Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[chrisab123]

Again the number 1 thing this franchise needs to ask itself: can we get a third star or legit talent here? Is Beal possible? Is Fox or Hield or Barnes possible? Etc. If they're not...you gotta ask bigger questions. Future of the Jays, rebuilding, etc.

If you can't get a 3rd player here and the Jays want to leave then Boston needs to nail the draft. This is not a destination. The history of the city is a negative but if they're winning and have a good culture its probably not going to be a factor. Players don't care about 17 titles when they've only witnessed 1. But you take everything into account the nightlife, weather, restrictions, high cost of living, lack of marketing opportunities and exposure why would Boston be in anyones top 5 destinations?

Yeah sure LA and NYC have the same restrictions in terms of mandates but at least they have nightlife and a ton of exposure for their celebrities. Bottom line its in their best interest to make both Jaylen and Jayson happy otherwise both are gone to LA NY or Miami.

[Feed Your Head]

I think Smart will be moved in a package if they can get a player they want (like a Sabonis, Fox etc. if the Celtics had interest) but they are not going to just give Smart away. Smart is too valuable.

I don’t want them to give him away, he’s my favorite Celtics player ever besides Pierce. I just think it’s the most likely path they take.

Totally. Likely in the offseason, Celtics management/ownership will do anything to avoid trading brown.

As someone obviously open to trading Jaylen, it probably should only be done if it’s abundantly clear that it’s not going to work.

You know how I feel about Smart, but moving him seems to be the most logical next step.

[BleedGreen1989]

Does something around Smart for Conely make sense for either side?

[GoGreen]

I'm not a fan of Marcus, but I keep him over Fox. He's exactly what we don't need. That Haliburton guy though, yes pls

[Feed Your Head]

Does something around Smart for Conely make sense for either side?

Definitely not for Utah.

[sully00]

While very true this team is not worth paying lux tax, being under eliminates teams trying to jam you at the deadline because they are getting you under. Boston is likely going to be looking at 3 team deals and anytime your cutting salary in a deal as a tax payer is going to be viewed as something the other team needs to be compensated for.

They are 850k over the tax likely....think they’ll be fine without getting leveraged too hard there lol

Cs literally just shed 3M without compensating the other team(s). Even gained an asset depending on how you view Bol Bol and acquiring players' Bird Rights.

It's just a matter of finding another team who's (equally or) more desperate (as) than you. In this case, Nuggets wanted a shooter and were willing to give up a young player and future 2nd for him.

Everything has its value. Boston had a roster spot so it was able to facilitate a deal for someone else. That has gotten them under or at least able to get under without help.

Now when you deal with teams the issue becomes whether this move puts you over or not.

[keevsnick1]

If this was the only article about it, that would be one thing. But this is just one example of many, from respected nba writers.

As far as the offensive chemistry, he definitely means between Smart and Jaylen. How true is it? No clue lol.

I distinctly remember an article from either January or February talking about how the Smart to Brown assist was in fact the most common assist pair by both totals assists and points in the entire league at the time. I mean clearly that pairing works fine offensively. Its like one of the weirder pairings you could nitpick on the team. They also work fine together, team has an overall 5.6 net rating with that two man lineup.

I don't know, I read an article that cites a bunch of examples of play-style problems taht too be honest i don't even think are actual problems and I have a hard time taking it seriously. The article is based on "team sources," and its entirely possible those "team sources" are just wrong about the actual issue.

When and where is the j anon meeting ?

Mondays and Fridays at the local YMCA, after the NBA Weight Watchers meetings. We have coffee, but I recommend bringing your own snacks because Zion and Harden clean out the donuts well before we get there.

[MagicBagley18]

I don’t want them to give him away, he’s my favorite Celtics player ever besides Pierce. I just think it’s the most likely path they take.

Totally. Likely in the offseason, Celtics management/ownership will do anything to avoid trading brown.

As someone obviously open to trading Jaylen, it probably should only be done if it’s abundantly clear that it’s not going to work.

You know how I feel about Smart, but moving him seems to be the most logical next step.

Absolutely, you can’t just trade Jaylen to trade him.

[Andrew McCeltic]

There’s just been a cloud around this team for awhile.. first in Kyrie’s walk year, then last season, now again. Hayward leaving didn’t help.

[GoCeltics123]

It's always tough evaluating Sacramento Kings players. The organization is a dumpster fire.

They're going to bail out Morey and take Tobias Harris, I just know it

[Stan34]

https://theathletic.com/3078848/2022/01/19/whats-the-latest-on-the-celtics-as-trade-deadline-approaches/?source=emp_shared_article

I dont buy the first paragraph of the second quote.

Does Jaylen get lost in his head sometimes defensively, yup. Is it happening as often as it did in the past, no.

Even if so, if your team is so weak that it refuses to play the right way because someone misses a defensive assignment once or twice a game then those guys need gone.

The point is that you can't lead with any credibility if you're constantly f*cking up yourself. If Brown played up to his defensive potential he might be able to pull it off. And Grant Williams? They ended practice months ago with a "shut the f*ck up Grant!" cheer.

Jaylen has the best DRTG on the team. But he is responsabile for everything going bad for the Celtics

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[Celts17Pride]

It's always tough evaluating Sacramento Kings players. The organization is a dumpster fire.

They're going to bail out Morey and take Tobias Harris, I just know it

Like I said..............................

[chrisab123]

I'm not a fan of Marcus, but I keep him over Fox. He's exactly what we don't need. That Haliburton guy though, yes pls

Why? Fox is a point guard, who has shown flashes of brilliance and is the victim of a crap situation in Sacramento. Marcus is in an ideal situation and is under performing and has maxed out his potential. You can not like the player but the fit is there and he probably would have a career year playing with 2 all stars.

This team needs a better 3rd star than Marcus if they want to compete.

[MagicBagley18]

I dont buy the first paragraph of the second quote.

Does Jaylen get lost in his head sometimes defensively, yup. Is it happening as often as it did in the past, no.

Even if so, if your team is so weak that it refuses to play the right way because someone misses a defensive assignment once or twice a game then those guys need gone.

The point is that you can't lead with any credibility if you're constantly f*cking up yourself. If Brown played up to his defensive potential he might be able to pull it off. And Grant Williams? They ended practice months ago with a "shut the f*ck up Grant!" cheer.

Jaylen has the best DRTG on the team. But he is responsabile for everything going bad for the Celtics

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Maybe the writer who has absolutely no dog in the fight at all is just a Jaylen “hater”

[Feed Your Head]

It's always tough evaluating Sacramento Kings players. The organization is a dumpster fire.

They're going to bail out Morey and take Tobias Harris, I just know it

Such a Kings move.

[GoCeltics123]

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Also Bulpett is writing again and it's not about us his source's name in the story definitely rhymes with Zanny Lainge though lol

[GoCeltics123]

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[GoGreen]

I'm not a fan of Marcus, but I keep him over Fox. He's exactly what we don't need. That Haliburton guy though, yes pls

Why? Fox is a point guard, who has shown flashes of brilliance and is the victim of a crap situation in Sacramento. Marcus is in an ideal situation and is under performing and has maxed out his potential. You can not like the player but the fit is there and he probably would have a career year playing with 2 all stars.

This team needs a better 3rd star than Marcus if they want to compete.

Eh, I think I've just had my share of smaller PGs that can't defend, or dribble around a lot. Plus, this one can't shoot. And his contract is monstrous.

[Celts17Pride]

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Lakers targeting all those players with nothing to offer. Good to know.

[Fantaxp7]

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Incoming Lakers fans saying they're getting all of them

Lakers targeting all those players with nothing to offer. Good to know.

Exactly. They went all in and have been managing the bargain bin for the past few years....and the last move they did was cash in some of their assets and now they have their backs against the wall stuck with Westbrook.

Still, watch them do something...they always seem to get lucky.