Wizards guard. Sitting at his locker after the Hornets‘ 116-110 win Friday, Walker praised Beal’s passion and energy.

This tidbit from last year doesn't hurt our chances either of wanting a trade:
Sources on @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium: The Washington Wizards had a volatile practice within recent days, with verbal altercations among players and an exasperated Bradley Beal saying toward team officials: "I've been dealing with this for seven years."

1:38 PM - 19 Nov 2018

Last thing about Beal as it relates to Tatum:
It’s tough because he had a lot of success last year, a lot last year. And I know he may be pressuring himself in having Kyrie [Irving] back and having Gordon [Hayward] back. It’s tough, I always say it tough because you have so many talented guys on one team and it’s going to take sacrifice from everybody. It’s the only way that they’re able to move forward. I think they’re going to fix it. They’re going to get it together. This is a smart team. Coach Stevens is a great coach. Tatum is, he’s going to continue to grow. And I think the best part about it [is] he doesn’t have to rush it, he doesn’t have to rush his development at all. You have plenty of guys to learn from, plenty of guys who can push you each and every day to get better. I think he’s in the perfect spot.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Kemba/Beal could be dynamite offensively for a few years, but..

Ideally you could see how Kemba/Brown/Hayward/Tatum mesh offensively.. but it’s also better to strike now than have them lose value if the team struggles again