All things Draft Pick. #3

[CelticsLV]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

[Banks2Pierce]

He makes up for those athletic shortcomings with smoothness/skill in college. That advantage will dissipate against NBA vets like PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder, etc.

His length may be Melo-ish, though. Measured at 6'8" 2 years ago and with the same measurements as Carmelo's pre-draft camp. Melo had the broad shoulders and more strength so Tatum is not the same prospect, but there's a really good groundwork laid for a kid this young with that size, shot, and smoothness.

[fallguy]

It makes perfect sense actually.

I can only go on what danny has proven over and over again.

That he has his own draft board. That he has his own set of guys he likes and that when he has the number 1 pick he will go against convention and consensus and trade down to take a guy who can't shoot.

Be real man. Danny values pick 3 and extra lottery picks over pick number 1. This isn't because he doesn't like fultz.

And realistically what are the chances the Celtics bring Simmons in for a workout last year and don't find the injury that led to his season ending surgery? We're already hearing spin that fultz leg is playing a part in this decision. God forbid this kid misses next year and all the "danny was right just see threads pop up.

Atleast HALF of real gm believe that fultz is better or equal to Simmons. This isn't simply a case of last year number 1 pick is just leagues ahead of this one. I know this because I put the poll out on the general board. People are spilt.

And Simmons can't shoot for ****.

It's not hard to derive what danny would of done. If we had pick 1 and Sixers had 3 last year he would of coupd the laker pick this year like he did for next year's.

If Danny had Simmons on the top of his board, he would not have traded a first overall pick last year.

He would have taken Simmons.

1000% agree.

But he didn't. He had brown.

Cause danny has a type.

You mean guys that can't shoot. Like Simmons.

[Gomes3PC]

He makes up for those athletic shortcomings with smoothness/skill in college. That advantage will dissipate against NBA vets like PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder, etc.

His length may be Melo-ish, though. Measured at 6'8" 2 years ago and with the same measurements as Carmelo's pre-draft camp. Melo had the broad shoulders and more strength so Tatum is not the same prospect, but there's a really good groundwork laid for a kid this young with that size, shot, and smoothness.

Melo came into the league at 230 pounds and crushed folks in the paint, and still does. Tatum is not the interior presence Melo is. And even with that, Melo has defensive shortcomings because of his footspeed offensively and lack of elite length. If Tatum is Melo without the offensive physicality, that's not a good projection. Again, that's basically Tobias Harris you're talking about.

[Green_teamer]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

Better then reported. I like it.

[The Corey's]

If Danny had Simmons on the top of his board, he would not have traded a first overall pick last year.

He would have taken Simmons.

1000% agree.

But he didn't. He had brown.

Cause danny has a type.

You mean guys that can't shoot. Like Simmons.

Sir. Yes sir.

[chrisab123]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

Deal still sucks. 2019 is Zion and everyone else...

[Taget]

I think the key to another fall back trade lays with who Phoenix wants to select with the 4th pick. If the Kings really do covet D'Aaron Fox and they have intel that Phoenix will pick him at the 4, then the field would be set for the Celtics to swap the 3rd for the 5th & 9th pick. If the Celtics are torn between Tatum and Jackson, they will definitely be able to land one of the two with the 5th pick assuming Phoenix no longer has the ability to select Fox. It would be assumed that Phoenix would then select either Tatum or Jackson. So this 3 for 5/9 swap looks really good. Plus another guy the Celtics love could fall to 9.

Or if Phoenix wants Jackson trade down to 4, get a few minor assets. Then if Sacramento wants Fox... trade time again. And you still end up with Tatum.

Yeah. Low grade assets, but useful for small trades and even trading up in future drafts.

[Fencer reregistered]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

So zero chance of the pick being the #1 overall.

[jfs1000d]

That's a lot from Boston's side. I wouldn't touch that.

Holy cow. That is an Anthony Davis godfather type offer for Zinger and Anthony, who might be looked at as a slight negative due to contract.

You want two top 5 picks, our no. 3 last year, and then two starters, one an all-NBA defender, off a 53-win team that has made 3 straight playoffs appearances on great contracts in their prime?

Holy cow.


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It's really not that bad lol. Porzingis is worth more than the #3 pick, and anyone doubting that is a blind homer. Ainge clearly would take Kristaps #1 in this draft given he dealt away Fultz. Dude also gave us an option to replace Jaylen with Rozier, who no Celtic fan has an issue including as a secondary asset.

value wise, knicks are getting more, but that's the cost to get a young big with superstar potential with 7 years of team control left, especially when there are
0 elite bigs on the market.

I get Melo isn't everyone's cup of tea, but Carmelo as a 3rd/4th option could be a quality, efficient player. If there's a way to make contracts work without Zeller after FA (meaning we get Hayward), this puts the celtics in a really good spot. Porzingis and Jaylen is a nice core to build on, with the 2018 Nets pick still on tap, and
A team that can challenge the cavs and have a fun year

Would I have traded the #1 for Zinger? Nah, but we don't have it anymore, and the return we got for the pick is defitantly worthy of an offer to the knicks. Give us KOQ instead of those other scrubs though

The issue isn't Zinger. Would I trade no. 3 for him right now? Yes. No. 1? Probably. But you added another first rounder that was a lottery, and you added brown, and you added two starters.

All for the right to pay a declining Anthony $100 million? Gtfo.


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[fallguy]

1000% agree.

But he didn't. He had brown.

Cause danny has a type.

You mean guys that can't shoot. Like Simmons.

Sir. Yes sir.

You realize nothing you're saying is logical right?

[GoCeltics123]

Oh god the Sac pick is #1 protected? Meh

[DK-All Day]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

Deal still sucks. 2019 is Zion and everyone else...

Marvin Bagley will be in that draft class also.

[Fencer reregistered]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

So if sac gets first overall pick and Sixers make the playoffs danny **** misses here. Badly.

Migujt as well root for the pick to convert this season

Of course.

One way it's guaranteed to be in the 2-5 range. (Else it doesn't convert.)
The other way it's guaranteed to be in the 2-30 range, with likelihood but no certainty that it's toward the favorable end.

[The Corey's]

You mean guys that can't shoot. Like Simmons.

Sir. Yes sir.

You realize nothing you're saying is logical right?

Go away rookie.

Dannyt wouldn't pick Simmons my man. Deal with it.

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[derblitzenator]

That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

Deal still sucks. 2019 is Zion and everyone else...

Marvin Bagley will be in that draft class also.

And Moses Brown a 7-1 Center who's best case comp is AD.

[Celts17Pride]

Now that the Bos/Philly deal has been completed the new Celtics rumors are really going to start flying.

[fallguy]

Sir. Yes sir.

You realize nothing you're saying is logical right?

Go away rookie.

Dannyt wouldn't pick Simmons my man. Deal with it.

I tried, guys.

[sportfan6197]

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

Better then reported. I like it.

No it's not?