Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24

[Tyakack]

Cs just traded Smart.

So White and Brogs are now very important pieces.

Yeah, I still don't understand the amount of people that want brogs gone. I feel like we watched two different seasons.

[Triple7]

I wanna know if we're gonna sign Blake. He's been helpful to us last season. I don't mind brimging him back.

You don’t mind, but Blake does. He said he wanted a role on a team, and he won’t get that here.

Where did he say that?

Also, he has no contract yet with any team, so he might have to just take what he can get - unless he wants to have a bigger role on a European team.

I think it was just days after we lost to the heat. Not a direct interview, but some guy said it. I’ll try to look it up. Looked like he wanted a more definite role somewhere. Can’t blame the guy.

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Yam will be playing for my team. I’ll have much better insight on his development now. We have sent a bunch of players to the NBA in the last decade (Bojan, Bogdan, Bjelica, Wanamaker and some others who haven’t worked out well).

Hopefully he plays a couple years for us, wins a Euroleague title and heads over

[Darthlukey]

Cs just traded Smart.

So White and Brogs are now very important pieces.

Yeah, I still don't understand the amount of people that want brogs gone. I feel like we watched two different seasons.

I assume it's the health thing. I'm a huge brogdon fan, but if we can get a reliable floor general without the health issues, I wouldn't hate it.
Assuming he is healthy, he makes plays this season rather than being a scorer off the bench

[BK_2020]

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Is it just me or is that offer terrible? What is likely a late 1st, a little bit of rotational youth and thats it?

The Celtics equivalent would be if we offered Luke Kornet, Oshae Brissett, and Payton Pritchard plus 2024 FRP. Brad has to beat this offer if this is all that's out there.

[Green89]

You don’t mind, but Blake does. He said he wanted a role on a team, and he won’t get that here.

Where did he say that?

Also, he has no contract yet with any team, so he might have to just take what he can get - unless he wants to have a bigger role on a European team.

I think it was just days after we lost to the heat. Not a direct interview, but some guy said it. I’ll try to look it up. Looked like he wanted a more definite role somewhere. Can’t blame the guy.

There were times during the playoffs where he should have been inserted in games. Not sure why he got no minutes, but you can't blame him for not wanting to keep off the court.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Trade those Second Round Picks...

- Yammy signed with a new team.
- Begarin can't shoot to save his life.
- JD the Turnover King is another non shooter.
- Walsh seems solid rather than starrish.

[chrisab123]

Trade those Second Round Picks...

- Yammy signed with a new team.
- Begarin can't shoot to save his life.
- JD the Turnover King is another non shooter.
- Walsh seems solid rather than starrish.

Walsh could be a pretty valuable role player. I like his energy. Plus hes 19. Kind of tough to determine his future

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Is it just me or is that offer terrible? What is likely a late 1st, a little bit of rotational youth and thats it?

The Celtics equivalent would be if we offered Luke Kornet, Oshae Brissett, and Payton Pritchard plus 2024 FRP. Brad has to beat this offer if this is all that's out there.

I am salivating for Siakam over here.
It’s hard to match his salary without Jaylen though, would have to be Malcolm plus Rob or Al plus Pritchard — damn you Brad for not having any bad contracts! With Porzingis here I no longer am pushing JB for Siakam, but the length of a JT/Siakam/Kristaps frontcourt would boggle the mind.

[BK_2020]

Is it just me or is that offer terrible? What is likely a late 1st, a little bit of rotational youth and thats it?

The Celtics equivalent would be if we offered Luke Kornet, Oshae Brissett, and Payton Pritchard plus 2024 FRP. Brad has to beat this offer if this is all that's out there.

I am salivating for Siakam over here.
It’s hard to match his salary without Jaylen though, would have to be Malcolm plus Rob or Al plus Pritchard — damn you Brad for not having any bad contracts! With Porzingis here I no longer am pushing JB for Siakam, but the length of a JT/Siakam/Kristaps frontcourt would boggle the mind.

As good as Horford has been I think you send him out for a Siakam rental. And it doesn't have to be a rental if we ship Jaylen out for something in the 2024 off-season depending on how things shake out.
Make it happen Brad!

[AlCelticFan]

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Second coaches challenge if the first is successful could get very very interesting.

O cool. More stoppages.

I wonder if the league wants a ton of stoppages either? What are their incentives? One way of looking at it they get to run more adds. But they have to know a ton of stoppages means it looks bad for their refs and ultimately the league.

Because, if the league doesn't like a zillion stoppages, then maybe they'll actually have some internal pressure to get their refs to level up.

[cl2117]

If there is an option of getting Siakam reasonably cheap I think it would be a big brain move. Extend both him and Brown and then see what happens. One will have to be moved next year, but both eligible to be traded summer 2024 and should net you solid returns. And your team this year will be absolutely amazing.

White/ Brown/ Tatum/ Siakam/ KP

That's and all-star game type lineup and you've still got a reasonable bench.


BOS in: Siakam, K. Martin Jr.
BOS out: Brogdon, R. Williams, Champagnie, 2024 GSW first, BOS 2026 first

Get Siakam for a superteam:

White/ Banton
Brown/ Pritchard
Tatum/ Hauser/ K. Martin Jr.
Siakam/ Brissete/ Walsh
KP/ Horford/ Kornet

TOR in: GSW 2024 first, BOS 2026 first, IND 2024 first, B. Hyland, Covington, M. Morris,
TOR out: Siakam

3 firsts and expiring salary for the expiring Siakam. Gotta imagine they can do better than this, but maybe if C's throw in some swaps as well. It beats that IND offer at least, but still would be surprised if they don't do better.

IND in: R. Williams
IND out: IND 2024 first, Theis

Pacers get a upside C that pairs really well with Turner. Can play them both together and also have Timelord back up Myles. Get off Theis money too.

LAC in: Brogdon, Theis
LAC out: Covington, M. Morris, K. Martin Jr., B. Hyland

LAC bring in Brogdon to either start or be their 6th man. Theis is expensive C depth but expiring next year and they don't take on extra money this year. Only costs them Martin Jr. and Hyland, probably too good a deal for them.

[Larry_Russell]

Brogdon and Rob Williams and a pick and a little cash to Toronto

OKC has too large a roster so into the TPE we can take Jeremiah Robinson Earl and Isaiah Joe for a 2nd or something,.

Siakam, Robinson Earl, and Joe to Boston


White/Pritchard/Banton
Brown/Joe/.....
Tatum/Walsh/Hauser
Siakam/Robinson Earl/Brisset
Porzingas/Horford/Kornet

Just need a backup shooter for a vet min. (Maybe even a 2 way like Jay Scrubb)

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Trade those Second Round Picks...

- Yammy signed with a new team.
- Begarin can't shoot to save his life.
- JD the Turnover King is another non shooter.
- Walsh seems solid rather than starrish.

Walsh could be a pretty valuable role player. I like his energy. Plus hes 19. Kind of tough to determine his future

The key word was those, as in second rounders in general, since the Celts seem rather inept
at drafting them, than trading anyone from this particular group, which have little value, until
any of them actually prove themselves to be legitimate NBA players.

[cl2117]

Brogdon and Rob Williams and a pick and a little cash to Toronto

OKC has too large a roster so into the TPE we can take Jeremiah Robinson Earl and Isaiah Joe for a 2nd or something,.

Siakam, Robinson Earl, and Joe to Boston


White/Pritchard/Banton
Brown/Joe/.....
Tatum/Walsh/Hauser
Siakam/Robinson Earl/Brisset
Porzingas/Horford/Kornet

Just need a backup shooter for a vet min. (Maybe even a 2 way like Jay Scrubb)

Don't think Toronto will want either of Brogdon or Rob. They just signed Poetl long-term and they're not a good match. And if they're moving Siakam, they're signalling leaning into rebuild and won't want Brogdon.

Think you'll need to loop in teams willing to give value/expirings for those guys, which shouldn't be too difficult. Rob should net a first, Brogdon should get one as well but think it's trickier due to his health. 2 firsts from those guys, 1 first from us. That's not a horrific package if Toronto is struggling to get anyone else to bite.

[cl2117]

Trade those Second Round Picks...

- Yammy signed with a new team.
- Begarin can't shoot to save his life.
- JD the Turnover King is another non shooter.
- Walsh seems solid rather than starrish.

Walsh could be a pretty valuable role player. I like his energy. Plus hes 19. Kind of tough to determine his future

The key word was those, as in second rounders in general, since the Celts seem rather inept
at drafting them, than trading anyone from this particular group, which have little value, until
any of them actually prove themselves to be legitimate NBA players.

In fairness pretty much everyone struggles with 2nd rounders. It's a total crapshoot. And Davison was the 53rd pick, Begarin was 45th, Yam was 47th. Those picks tend to be like scratch tickets not lottery tickets, it is what it is.

I also think Brad is collecting them for a trade anyway, so it doesn't matter.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Walsh could be a pretty valuable role player. I like his energy. Plus hes 19. Kind of tough to determine his future

The key word was those, as in second rounders in general, since the Celts seem rather inept
at drafting them, than trading anyone from this particular group, which have little value, until
any of them actually prove themselves to be legitimate NBA players.

In fairness pretty much everyone struggles with 2nd rounders. It's a total crapshoot. And Davison was the 53rd pick, Begarin was 45th, Yam was 47th. Those picks tend to be like scratch tickets not lottery tickets, it is what it is.

I also think Brad is collecting them for a trade anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Right, it's a difficult task to find a solid player in the 2nd Round and Herculean to come up with someone impactful.
But then again, look at Miami. They don't even need the Draft to find hidden gems. So, there are definitely
clubs out there who are better at it, than the Cs.

So, indeed trade those Seconds...

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